OT: Mich - UW Howard Actions

[sailwi]

What seems to be lost in all of the analysis of the incident is the UW holier than thou BS. Gard said  that he called time out so the 10 second count to get over half court could be restarted.  He also said I'm not sure he (Howard) knows the rule.  Classic we play the game the"right"way.

[Markusquette]

What seems to be lost in all of the analysis of the incident is the UW holier than thou BS. Gard said  that he called time out so the 10 second count to get over half court could be restarted.  He also said I'm not sure he (Howard) knows the rule.  Classic we play the game the"right"way.

It's lost because it is not important.

[tower912]

Appropriate by Michigan.  I expect the statue for Gard to be announced soon.

[statnik]

Unless you're a crazy Madison or Michigan fan, I can't see anything but immature,  egotistical idiots on both sides. No excuses are valid on either side. Just a bad look for both UW and UofM .

I don't care what the punishment is, if there is even any. I don't expect much from the Big 14

But which side got mad at fair play being bandied about?  If Howard just accepted taking a timeout was fair game for pressing Wisconsin'a subs this wouldn't have happened.  It's also quite likely the other coaches are tired of Howard's schtick (Maryland last year, at Rutgers this year) and are secretly happy Gard's reaction led to this overreaction.

[WhiteTrash]

But which side got mad at fair play being bandied about?  If Howard just accepted taking a timeout was fair game for pressing Wisconsin'a subs this wouldn't have happened.  It's also quite likely the other coaches are tired of Howard's schtick (Maryland last year, at Rutgers this year) and are secretly happy Gard's reaction led to this overreaction.

OK, I'll play along my Badger friend. What if Gard never grabbed an opposing coach? There is no excuse for that. Gard would have flipped out if Howard grabbed him (and rightfully so). Gard was trying to escalate the situation. But both he and Howard are sophomoric idiots.

[Pakuni]

Gard shouldn't have called a timeout.
Gard shouldn't have put his hands on Howard.
Howard's actions were outrageous regardless and deserve stiff punishment.

All these things can be (and are) true.

[lawdog77]

OK, I'll play along my Badger friend. What if Gard never grabbed an opposing coach? There is no excuse for that. Gard would have flipped out if Howard grabbed him (and rightfully so). Gard was trying to escalate the situation. But both he and Howard are sophomoric idiots.

In hindsight, Gard should have not taken the timeout. He would then be able to be the one saying, I'll remember that, as well as getting the win.

Krabbenhoft should be fired.

[CountryRoads]

If Michigan loses games while Howard is suspended, will the selection committee give them a break like they did when Boeheim was suspended for 9 games?

[Uncle Rico]

If Michigan loses games while Howard is suspended, will the selection committee give them a break like they did when Boeheim was suspended for 9 games?

They can't afford to lose many more games, regardless of coach

[Osiris]

Gard shouldn't have called a timeout.
Gard shouldn't have put his hands on Howard.
Howard's actions were outrageous regardless and deserve stiff punishment.

All these things can be (and are) true.

Exactly.  This is what happens when a hot-head, poor sport encounters a notorious ass clown.  I think the suspensions were fine on the coaches end.  Can't really suspend a coach for being a dick although the matter of him initiating the contact with Howard could be debated.  However, I have no idea how Williams and Neath only get a one game suspension.  Both clearly threw multiple punches.

[avid1010]

I loved the UW AD's comments about sportsmenship and a high standard in the Big 10.  A few thoughts...

1.  Barry Alvarez and a student
2.  Bo Ryan misuse of resources for an affair
3.  Brad Davison and repeates nut punches

What Howard did was ridiculous for any adult...but the AD at UW needs to STFU.  Big 10 standards have been set at MSU with sexual assualts, at UW with Barry, Brett, and Bo, and at IU with Bobby Knight. 

Everyone lives in a glass house in D1 college bball.

[Uncle Rico]

I loved the UW AD's comments about sportsmenship and a high standard in the Big 10.  A few thoughts...

