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dgies9156

I brought the Hausers up, primarily because I think there is some similarity between Joey and Dawson.

Both were outstanding high school basketball players.

Neither mastered the art of defense at a Division 1 College Level.

Both were recruited to Marquette by our former coach as highly regarded, nationally prominent recruits.

Both left Marquette for nationally prominent college basketball programs.

Both, so far, failed to reach the heights at these other programs their talent and publicity would suggest.

I hope they both do well. In Coach Shaka I trust. If Coach Shaka wants them back, bring them back. Otherwise. move on!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 28, 2022, 09:13:59 AM
I brought the Hausers up, primarily because I think there is some similarity between Joey and Dawson.

Both were outstanding high school basketball players.

Neither mastered the art of defense at a Division 1 College Level.

Both were recruited to Marquette by our former coach as highly regarded, nationally prominent recruits.

Both left Marquette for nationally prominent college basketball programs.

Both, so far, failed to reach the heights at these other programs their talent and publicity would suggest.

I hope they both do well. In Coach Shaka I trust. If Coach Shaka wants them back, bring them back. Otherwise. move on!

Save your levelheaded comments for somewhere appropriate.
"Well, we're all going to die."

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TSmith34 on January 28, 2022, 07:36:32 AM
Retiring isn't quitting? Good to know.

No. You're welcome for the new insight.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 28, 2022, 09:30:51 AM
No. You're welcome for the new insight.
It's OK. You are allowed to criticize St. Al sometimes. I think.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TSmith34 on January 28, 2022, 09:46:52 AM
It's OK. You are allowed to criticize St. Al sometimes. I think.

Lots of things to criticize Al for - and nobody who knew him  would disagree.

But to call his retiring from the coaching profession "quitting" on Marquette is childish and inaccurate.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 28, 2022, 09:56:34 AM
Lots of things to criticize Al for - and nobody who knew him  would disagree.

But to call his retiring from the coaching profession "quitting" on Marquette is childish and inaccurate.
He attempted to quit once earlier, when his deemed his pay too low, but MU held him to his contract. He did, indeed, eventually quit, but that wasn't really my point. My point is it is silly to criticize Dawson--particularly not knowing the actual circumstances-- when people, including Al, make changes all the time because it is in their best interests.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

dgies9156

Quote from: TSmith34 on January 28, 2022, 10:14:18 AM
He attempted to quit once earlier, when his deemed his pay too low, but MU held him to his contract.

Wrong.

He wanted to resign and become the Milwaukee Bucks first head coach. Father Raynor refused to release him from his contract.


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 28, 2022, 10:44:40 AM
Wrong.

He wanted to resign and become the Milwaukee Bucks first head coach. Father Raynor refused to release him from his contract.
Errr, so which part was I wrong about?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Pakuni


bradforster

I spoke with Dawson's high school coach and it is indeed a serious matter.  Some of the vitriol aimed at Dawson from members of this  forum without knowing the facts is really poor form. 

#UnleashSean

Quote from: bradforster on January 28, 2022, 12:15:29 PM
I spoke with Dawson's high school coach and it is indeed a serious matter.  Some of the vitriol aimed at Dawson from members of this  forum without knowing the facts is really poor form.

Welcome to scoop, where we attack young men for leaving Marquette.


cven7

Quote from: #UnleashKolek on January 28, 2022, 12:36:50 PM
Welcome to scoop, where we attack young men for leaving Marquette.

And young men who never left.  And young men for never coming.  And young men for getting easy rebounds.

lurch91

Quote from: #UnleashKolek on January 28, 2022, 12:36:50 PM
Welcome to scoop, where we attack young men for leaving Marquette.

Welcome to the era of basement living, mouth breathing, no pants wearing idiots with access to the inter-webs that can proclaim to know all and see all, leading to the unintelligent to believe any and all conspiracy theories.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: cven7 on January 28, 2022, 12:42:02 PM
And young men who never left.  And young men for never coming.  And young men for getting easy rebounds.

And young men who don't high five with enough enthusiasm. And young men who foul at too high a rate. And young men who speak their minds. And...
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

UNC Eagle

Don't know anything about the specifics of Dawson's situation. So can't  comment on that but wish Dawson well.

However, I will say there is a big difference between the situation Dawson was in at Marquette and what he is now in at UNC.

At a program like Marquette, where 5 star type players do not come along often, a kid like Dawson is featured and the program is built around him. 

