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bilsu

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 02, 2022, 07:39:05 AM
When you are trying to build a culture as Shaka said, do you really want to become dependent on the new one and done designer drug?  That's quite a message to returning players who put in the work only to be recruited over every year.

So to answer your question, yes.
I think coaches are always trying to recruit players better than their current roster.

GoldenEagles03

Marquette Basketball just posted on IG of a workout this morning and I'll say this...these guys look built.

The concerns some on here have of being to small or weak might not be as big of a problem as you once thought. These guys have all clearly developed physically from where they once were.
VIOLENCE!

JTJ3

Yeah it sure looks like Shaka is pushing more of a Buzz style summer program, pretty noticeable gains on the returning guys.

Jay Bee

Good thing we've got LIU on the schedule!
The portal is NOT closed.

bilsu

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 02, 2022, 12:49:28 PM
Marquette Basketball just posted on IG of a workout this morning and I'll say this...these guys look built.

The concerns some on here have of being to small or weak might not be as big of a problem as you once thought. These guys have all clearly developed physically from where they once were.
We did not look weak last year until we got into the Big East. It is hard to compare players strength until you see them on the floor with other power 6 teams.

PointWarrior

crap - not in Rothstein's Top 45?  Might as well cancel the season.  Or maybe wait until Value Add and Kenpom confirm this.




Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on June 02, 2022, 02:02:15 AM
Marquette no longer in Jon Rothstein's Top 45. Disappointing. Optimistically MU can make the Big Dance yet but realistically MU has lost more than MU has gained. Frustrating.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: PointWarrior on June 03, 2022, 10:56:05 AM
crap - not in Rothstein's Top 45?  Might as well cancel the season.  Or maybe wait until Value Add and Kenpom confirm this.

Can't wait to see where KenPom pre-season has them.  Always a good indicator of what to expect and what will need to happen for them to be a top team.  It's why head coaches use KenPom among other reasons.
Guster is for Lovers

jfp61

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 03, 2022, 12:43:12 PM
Can't wait to see where KenPom pre-season has them.  Always a good indicator of what to expect and what will need to happen for them to be a top team.  It's why head coaches use KenPom among other reasons.

Hoops Explorer has Marquette 48th. (more defense focused)

Bartorvik has Marquette 62nd. (more offense focused)


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

bilsu

Quote from: jfp61 on June 03, 2022, 12:51:12 PM
Hoops Explorer has Marquette 48th. (more defense focused)

Bartorvik has Marquette 62nd. (more offense focused)
With Lewis I felt the best we would do would be one and done again.
Without Lewis this is still the best we will do. We just have less chance to get a bid to lose in first round without Lewis.

GoldenEagles03

VIOLENCE!

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Keeyan Itejere is huge. He did some incredible work during his Redshirt season. Good for him.

He'll need to careful to not hit his head on the rim.  Easy hops for that young man. 

JakeBarnes

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Keeyan Itejere is huge. He did some incredible work during his Redshirt season. Good for him.

That is some insane athleticism. 😳 :-[
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

tower912

Keeyan's athleticism has been described by MU players and coaches in much the same way as Gold's athleticism.   Keeyan as a decathlete.   Gold as a great rugby player or possible track olympian before. he grew to 6'10.   
The question isn't speed or athleticism.  The question is whether they can hold their own down low and rebound.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: tower912 on June 03, 2022, 05:18:28 PM
Keeyan's athleticism has been described by MU players and coaches in much the same way as Gold's athleticism.   Keeyan as a decathlete.   Gold as a great rugby player or possible track olympian before. he grew to 6'10.   
The question isn't speed or athleticism.  The question is whether they can hold their own down low and rebound.

No question about that Tower.  Skilled basketball players who can get the job done are needed first and foremost.  But off the chart athleticism can't hurt. 

tower912

Agreed.  Off the charts athleticism is a great building block.   But they will have to guard 6'11, 250.   Conversely, if MU is able to rebound and push tempo, 6'11, 250 will have to try to keep up with their sprint up the floor.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on June 03, 2022, 05:18:28 PM
Keeyan's athleticism has been described by MU players and coaches in much the same way as Gold's athleticism.   Keeyan as a decathlete.   Gold as a great rugby player or possible track olympian before. he grew to 6'10.   
The question isn't speed or athleticism.  The question is whether they can hold their own down low and rebound.
I think the expectations for a player who has spent a  year training in  a high major program should be different than for one who has reportedly ( according to coach Smith) played very limited games due to Covid that last two years. The baseline athletics can only help ease the transition. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: bilsu on June 03, 2022, 02:18:41 PM
With Lewis I felt the best we would do would be one and done again.
Without Lewis this is still the best we will do. We just have less chance to get a bid to lose in first round without Lewis.

This doesn't make much sense.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: tower912 on June 03, 2022, 05:46:06 PM
Agreed.  Off the charts athleticism is a great building block.   But they will have to guard 6'11, 250.   Conversely, if MU is able to rebound and push tempo, 6'11, 250 will have to try to keep up with their sprint up the floor.

I'm far too lazy to look at the rosters of team's we'll be playing but are we really going to face many 6'11, 250:guys?

tower912

I assume so.  But I don't know for certain.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2022, 06:01:47 PM
This doesn't make much sense.

If you say it in Eeyore's voice, it starts becoming more clear.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

bilsu

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2022, 06:01:47 PM
This doesn't make much sense.
Sure it does. With or without Lewis in my opinion the best MU could do this coming season is a first round NCAA loss.

The only difference Lewis would of made was increasing our chance to make the tournament. 

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: bilsu on June 03, 2022, 10:06:33 PM
Sure it does. With or without Lewis in my opinion the best MU could do this coming season is a first round NCAA loss.

The only difference Lewis would of made was increasing our chance to make the tournament.

It is quite literally impossible to speculate how far they could go in an NCAA tournament on June 3rd. We don't even know what we have yet.

I think it's quite likely they are in the 5-7 range again with a shot at a bid due to the fact that they return everyone they were supposed to. Development and retention are real and Shaka develops.
VIOLENCE!

wadesworld

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on June 03, 2022, 10:48:31 PM
It is quite literally impossible to speculate how far they could go in an NCAA tournament on June 3rd. We don't even know what we have yet.

I think it's quite likely they are in the 5-7 range again with a shot at a bid due to the fact that they return everyone they were supposed to. Development and retention are real and Shaka develops.

Definitely not literally impossible to speculate how far the team can go in the NCAA Tournament.

genious expert

#399
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 03, 2022, 06:04:09 PM
I'm far too lazy to look at the rosters of team's we'll be playing but are we really going to face many 6'11, 250:guys?

NM Brewcity did the research in the next post

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