Darryl Morsell and Kur Kuath

[Elonsmusk]

Don't make the mistake of confusing vision with a lack of patience. It's a mistake many make.

I'll do you one better:  Don't make the mistake of preaching patience due to a lack of intuition and common sense.  It's a mistake many make.  Slow to hire, fast to fire is a truthism for a reason.

https://hbr.org/2014/03/hire-slow-fire-fast

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2020/04/14/hire-slow-and-fire-fast-why-leaders-should-heed-this-advice/?sh=6f289cc5573c

[Galway Eagle]

I'll do you one better:  Don't make the mistake of preaching patience due to a lack of intuition and common sense.  It's a mistake many make.  Slow to hire, fast to fire is a truthism for a reason.

https://hbr.org/2014/03/hire-slow-fire-fast

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2020/04/14/hire-slow-and-fire-fast-why-leaders-should-heed-this-advice/?sh=6f289cc5573c

So you were lying when you said:

You can have the last word, but you'll still be wrong on this one. 

[Elonsmusk]

So you were lying when you said:

Ooh.  Good one Galway.  You got me.  Note what I quoted.  The topic was the empty cupboard...inviting TAMU to have the last word on that.  He didn't, but instead chose to delve into philosophy. 

[The Sultan]

So you were lying when you said:

Are you new here?  😉

[wadesworld]

The seven top 100 players Wojo inherited were Deonte Burton (moved on and had a very good career at ISU, definitely talent that Wojo was left with, but talent that left when his mom passed away), Duane Wilson, Luke Fischer, JaJuan Johnson, Juan Anderson, (4 role players at the high major level, one not available until mid season that year), Steve Taylor, Sandy Cohen (not even role players at the high major level).

Of the seven, the one good one transferred away due to personal reasons, one transferred laterally (though to a lesser program and 3 years later), and two transferred down.  In the 26 seasons playing in high major conferences, there was a total of one single All Conference award between all seven of these players (Second Team All Big Twelve).

I hope you're lambasting Boeheim for not having top 75 recruit Symir Torrence playing at an All American level.

[brewcity77]

The topic was the empty cupboard...

You're like Pavlov's Dog. If you went into a cooking thread and someone said "I was going to make pizza, but I was out of flour, complete empty cupboard" or into the "What are you watching" thread and someone said "Really enjoying Dawson's Creek, his friendship with Pacey is magical" you would spiral those threads on your pet tangents.

No one else cares anymore. They are just trolling you. This is obvious because these discussions only come up when you're involved. You can be a useful, productive poster here, but not if you continue to let near-decade old grudges dominate your Scoop existence.

[Galway Eagle]

You're like Pavlov's Dog. If you went into a cooking thread and someone said "I was going to make pizza, but I was out of flour, complete empty cupboard" or into the "What are you watching" thread and someone said "Really enjoying Dawson's Creek, his friendship with Pacey is magical" you would spiral those threads on your pet tangents.

No one else cares anymore. They are just trolling you. This is obvious because these discussions only come up when you're involved. You can be a useful, productive poster here, but not if you continue to let near-decade old grudges dominate your Scoop existence.

Wow spoilers!

[willie warrior]

Yeah, Shaka knows howta run a program. Quite refreshin' after 7 years of Numb Nuts, aina?

Good one. Numbnuts refernce to Wojo-Dukiet. Classic. Rico would disagree however, as would Tower.

[willie warrior]

100% fiction.  Wojo couldn't coach. Period.  He was clueless.  Year 1 illustrated that to me real fast given what he did inherit.  7 Top 100 kids, perhaps more on one roster than at any other time since the era of Al. 

The cupboard bare excuse was used here for a long time to try to justify Wojo's lack of coaching acumen. 

Shaka runs circles around Wojo in every metric you have for a head coach:

In game coaching
Strategy/Vision
Buy in/respect from players
Roster management/composition
Charisma
Intellect
Recruiting
Intangibles

Attire?

[NCMUFan]

Attire?

Sheldon would give a thumbs up.

[Lennys Tap]

Attire?

That and lunch time basketball.

[GoldenEagles03]

One thing they are equal to:
Getting fired from their last job!   

Shaka wasn't fired at Texas.

People can say he was on his way out all they want but that's just an excuse at this point. He made the decision to come to Milwaukee.

Also, Beard has 0 signature wins to this point at Texas.

[mu.n8ball]

Also, Beard has 0 signature wins to this point at Texas.

I saw this attached graphic on Twitter and felt it related to your point.

[cheebs09]

I saw this attached graphic on Twitter and felt it related to your point.

On their undefeated streak, I think Iowa State was also in the very low left. Their schedule has gotten tougher and losses have come. Although, they recently beat a ranked Texas Tech team.

[NCMUFan]

Shaka wasn't fired at Texas.

People can say he was on his way out all they want but that's just an excuse at this point. He made the decision to come to Milwaukee.

Also, Beard has 0 signature wins to this point at Texas.

Correct me if I am wrong.
Was Shaka given an ultimatum to fire his coaching staff if he wanted to coach the next season at Texas?
Hypothetical question.  If that was the ultimatum, would Shaka throw his staff under the bus or would he have fall on the sword?
As much as again we put down Wojo, my guess Wojo would have said it is him and his coaching staff and fallen on the sword.

[The Sultan]

Correct me if I am wrong.
Was Shaka given an ultimatum to fire his coaching staff if he wanted to coach the next season at Texas?
Hypothetical question.  If that was the ultimatum, would Shaka throw his staff under the bus or would he have fall on the sword?
As much as again we put down Wojo, my guess Wojo would have said it is him and his coaching staff and fallen on the sword.

Didn't Scholl tell Wojo that he needed to make some changes or he would be fired?  And when he refused, he was let go?

[NCMUFan]

It may be correct.
What do you think?  Character revealed?

[Galway Eagle]

This is classic two sides of every coin. Some perspective would be "he's a stubborn fouls who couldn't see that he couldn't get it done" another perspective would be "he was loyal to his staff and wasn't going to make any of them be the fall guy"

It's a business, I commend his character for the later perspective but it doesn't get you far in any business where you aren't hitting results.

[NCMUFan]

Yes, when you get to that point, you are under a microscope and walking on eggshells.
Never a good situation.
Time to start looking at new horizons.

[PJDunn]

Probably some advice that Tom Crean is receiving right about now...

[Newsdreams]

Probably some advice that Tom Crean is receiving right about now...

Crean sucks, in before 4ever

[brewcity77]

Didn't Scholl tell Wojo that he needed to make some changes or he would be fired?  And when he refused, he was let go?

Yes, and he already had an open spot with Killings gone. Honestly, I think Wojo lost his job for Jake Presutti.

[MU82]

Yes, and he already had an open spot with Killings gone. Honestly, I think Wojo lost his job for Jake Presutti.

Well then ... thank you Jake Presutti!

[NCMUFan]

Wojo is probably saying that also. 

[CountryRoads]

I find it hard to believe that Wojo was given an ultimatum regarding the assistant coaches. I feel that was more of the story to save face, even though it was reported by some reputable sources at the time. If he was given the ultimatum, then I'd really question the competence of Scholl. Wojo would be understandably pissed at the admin the rest of his tenure and would leave at the first chance. It would only make sense to rip the bandaid off and start over in that situation, imo.