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Author Topic: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??  (Read 15731 times)

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2021, 04:59:32 PM »
Post below is from more than 2 years ago… lol, forgot they touted their “8th ranked 2039 class” long before many top recruits had committed.

Unfortunately, I was right on Johnny Davis.

Ps - 247 ultimately ranked their 2030 group #34

That was some b.s.. silly nonsense. Now, can guys from MN like Crowl and Carlson work in the uw-madison extension system? Sure.. plug n play nh.

Johnny Davis can be very very good.. his brother is there only because of him.

It's an OK class *for them*.. maybe top 30-35 nationally when all is said and done. Lots of mid-tier guys. Congrats!

That "8th ranked" is like saying, "we're the top team in the NCAA tourney" when you just won the First Four game of the tournament
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2021, 05:42:32 PM »
Lenny

While I think the MU-UW has lost some luster over the years, it is still a very big game at our house. I learned at a very young age to hate Bucky and I still feel the same way today. The guys that played when you were at MU still hate UW and I love that. I hope the boys get it done and build off it. It would be a great road W for the team.

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2021, 05:54:11 PM »
Hate to say it but I don’t see us matching up with the Badgers. They look really good and Davis is a massive problem.
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2021, 05:59:05 PM »
UConn and UW are terrible matchups for us.
Even though we’ve been told they are bottom 1/2 of Big ten team and the recent success they have had was due to Bo, not Gard.
If we don’t rebound……..
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2021, 10:45:36 PM »
UConn and UW are terrible matchups for us.
Even though we’ve been told they are bottom 1/2 of Big ten team and the recent success they have had was due to Bo, not Gard.
If we don’t rebound……..

UW isn’t going to be world beaters this year. They have less talent than previous years but still play good team basketball. They will only be as good as Davis can make them.  They are a low ceiling/high floor kind of team. They had a good run at Maui but if you look at their best opponent Houston was horrible in the first half. UW got destroyed in the second half but UH failed to get a shot off to tie or win the game.

UW might be in the top half only because the Big Ten will be down this year.

The game will come down to whether MU can make consistent baskets on the road as this is their first true road game.  I think we are a worse matchup for UW than they are against us but it will come down to MU’s offense hitting shots.

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2021, 10:47:07 PM »
UW isn’t going to be world beaters this year. They have less talent than previous years but still play good team basketball. They will only be as good as Davis can make them.  They are a low ceiling/high floor kind of team. They had a good run at Maui but if you look at their best opponent Houston was horrible in the first half. UW got destroyed in the second half but UH failed to get a shot off to tie or win the game.

UW might be in the top half only because the Big Ten will be down this year.

The game will come down to whether MU can make consistent baskets on the road as this is their first true road game.  I think we are a worse matchup for UW than they are against us but it will come down to MU’s offense hitting shots.

I agree with this analysis.
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2021, 11:17:03 PM »
UW isn’t going to be world beaters this year. They have less talent than previous years but still play good team basketball. They will only be as good as Davis can make them.  They are a low ceiling/high floor kind of team. They had a good run at Maui but if you look at their best opponent Houston was horrible in the first half. UW got destroyed in the second half but UH failed to get a shot off to tie or win the game.

UW might be in the top half only because the Big Ten will be down this year.

The game will come down to whether MU can make consistent baskets on the road as this is their first true road game.  I think we are a worse matchup for UW than they are against us but it will come down to MU’s offense hitting shots.

I agree for the most part but generally they don't beat themselves and they appear to be a pretty decent rebounding team.  We should get plenty of open shots and our guards absolutely need to step-up.  I also have some concern that Morsell will have to guard Davis.

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2021, 11:20:22 PM »
I agree for the most part but generally they don't beat themselves and they appear to be a pretty decent rebounding team.  We should get plenty of open shots and our guards absolutely need to step-up.  I also have some concern that Morsell will have to guard Davis.

Concern? That’s why we got Morsell - aka The Man Who Stopped Markus - to take on the opponent’s best player.
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2021, 11:32:42 PM »
This is the weakest badger team in a long time, imo. They won the weakest Maui field in history. We’re also really young. It’s also our first true road game of the year. It’ll be a battle but I expect a close game one way or the other. I expect the badgers to finish bottom half in the conference.

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2021, 11:59:21 PM »
Concern? That’s why we got Morsell - aka The Man Who Stopped Markus - to take on the opponent’s best player.

My concern is twofold:  1) Do we play three guards most of the game and 2) I don't want him in foul trouble. 

I think we need a good offensive game from Morsell.  If he and Davis cancel each other out I think we'll  be in good shape.  But I'm talking at least 18 points for DM, it's critical he finds his game.  This also may be a great opportunity for Kam to go off a la West Virginia. 

I just watched the Rowsey game at the Kohl hole.  Man.....that dude had some serious swagger.  And unlimited range.  When I'm really down I watch the  bam, bam, bam, sequence vs Creighton.   Anyway he absolutely shredded the weasel/rodents in the 2nd half.  They had no answer to that tommy-gun attack and looked quite frustrated.  :)

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2021, 07:10:01 AM »
I agree for the most part but generally they don't beat themselves and they appear to be a pretty decent rebounding team.  We should get plenty of open shots and our guards absolutely need to step-up.  I also have some concern that Morsell will have to guard Davis.

Let's take out any scenario where someone goes off like Rex Chapman did against the 1996 Bulls which throws the game analysis out the window.

UW is not a good 3Pt shooting team (knock on wood) as the currently sit at 28.8%.   Their best shooter is Johnny Davis.

UW as a team has a negative assist to turnover ratio which is unheard of for UW.  They don't have a lot of turnovers but that just shows their lack of assists.  Again knock on wood.  This is also very unUW like.  Their leader in assists is Johnny Davis at 2.2 per game.

