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bradforster

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 24, 2022, 05:56:50 PM

So if we had Derrick Wilson at PG, we would have won?

The last four and a half minutes of that game are hard to get out of my head.  The final quarter of the second half is not exactly game tape you'd want to show young, aspiring basketball players.  Shaka said the players were so frustrated with the loss they were texting him at 3 AM the next morning.  It shows these guys do care about winning and losing and should portend great things at home on Saturday!

Elonsmusk

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 24, 2022, 04:19:13 PM
I agree that ValueAdd is just one tool among many to evaluate a player. It's certainly not the end all be all. But the difference between 2015 Carlino/Derrick and 2022 Kolek is the cast around them. If you stick with ValueAdd, Carlino and Derrick were first and second on their team. They were also the second worst 1/2 pair Marquette has had since 2002 per ValueAdd.

Conversely, Kolek is 7th on this year's team in ValueAdd. I'm sure part of that is Kolek making his teammates better in a way that ValueAdd doesn't capture well but you can't ignore his poor shooting and turnovers. He's obviously a net positive on the floor and is not close to being a net negative, but those do take away from our offensive capabilities.

You also got to remember that this is comparing a 5th and 4th year senior to a 2nd year sophman. Kolek is having a great first year at MU and will be one of our best PGs since Diener before he leaves.

All reasonable..and I think you definitely can make a case that Morsell is more important on the floor than Kolek, yet that lineup essentially would mean Kam or Stevie at PG and that diminishes Kam's value. Darryl is best at an off guard position too.

I obviously hold Kolek in very high regard. The aggressiveness he plays with puts a ton of pressure on defenses. Yes, they've adjusted some..but he's still Number 1 in the Big East in Assists and shooting 35% on his 3's. Markedly up from his brutal start to the season..

MU82

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 24, 2022, 02:02:50 PM
Shaka doesn't even agree with you as the best PG since Diener doesn't get benched for on the court match-ups and doesn't have multiple recruited PGs coming behind him

Bingo.

I like Kolek. He's had some good games and some bad games, but generally he's been solid. He's nowhere near the Nash/Diener-alike that some (including Diener IIRC) were crowing about early in the season, but he definitely belongs at this level.

But seriously, as you said, if he's Dom-level or Rowsey-level, he ain't getting benched for 12 1/2 minutes in a tight road game. And obviously not if he's Markus-level (if one considers Markus a PG, which he pretty much was.) I mean, even Junior was the perfect fit on an Elite Eight team as a senior.

It's OK for Tyler to be a good player without some making him out to be special. Maybe one day in his Marquette career, he will be special. Or maybe he'll get passed up by a kid who comes in next year or the year after. We'll see! For now, we need him to be considerably better than he was Sunday.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 24, 2022, 05:56:50 PM

So if we had Derrick Wilson at PG, we would have won?
Well except there was no need to guard Derrick from 3 pt line, Kolek yes  ;D
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Elonsmusk

Quote from: MU82 on February 24, 2022, 07:40:47 PM
Bingo.

I like Kolek. He's had some good games and some bad games, but generally he's been solid. He's nowhere near the Nash/Diener-alike that some (including Diener IIRC) were crowing about early in the season, but he definitely belongs at this level.

But seriously, as you said, if he's Dom-level or Rowsey-level, he ain't getting benched for 12 1/2 minutes in a tight road game. And obviously not if he's Markus-level (if one considers Markus a PG, which he pretty much was.) I mean, even Junior was the perfect fit on an Elite Eight team as a senior.

It's OK for Tyler to be a good player without some making him out to be special. Maybe one day in his Marquette career, he will be special. Or maybe he'll get passed up by a kid who comes in next year or the year after. We'll see! For now, we need him to be considerably better than he was Sunday.

Shaka screwed up. Coaches make mistakes. Kolek sitting on the bench the last 12 proved to be a dumb decision when the team was only able to muster 1 point in the final 5:02, a made FT. Granted JLew and OMax blew high percentage layups they created off one on one action, but still, make those and 5 points in 5 minutes is pretty poor.

MU82

Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 24, 2022, 10:46:34 PM
Shaka screwed up. Coaches make mistakes. Kolek sitting on the bench the last 12 proved to be a dumb decision when the team was only able to muster 1 point in the final 5:02, a made FT. Granted JLew and OMax blew high percentage layups they created off one on one action, but still, make those and 5 points in 5 minutes is pretty poor.

Got it. Coaches only make mistakes when Ners says they make mistakes.

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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Newsdreams

Quote from: MU82 on February 24, 2022, 11:00:05 PM
Got it. Coaches only make mistakes when Ners says they make mistakes.


Fail, should had used a whiteboard  ;D
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