At a program like UNC, which is loaded with 5 stars, it is very easy to become just another guy. Even when the program is not performing the way UNC currently is.  On top of that the UNC mentality is that it is a privilege to play for The Heels, be going to school in Chapel Hill, etc . They reinforce that to players all the time. So when things don't go as well as the player, and their family,  had hoped for going in; it then becomes hard for some kids to work through the obstacles.
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tower912

Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 28, 2022, 12:54:15 PM
And young men who don't high five with enough enthusiasm. And young men who foul at too high a rate. And young men who speak their minds. And...
And young men who are open about their mental health struggles.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU Fan in Connecticut

#116
Quote from: UNC Eagle on January 28, 2022, 01:11:20 PM
Don't know anything about the specifics of Dawson's situation. So can't  comment on that but wish Dawson well.

However, I will say there is a big difference between the situation Dawson was in at Marquette and what he is now in at UNC.

At a program like Marquette, where 5 star type players do not come along often, a kid like Dawson is featured and the program is built around him. 

At a program like UNC, which is loaded with 5 stars, it is very easy to become just another guy. Even when the program is not performing the way UNC currently is.  On top of that the UNC mentality is that it is a privilege to play for The Heels, be going to school in Chapel Hill, etc . They reinforce that to players all the time. So when things don't go as well as the player, and their family,  had hoped for going in; it then becomes hard for some kids to work through the obstacles.

I thought you were going to say that the difference was they get to take made-up classes at UNC and they actually have to go to class at MU.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: UNC Eagle on January 28, 2022, 01:11:20 PM
Don't know anything about the specifics of Dawson's situation. So can't  comment on that but wish Dawson well.

However, I will say there is a big difference between the situation Dawson was in at Marquette and what he is now in at UNC.

At a program like Marquette, where 5 star type players do not come along often, a kid like Dawson is featured and the program is built around him. 

At a program like UNC, which is loaded with 5 stars, it is very easy to become just another guy. Even when the program is not performing the way UNC currently is.  On top of that the UNC mentality is that it is a privilege to play for The Heels, be going to school in Chapel Hill, etc . They reinforce that to players all the time. So when things don't go as well as the player, and their family,  had hoped for going in; it then becomes hard for some kids to work through the obstacles.

I certainly don't claim to believe MU is anywhere close to the program UNC is (it isn't) but this post made me legitimately cringe.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

WhiteTrash

See below form the UNC fan board:    ::)

cmooreduck
Posted on 2 hrs, , User Since 227 months ago, User Post Count: 983
Maybe, just maybe this is one of the reasons Dawson transferred to Carolina. Sounds like the family issues have been going on for an extended period and he wanted to be at a place that embraced his needs beyond basketball. Perhaps that wasn't present at Marquette.


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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: lawdog77 on January 28, 2022, 05:22:59 AM
I thought I read somewhere that when the one time "free" transfer was implemented, it was a transfer as last resort, meaning if you were to transfer again, you have to sit out the following year, no exceptions.

that was delayed a year. But a second transfer requires a waiver.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

TheREALwrk

Quote from: lurch91 on January 28, 2022, 12:46:36 PM
Welcome to the era of basement living, mouth breathing, no pants wearing idiots with access to the inter-webs that can proclaim to know all and see all, leading to the unintelligent to believe any and all conspiracy theories.

You think there are any of those on here?


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 28, 2022, 01:29:36 PM
I certainly don't claim to believe MU is anywhere close to the program UNC is (it isn't) but this post made me legitimately cringe.
Yeah. Even if was posted with good intentions, wow...
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

BCHoopster

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 28, 2022, 01:32:01 PM
See below form the UNC fan board:    ::)

cmooreduck
Posted on 2 hrs, , User Since 227 months ago, User Post Count: 983
Maybe, just maybe this is one of the reasons Dawson transferred to Carolina. Sounds like the family issues have been going on for an extended period and he wanted to be at a place that embraced his needs beyond basketball. Perhaps that wasn't present at Marquette.

Guess they have to go to school at MU, thats an issue, vs. who knows what goes on down there, Roy did not care, hopefully Davis does.  Hope the kid finds is
way, they recruit higher level stars, but at times they all do not play together.  Lets see how Seth Trimble plays down there.  Shaka has put a system into how
his kids want to play, at NC, not sure what they are doing.  For sure, they do not play D down there.


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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: UNC Eagle on January 28, 2022, 01:11:20 PM
Don't know anything about the specifics of Dawson's situation. So can't  comment on that but wish Dawson well.

However, I will say there is a big difference between the situation Dawson was in at Marquette and what he is now in at UNC.

At a program like Marquette, where 5 star type players do not come along often, a kid like Dawson is featured and the program is built around him. 

At a program like UNC, which is loaded with 5 stars, it is very easy to become just another guy. Even when the program is not performing the way UNC currently is.  On top of that the UNC mentality is that it is a privilege to play for The Heels, be going to school in Chapel Hill, etc . They reinforce that to players all the time. So when things don't go as well as the player, and their family,  had hoped for going in; it then becomes hard for some kids to work through the obstacles.

Wow. 


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