Rebounding

[Boone]

We're playing with fire. Rebounding HAS to be addressed this spring with a transfer big.

[mileskishnish72]

When Fluff has educated y'all on the ball call he will teach everyone a rebounding lesson at 5:00pm CST.

Score one for the Goose.

[SaveOD238]

Add in team strategy to have fast transitions, so guys turning and heading up court quickly.

The defensive strategy of going for blocks also contributes to guys being out of position for rebounds

[jfp61]

Yep, if our 4's arn't rebounding, we wont get them. Omax played poorly, might have been hurt. JLew was the only rebounder on the court. Need to do better 1-4 crashing a little more.

[MuggsyB]

We're playing with fire. Rebounding HAS to be addressed this spring with a transfer big.

Agreed.

[jesmu84]

We can have transition points or rebounds.

Which do you want?

[Boone]

being better than -21 on the glass isn't too much to ask for

[PJDunn]

How about wins? Shaka laka!

[Goose]

Boone

Rebounding is a major concern and we are getting well into this season and not much improvement. If they end up having a down stretch it likely will be due to lack of rebounding. They have dodged some bullets and need to start grabbing the basketball.

[Boone]

for sure, Goose. It's going to cost us if not tightened up. That said, HUGE win. Gotta love Morsell

[Goose]

Boone

It was a very nice win and more to come. This team can hold its own against most any team out there. Far from a perfect team, but the guys are buying into the system which helps a great deal.

[rocket surgeon]

i may be wrong here(fee-fee will correct) but we seem to be pretty good in close games.  we are a tenacious bunch with a little bit of ice water in the veins.

[cheebs09]

It always feels like other teams are going over our backs, so I'm not sure if that means we aren't doing a good job boxing out. Not saying fouls should be called, just it feels like we are in the right spots, but not establishing position.  It also doesn't help that I don't think Kuath has the best hands, so it keeps a lot of balls alive.

[Pakuni]

We can have transition points or rebounds.

Which do you want?

Is there any data to support this?
Like are good rebounding teams typically poor in transition? Are teams that score a lot in transition often statistically poor in rebounding?

[BCHoopster]

All three bigs are not strong enough yet to rebound.  Kuath is normally out of position as he try's to block everything which Leaves Prosper or a skinny guard, neither are strong and Lewis does not really want to rebound. Prosper today was brutal and Elliott was awful till the end.  Kolek as well.  To win with those guys giving nothing offensively is impressive

[wadesworld]

All three bigs are not strong enough yet to rebound.  Kuath is normally out of position as he try's to block everything which Leaves Prosper or a skinny guard, neither are strong and Lewis does not really want to rebound. Prosper today was brutal and Elliott was awful till the end.  Kolek as well.  To win with those guys giving nothing offensively is impressive

The guy who's 4th in the Big East in rebounding "does not really want to rebound?" Lol. Back to getting only the easy rebounds, I guess.

[jesmu84]

Is there any data to support this?
Like are good rebounding teams typically poor in transition? Are teams that score a lot in transition often statistically poor in rebounding?

I have no idea on data. I also have no idea the answers to your questions.

I was responding to folks above who seem to believe lack of rebounding is due to guys running down the court before the rebound is secured. To me, that indicates emphasis on the transition offense over keeping guys back to secure a rebound. In that scenario, it would seem you'd have to pick one or another.

[We R Final Four]

I've seen OMP several times a game watch the shot while his guy slides in front of him for the rebound.....often times the put back....and sometimes the and one.
Drives me crazy.

[brewcity77]

Is there any data to support this?
Like are good rebounding teams typically poor in transition? Are teams that score a lot in transition often statistically poor in rebounding?

I made this argument in a group chat, but Andrei from Paint Touches checked the data and there's nothing to support it. There was actually a small correlation that rebounding might help transition scoring, but I don't believe it was statistically significant. I believe there's a Twitter thread on it.

[Uncle Rico]

I made this argument in a group chat, but Andrei from Paint Touches checked the data and there's nothing to support it. There was actually a small correlation that rebounding might help transition scoring, but I don't believe it was statistically significant. I believe there's a Twitter thread on it.

Thanks for that.  My thinking was it might be a philosophical choice by the staff

[BCHoopster]

The guy who's 4th in the Big East in rebounding "does not really want to rebound?" Lol. Back to getting only the easy rebounds, I guess.

Ok not to disagree with stats but Lewis has not learned how to block out, he should be better

[MU82]

Thanks for that.  My thinking was it might be a philosophical choice by the staff

Shaka wasn't mic'd up today so I don't know if he said it again, but when he was mic'd up Tuesday, he stressed quite forcefully: "All 5 to the boards! All 5!"

Now, I don't know if that's only his philosophy sometimes, but I'm guessing it's not. Every player on the floor has to find a man, put a body on him and go get the ball.

A couple other Scoopers talked about our need for a big so we can rebound better next season ... but if 3 or 4 guys on the floor either forget to box out or have poor fundamentals trying, it won't help much.

[jesmu84]

I made this argument in a group chat, but Andrei from Paint Touches checked the data and there's nothing to support it. There was actually a small correlation that rebounding might help transition scoring, but I don't believe it was statistically significant. I believe there's a Twitter thread on it.

Thanks for verifying

I guess we can have our cake and eat it too

[Uncle Rico]

Shaka wasn't mic'd up today so I don't know if he said it again, but when he was mic'd up Tuesday, he stressed quite forcefully: "All 5 to the boards! All 5!"

Now, I don't know if that's only his philosophy sometimes, but I'm guessing it's not. Every player on the floor has to find a man, put a body on him and go get the ball.

A couple other Scoopers talked about our need for a big so we can rebound better next season ... but if 3 or 4 guys on the floor either forget to box out or have poor fundamentals trying, it won't help much.

I listened to the game on the radio

[Pakuni]

Shaka wasn't mic'd up today so I don't know if he said it again, but when he was mic'd up Tuesday, he stressed quite forcefully: "All 5 to the boards! All 5!"

Now, I don't know if that's only his philosophy sometimes, but I'm guessing it's not. Every player on the floor has to find a man, put a body on him and go get the ball.

A couple other Scoopers talked about our need for a big so we can rebound better next season ... but if 3 or 4 guys on the floor either forget to box out or have poor fundamentals trying, it won't help much.

Nothing to support this but my eyeballs, but it seems we lose a maddening number of rebounds just by not grabbing the ball strongly with two hands. Not sure what can be done about that.