Rebounding is a misleading stat on its own because someone has to miss a basket in order to get a rebound.  If one team is shooting the lights out their offense rebounding number in aggregate is going to be low.  If the other team is brick city, they will likely get a few extra offensive rebounds.  A defensive rebound is relatively meaningless if 1.  you make your shots 2. you stop them on the other end.  UWs leading rebounder Johnny Davis.

It appears that UW is a good defensive team as they average 12 more points than their opponents but that is mostly one game again GB. 

Again barring anyone player other than Johnny Davis (he will get his) going off it is going to whether MU makes shots or not. My biggest concern with this game is it is our first true road game which typically causes shots not to fall. 




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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2021, 09:02:22 AM »
Morsell needs to lock up Davis. MU needs to make shots.  MU needs to rebound so Crowl and Wahl don't get easy offense on second chances.

X-factor:  MU forces UW's freshman PG into turnovers.

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« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2021, 09:05:19 AM »
Let's take out any scenario where someone goes off like Rex Chapman did against the 1996 Bulls which throws the game analysis out the window.

UW is not a good 3Pt shooting team (knock on wood) as the currently sit at 28.8%.   Their best shooter is Johnny Davis.

UW as a team has a negative assist to turnover ratio which is unheard of for UW.  They don't have a lot of turnovers but that just shows their lack of assists.  Again knock on wood.  This is also very unUW like.  Their leader in assists is Johnny Davis at 2.2 per game.

Rebounding is a misleading stat on its own because someone has to miss a basket in order to get a rebound.  If one team is shooting the lights out their offense rebounding number in aggregate is going to be low.  If the other team is brick city, they will likely get a few extra offensive rebounds.  A defensive rebound is relatively meaningless if 1.  you make your shots 2. you stop them on the other end.  UWs leading rebounder Johnny Davis.

It appears that UW is a good defensive team as they average 12 more points than their opponents but that is mostly one game again GB. 

Again barring anyone player other than Johnny Davis (he will get his) going off it is going to whether MU makes shots or not. My biggest concern with this game is it is our first true road game which typically causes shots not to fall.

Sounds like we need somebody to take care of Davis ... if you catch my drift.
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2021, 10:02:58 AM »
MU will be sizable underdogs and deservedly so.

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« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2021, 10:08:50 AM »
Not to mention this being MU's first true road game.
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2021, 10:15:16 AM »
MU will be sizable underdogs and deservedly so.

Not to mention this being MU's first true road game.

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« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2021, 10:37:28 AM »
It doesn't.   
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« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2021, 11:16:43 AM »
F the Effing rodents
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2021, 12:47:52 PM »
I get this rodent hate and all, but I just can't get emotional about a rabies carrying rodent.

We were 4-0 against the rodents in my time at MU. They were just too bad to hate.

I think that time is coming again!

As for everybody relax. I never saw so much negativism toward our guys. Never forget, Wojo has left the building.

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2021, 01:27:46 PM »
I just watched the Rowsey game at the Kohl hole.  Man.....that dude had some serious swagger.  And unlimited range.  When I'm really down I watch the  bam, bam, bam, sequence vs Creighton.   Anyway he absolutely shredded the weasel/rodents in the 2nd half.  They had no answer to that tommy-gun attack and looked quite frustrated.  :)

I was at both of them and they were two of my favorite games of the Wojo era. The badgers sucked that year but it was so fun to watch that complete ass kicking.

It’s an absolute travesty that wojo failed to get that team to the tournament.
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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2021, 01:30:56 PM »
Sounds like we need somebody to take care of Davis ... if you catch my drift.

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2021, 01:33:23 PM »
The day of the Rowsey game I called a big rout W for MU. I am predicting MU wins by 10+ on Saturday. I think Shaka finds a way to control the tempo and we will convert on quick transaction baskets early. I am going with the Shaka factor being the difference in this game. He has won over a lot of fans this far and spanking Bucky would be a great signature W in his first season. Again, Warriors by double figures on Saturday.

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« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2021, 01:40:23 PM »
I was at both of them and they were two of my favorite games of the Wojo era. The badgers sucked that year but it was so fun to watch that complete ass kicking.

It’s an absolute travesty that wojo failed to get that team to the tournament.

It's interesting you mention that.  Obviously Howard and Rowsey's skillsets overlapped and both were defensive liabilities.  That said we had three of the very best pure shooters in the country imo.  We should have gotten the right players around them.  If we had two 6'6 guys that could have done the dirty work that would have probably been enough for them to be a real threat. 
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« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2021, 01:48:38 PM »
The day of the Rowsey game I called a big rout W for MU. I am predicting MU wins by 10+ on Saturday. I think Shaka finds a way to control the tempo and we will convert on quick transaction baskets early. I am going with the Shaka factor being the difference in this game. He has won over a lot of fans this far and spanking Bucky would be a great signature W in his first season. Again, Warriors by double figures on Saturday.

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Re: Weasel/Rodent Analysis??
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2021, 02:09:36 PM »
The day of the Rowsey game I called a big rout W for MU. I am predicting MU wins by 10+ on Saturday. I think Shaka finds a way to control the tempo and we will convert on quick transaction baskets early. I am going with the Shaka factor being the difference in this game. He has won over a lot of fans this far and spanking Bucky would be a great signature W in his first season. Again, Warriors by double figures on Saturday.

I don't think Shaka had to "win over" many fans. Most were very grateful he had been hired.

This, and the next 2 non-con games after it, will be a nice test for him and his team.

And I'm with you on us winning. Time for Morsell to get off the schneid, for Kolek to control the game, for one (or more) of our frosh to step up, for Lewis to do his thing, for Greg to hit a few 3s, and for us to pull off our best win of the season.
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