Gregs Last Free Throw was Intentional Miss

[Herman Cain]

I suspected Greg's Second Free Throw was an intentional miss. Now we have confirmation.

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Shaka-after-MUs-73-72-win-over-Seton-Hall-180683511/

[Pakuni]

That's smart.

[tower912]

Mentioned multiple times.  Both Darryl and Coach Smart confirmed in their pressers.

[TallTitan34]

They are going to shoot a three either way so being up 1 or 2 doesn't matter. Kill some clock.

[brewcity77]

He really should've went harder on the miss. If it comes off back iron and leads to any type of scrum, it's game over.

[The Sultan]

He really should've went harder on the miss. If it comes off back iron and leads to any type of scrum, it's game over.

Did we have people on the line?

[cheebs09]

Did we have people on the line?

I believe they brought 2 up for the second free throw.

[jfp61]

Did we have people on the line?

yea jlew probably should hit it once. but he didn't want a foul there either.

It did what it was supposed to do, kill a few tenths of a second and forced them to pass from one single spot on the baseline.(even though a ref screwed that up at first)

[Pakuni]

He really should've went harder on the miss. If it comes off back iron and leads to any type of scrum, it's game over.

But that also runs the risk of missing the rim entirely.

[Goose]

Pakuni

For a guy that only hits net, intentionally hitting the rim should be quite easy.

[PointWarrior]

Would it not be more prudent to wait for Fluffy to state what actually happened?

I suspected Greg's Second Free Throw was an intentional miss. Now we have confirmation.

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Shaka-after-MUs-73-72-win-over-Seton-Hall-180683511/

[The Sultan]

Would it not be more prudent to wait for Fluffy to state what actually happened?

You shouldn't let me bother you so much.

[brewcity77]

But that also runs the risk of missing the rim entirely.

Sure, but then you give them the ball, which was what happened anyway.

[1SE]

He really should've went harder on the miss. If it comes off back iron and leads to any type of scrum, it's game over.

Absolutely not right? Can't have any chance of a foul during the scrum. Miss abd make then convert from 90ft with 1 5 seconds.

[avid1010]

I can't agree with the intentional miss, but I seem to be in the minority, and obviously would conceed to Shaka and staff.  That said...Maybe if SH didn't have any TO's, but they had 2.  I think a few things could happen when you call for the intentional miss...
1.  You give the refs a chance to call a foul on the FT rebound.
2.  You give the refs a chance to call a foul on the inbounds play.
3.  You give SH a chance at a full court pass and Laetner type shot.
4.  You give SH a chance to through it across half court, call their last TO, and then get a make or foul going to the rim.

I'm not sure what you gain off the miss.  If they didn't have any TO's...makes perfect sense.

[Uncle Rico]

I can't agree with the intentional miss, but I seem to be in the minority, and obviously would conceed to Shaka and staff.  That said...Maybe if SH didn't have any TO's, but they had 2.  I think a few things could happen when you call for the intentional miss...
1.  You give the refs a chance to call a foul on the FT rebound.
2.  You give the refs a chance to call a foul on the inbounds play.
3.  You give SH a chance at a full court pass and Laetner type shot.
4.  You give SH a chance to through it across half court, call their last TO, and then get a make or foul going to the rim.

I'm not sure what you gain off the miss.  If they didn't have any TO's...makes perfect sense.

I'm in the make the shot crowd, especially with the officiating today.  Win some, lose some

[The Sultan]

Missing the shot means SH can't run the baseline after the TO. Kur just standing there means there aren't a lot of options. That was the problem with the Laetner shot 

[GOO]

Probably doesn't matter much either way. But with no time outs, I try to make the free throw. Agree that there are a lot of ways MU could foul and then loose.

[MU82]

I'm glad to hear it was an intentional miss because that was the smart move. Any tenths of a second that can come off the clock, the better.

For a guy that only hits net, intentionally hitting the rim should be quite easy.

Did Elliott steal your lunch money, Goose?

[StillWarriors]

Missing the shot means SH can't run the baseline after the TO. Kur just standing there means there aren't a lot of options. That was the problem with the Laetner shot

To me, this was the key benefit. Hall had timeouts left so the time was less of a factor than had they been forced into a live ball situation with no TOs coming off a miss.

[mileskishnish72]

He really should've went harder on the miss. If it comes off back iron and leads to any type of scrum, it's game over.

I know guys have said we have to practice FT's. Now we have to practice how to miss them?

[MU82]

I know guys have said we have to practice FT's. Now we have to practice how to miss them?

Every coach worth a damn has his or her team practice it, because there are at least two important situations in which a FT miss is beneficial.

The situation today was one. And obviously the other is if you're down a bucket with only 1 FT to go, you need to miss intentionally so you can go for the rebound and then score.

At higher levels, I have seen coaches work not only on missing FTs but missing a certain way to increase the likelihood of a favorable outcome.

Good coaches are prepared for every possible situation that can happen in a game.

[panda]

I know guys have said we have to practice FT's. Now we have to practice how to miss them?

It's not hard - take your normal set up and move to the right or left a bit. Normal shot and it will be a miss more times than not.

[MUfan12]

I can't agree with the intentional miss, but I seem to be in the minority, and obviously would conceed to Shaka and staff.  That said...Maybe if SH didn't have any TO's, but they had 2.  I think a few things could happen when you call for the intentional miss...
1.  You give the refs a chance to call a foul on the FT rebound.
2.  You give the refs a chance to call a foul on the inbounds play.
3.  You give SH a chance at a full court pass and Laetner type shot.
4.  You give SH a chance to through it across half court, call their last TO, and then get a make or foul going to the rim.

I'm not sure what you gain off the miss.  If they didn't have any TO's...makes perfect sense.

This right here.

[mug644]

If he had made the free throw, and Seton Hall called a timeout, they would've been able to run the baseline AFTER the timeout? I presume that the timeout would eliminate that 'live ball' action.

Knowing they had timeouts remaining and would use them, I can't see how the tenths of a second burnt by missing a shot (and risking the fouling that we could have done), was worth it.

Another angle is that, if badness had happened and MU fouled someone, I'd rather be up 2 points than one.

I'm 100% on the Shaka bandwagon, but that strikes me as over-coaching. Or at least over-managing the game. Trying to make up for the other day?