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Wow. So what are your expectations to finish the season?

I'm just happy with the process. Wins don't matter.
9 (4.1%)
The success has been great, but we've been lucky. NCAA appearance is fine.
9 (4.1%)
Let's not get greedy. A win in the NCAAT will be enough.
91 (41.2%)
We'll get some post-season success. BET title or S16.
77 (34.8%)
If Shaka can go first four to final four he can surely take a 5 seed there.
12 (5.4%)
Natty or bust. As it's always been,
11 (5%)
Arby's
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Author Topic: Recalibrate your expectations  (Read 17085 times)

MU82

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #100 on: February 04, 2022, 11:24:24 PM »
Maybe, Mike, but Shaka and this team seem pretty self motivated. I think that if we bear Creighton the only difference would be a 9-3 conference record instead of 8-4.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #101 on: February 05, 2022, 07:25:43 AM »
I don’t get this whole “calibrate your expectations” thing. Given the nature of our program, the expectation every year should be NCAA tourney berth and win a game or 2. Anything more than that range is exceeding expectations, anything less than that range is falling short of expectations.

We can talk about recalibrating our expectations for the program over the long-term (for example we somehow become a blue blood a la Nova, maybe we start expecting Elite Eights or Final Fours), but recalibrating mid season simply because you didn’t necessarily see this coming is silly. This constant recalibrations (downward) of expectations is what resulted in people somehow rationalizing 7 years of general suck just 10 short months ago.

Expectations do not equal predictions.

Expectations = what do you EXPECT the program to do. This is the bar. Hit this bar or above - you’re good. Consistently fall short of this bar you’re in trouble.

Predictions = what do I think the team is capable of in any given season based upon what I know about the players, coaches, etc. Go ahead an recalibrate your predictions as much as you’d like.

Since the tournament expanded to 64 teams, Marquette has won tournament games in 1994, 1996, 2003, 2008, 2009, 2011-13.  A Shaka Smart coached team hasn’t won a tournament game since 2013.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #102 on: February 05, 2022, 07:46:48 AM »
Since the tournament expanded to 64 teams, Marquette has won tournament games in 1994, 1996, 2003, 2008, 2009, 2011-13.  A Shaka Smart coached team hasn’t won a tournament game since 2013.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #103 on: February 05, 2022, 07:58:12 AM »
Kevin: 2
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Y’all wonder why we say Buzz is the 🐐

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #104 on: February 05, 2022, 08:07:02 AM »
He’s a 🐀🐐 hybrid


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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #105 on: February 05, 2022, 08:08:17 AM »
I was expecting 16 wins this year. One more win and my expectations were wrong. Barring a Wojo like collapse my expectations were wrong.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #106 on: February 05, 2022, 08:39:29 AM »
Since the tournament expanded to 64 teams, Marquette has won tournament games in 1994, 1996, 2003, 2008, 2009, 2011-13.  A Shaka Smart coached team hasn’t won a tournament game since 2013.
And? I expect the program to make the NCAA tournament every year and win a game or two. If you’d like to lower expectations to calibrate toward the lower end of our historical scale, be my guest.

Looks to me like 2008-2013 we generally met or exceeded expectations with the rare exception.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2022, 08:47:49 AM »
And? I expect the program to make the NCAA tournament every year and win a game or two. If you’d like to lower expectations to calibrate toward the lower end of our historical scale, be my guest.

Looks to me like 2008-2013 we generally met or exceeded expectations with the rare exception.

You’re expectations aren’t reality.  Don’t feel bad.  Most college basketball fans live in a world of unrealistic expectations
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2022, 08:52:18 AM »
You’re expectations aren’t reality.  Don’t feel bad.  Most college basketball fans live in a world of unrealistic expectations
2008-2013 we met my expectations 5 of 6 years. That is reality. Then we immediately entered W*j* hell.

What are you talking about?

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #109 on: February 05, 2022, 08:56:47 AM »
2008-2013 we met my expectations 5 of 6 years. That is reality. Then we immediately entered W*j* hell.

What are you talking about?

Reality
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #110 on: February 05, 2022, 09:09:39 AM »
Reality
Saying it again doesn’t make you right. I literally just proved you wrong using statistics from your own post.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #111 on: February 05, 2022, 09:15:54 AM »
Saying it again doesn’t make you right. I literally just proved you wrong using statistics from your own post.
It’s almost as though MU didn’t have a basketball team prior to 2008.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2022, 09:16:31 AM »
Saying it again doesn’t make you right. I literally just proved you wrong using statistics from your own post.

Since 1985, Marquette has won tournament games in 8 seasons total.  Your expectations aren’t reality. 
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #113 on: February 05, 2022, 09:40:10 AM »
My expectations during crean/buzz were, at a minimum, to make the tournament each year and make a run every few years. That’s modern day Marquette basketball.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #114 on: February 05, 2022, 09:41:15 AM »
My expectations during crean/buzz were, at a minimum, to make the tournament each year and make a run every few years. That’s modern day Marquette basketball.

That’s more realistic
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #115 on: February 05, 2022, 10:42:13 AM »
It’s almost as though MU didn’t have a basketball team prior to 2008.
Ancient history. I don’t care about stats from the W Bush administration.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #116 on: February 05, 2022, 10:51:55 AM »
Ancient history. I don’t care about stats from the W Bush administration.

Those that choose to ignore history often repeat it

What should the expectations be for Butler then?  They’ve been to two national title games since then and weren’t to any before? 

What should Georgetown’s expectations be?  They haven’t been to a Sweet 16 since the W administration?

Which program should have what expectations?
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #117 on: February 05, 2022, 10:58:42 AM »
Ancient history. I don’t care about stats from the W Bush administration.

LOL, so only you get to determine when history starts to matter? 
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #118 on: February 05, 2022, 11:08:18 AM »
LOL, so only you get to determine when history starts to matter?

Marquette should probably be a tournament team year-in, year-out.  Expecting a win or two a year in the tournament?  Very few programs accomplish that
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #119 on: February 05, 2022, 11:26:52 AM »
LOL, so only you get to determine when history starts to matter?

Give Bitcher a break. His entire college experience was ruined.
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2022, 11:29:06 AM »
Give Bitcher a break. His entire college experience was ruined.
I like when you go after me due to your own insecurities about how wrong you were about nearly everything from the beginning to the end of the Wojo era.

Hauser thread is in Superbar - run along eh?

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2022, 11:30:40 AM »
Give Bitcher a break. His entire college experience was ruined.

If your college experience is ruined by the results of basketball games, you have larger issues anyway
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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #122 on: February 05, 2022, 11:31:11 AM »
I like when you go after me due to your own insecurities about how wrong you were about nearly everything from the beginning to the end of the Wojo era.

Hauser thread is in Superbar - run along eh?

Every thread is a Nojo Glory Hole thread to you, nu?

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2022, 11:33:12 AM »
If your college experience is ruined by the results of basketball games, you have larger issues anyway
I like that you take 82’s uninformed blithering as immediate fact. It says a lot about you.

He singlehandedly ruined the basketball product for the duration of my college attendance.  I doubt most of you can say the same.

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Re: Recalibrate your expectations
« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2022, 11:34:03 AM »
Ruined is hyperbolic but I would be pretty disappointed as a life long Marquette fan if my four years in college were down seasons with Wojo.