1.  Barry Alvarez and a student
2.  Bo Ryan misuse of resources for an affair
3.  Brad Davison and repeates nut punches

What Howard did was ridiculous for any adult...but the AD at UW needs to STFU.  Big 10 standards have been set at MSU with sexual assualts, at UW with Barry, Brett, and Bo, and at IU with Bobby Knight. 

Everyone lives in a glass house in D1 college bball.

I wouldn't give it much thought.  It's just jargon for the sweater vests of Madison mouth breathing Shopko Badger fans

[Pakuni]

nm

[GooooMarquette]

Gard shouldn't have called a timeout.
Gard shouldn't have put his hands on Howard.
Howard's actions were outrageous regardless and deserve stiff punishment.

All these things can be (and are) true.

Agree - and add another truth:

Krabbenhoff should not have shoved the UM players, and deserves stiff punishment

[What]

I loved the UW AD's comments about sportsmenship and a high standard in the Big 10.  A few thoughts...

1.  Barry Alvarez and a student
2.  Bo Ryan misuse of resources for an affair
3.  Brad Davison and repeates nut punches

What Howard did was ridiculous for any adult...but the AD at UW needs to STFU.  Big 10 standards have been set at MSU with sexual assualts, at UW with Barry, Brett, and Bo, and at IU with Bobby Knight. 

Everyone lives in a glass house in D1 college bball.

You are so very correct in your last statement! 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-marquette-sex-cases-20111028-story.html

Not to mention Coach Crean's oft discussed brutal treatment of staff among other things.

For every published dubious action, internet rumor, or actual Crime there are likely 4-5 more that are never revealed. 

Very sad at ALL of the universities and athletic departments that look the other way to cash flow and reputation.

[What]

Unless you're a crazy Madison or Michigan fan, I can't see anything but immature,  egotistical idiots on both sides. No excuses are valid on either side. Just a bad look for both UW and UofM .

I don't care what the punishment is, if there is even any. I don't expect much from the Big 14

Don't you find it a bit ironic that you are calling out people for being immature, yet you incorrectly call out the Big 10 name by immaturely saying Big 14, because they expanded and now have more than 10 teams?  With the same logic, shouldn't you rename the Big East conference because through expansion the name no longer reflects the geography of all of its members?

[Its DJOver]

An account registered less than an hour ago that now has two lifetime posts. That's not at all suspicious Mr. Howard.

[What]

An account registered less than an hour ago that now has two lifetime posts. That's not at all suspicious Mr. Howard.

Nope, admitted life time Badger.  Rarely ever post there and anyone for that matter.  Love reading threads and respect everyone's right to opinions and passion around home team!  Call it bad day or whatever, but the hypocrisy fired me up.  Just felt I should point it out.  Lot of great posters in every fan base along with complete blindly biased idiots in the same fan bases.

[Its DJOver]

Lol. Whatever you say

[MUDPT]

Don't you find it a bit ironic that you are calling out people for being immature, yet you incorrectly call out the Big 10 name by immaturely saying Big 14, because they expanded and now have more than 10 teams?  With the same logic, shouldn't you rename the Big East conference because through expansion the name no longer reflects the geography of all of its members?

That's not irony.

[What]

That's not irony.

Great point reaffirming my career choice of engineering and poor ACT score in English.  Which by the way would be moot now, cause fine universities no longer require ACT scores for entrance.  Just have to show you can cover tuition, I guess.

[MuggsyB]

Off the subject did anyone see the Davison/Dickinson play?  Was that another intentional nut "altercation".?

[TedBaxter]

Off the subject did anyway see the Davison/Dickinson play?  Was that another intentional nut "altercation".?

Shot to the stomach.  Don't know if it was intentional.  Might have knocked the wind out of Dickinson.

[MuggsyB]

Shot to the stomach.  Don't know if it was intentional.  Might have knocked the wind out of Dickinson.

Is it wrong to assume it was intentional?  We're talking about a dude with a litany of highly questionable "accidental" plays.

[MUDPT]

Pretty innocuous but it's him, so who knows https://mobile.twitter.com/WoodsFootball/status/1495482605688565764