Pig SIUE

[Jockey]

Good to be 1-0 with Shaka. Lotta work, lotta potential.

Stevie good be really good. I see the potential with Kam and OMP.

Love Kolek.

2 things that must happen to make us remotely competitive

1. Stop taking pull up 3s off TOs. We can't shoot good. So don't do it.

2. Lewis, plant his ass in the paint. He should take the occasional catch and shoot 3, that's it. Let him work down low.

Agree with all of this, PGs, except for O-Max. I was probably the most disappointed by him. Very sloppy on both ends. But, he's a young guy without much experience so I hope the game slows down for him.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Coaching matters. Talent matters. Experience matters.

We don't know what we have in coaching and talent yet. We know we got zip in experience. Gonna be a lot of ugly nights this season.

This is the baseline. The expectation for this season is that we build on it.

In the future when we question if the team has improved under Shaka, remember we gave up a 13-0 run to SIUE

[CAGASS24]

Personal thought is I see a future with this team.  Don't  have all the pieces yet obviously but;

Back court looks like ceiling could be high with morsell setting the tone this year and a core of Mitchell Jones Kolek for a few years after;

Front court needs more depth but again I like the prospect of a muti-year core of lewis oso and Omax , again with Kur setting the tone there;

After that the team is raw clay it appears right now and things will be ragged at times no doubt.

A few more key players and Id venture a floor of a Seton Hall-esque run the next three years. Not sure why I say that other than they had a solid few year run when that class of freshman from 5-6 years ago stuck around.  Personally I think MU has recruited better than Hall the last decade so if that continues that floor could be higher.  Ceiling should always be sky's the limit and I'm all in that Shaka is one good bet to take us there .

Congrats to to the squad, sure that first game with new coach and 9 new players gets fast quick but go back to work and dream big.

MU Rah !

[mug644]

No comment on Greg's suit?

Morsell tried very hard on offense. He got the scoring, ultimately, but he wasn't impressive/solid/consistent. I think he really wants to be THE guy on the team. I wonder if that's in him.

Justin is just not an alpha. Not overpowering enough, and not demonstrative enough. Help him find a valuable number 2 role, and he will rock.

So who will be the alpha? Big question (that Morsell and JLew are trying to answer.)

I loved Stevie's effort, persistence and performance. Unlikely that it will always be like tonight, but he may have a great future.

[brewcity77]

• It wasn't pretty, but I'm sure we're feeling better than fans of Virginia, Pitt, Georgia Tech, or Nebraska.
  
• A lot of close wins in the Big East & top-25. At least we won, even if not as comfortably as desired.
  
• This team will be fun and frustrating to watch.
  
• Some early, ill-advised threes and unnecessary mid-range shots. Nevada has work to do.
  
• When Oso & Kolek are creating possessions the way they were, I'm excited. The defense needs to improve, but the activity & aggression is evident at every position.
  
• Loved Tyler's passing. Would've had a double-double if not for some stone hands.
  
• Kudos to Morsell for the career-high 21 & Lewis for his first double-double.
  
• So sloppy with fouls. SIUE was in the bonus at the under-16 timeout of the second half.
  
• It was great to be back in the Fiserv, great for Shaka to get his first win, and great to cheer for Marquette in person again.

[rocky_warrior]

We don't know what we have in coaching

Only quibble, but after 12 years as a head coach shouldn't we know what we have in coaching at this time?

He certainly gets a few years to achieve this, but I expect good defense, with decent offense.

[JWags85]

I'll tell you what I was most disappointed in.

New coach.  New identity.  First season back with fans after Covid...and we trot out the same damn introduction spiel still using Streets that injects as much energy into a pregame crowd as a funeral dirge.  I like that we've branded Kills and have the counter, but man I was so hopeful for something contemporary and bombastic during intros.  But we're using the same Crean crap 3 coaches and almost 20 years later.

[MU82]

This team will be fun and frustrating to watch.

Yep.

I think what Shaka told The Athletic last month -- the quote I use in my tagline -- will be what this season is all about.

[MuggsyB]

• It wasn't pretty, but I'm sure we're feeling better than fans of Virginia, Pitt, Georgia Tech, or Nebraska.
  
• A lot of close wins in the Big East & top-25. At least we won, even if not as comfortably as desired.
  
• This team will be fun and frustrating to watch.
  
• Some early, ill-advised threes and unnecessary mid-range shots. Nevada has work to do.
  
• When Oso & Kolek are creating possessions the way they were, I'm excited. The defense needs to improve, but the activity & aggression is evident at every position.
  
• Loved Tyler's passing. Would've had a double-double if not for some stone hands.
  
• Kudos to Morsell for the career-high 21 & Lewis for his first double-double.
  
• So sloppy with fouls. SIUE was in the bonus at the under-16 timeout of the second half.
  
• It was great to be back in the Fiserv, great for Shaka to get his first win, and great to cheer for Marquette in person again.

Nice.  Three losses for the ACC.

[brewcity77]

Nice.  Three losses for the ACC.

Pac-12 tried to beat them out as Cal & Washington lost, but it looks like Colorado will escape after a three to force OT with 10 seconds left and Oregon State has rallied from a double digit second half deficit.

[Dickthedribbler]

I love Justin Lewis. And he has a decent 3 point shot. But I think he's falling in love with it.

I think he's better suited for the 8-12 foot jump shot; the little half hook or "runner", and going to the hoop.

I want him to take the three occasionally. But he's not Markus Howard.

[MuggsyB]

I love Justin Lewis. And he has a decent 3 point shot. But I think he's falling in love with it.

I think he's better suited for the 8-12 foot jump shot; the little half hook or "runner", and going to the hoop.

I want him to take the three occasionally. But he's not Markus Howard.

There is still a question whether he can be the Alpha but he looks really good to me physically.  He's also improved his ability to attack off the dribble.  More than taking fewer threes I think he has all the tools to be a very good 2-way player.  We need him to be engaged and focused defensively for 40 mins.  What I'm uncertain about is whether he should play more at the 5 and we should play 3 guards more?

[rocky_warrior]

I think what Shaka told The Athletic last month -- the quote I use in my tagline -- will be what this season is all about.

So he's already creating excuses, great!

[MarquetteMike1977]

Darryl 21 points,
Justin 17 Pts 11 Rebs,
Tyler 10 pts 9asts
Oso +\- +27
Kur +\-  -17

[rocky_warrior]

Kur +\-  -17

That was the truly surprising part of this game.  I guess Oso should be more surprising, but I expected Kur to be in the positive column and he wasn't.

[1SE]

48% Efg for a sub-300 team - not the most resounding start to the Shaka D era. But a W is a W - didnt see the same but sounds like lots of energy - that should.hopefully keep us competitive even when we're outmatchrd talent wise

[MarquetteMike1977]

That was the truly surprising part of this game.  I guess Oso should be more surprising, but I expected Kur to be in the positive column and he wasn't.

Agree surprising Kur was Marquette's only player in the negative column
Additional Stats
Omax 8 pts 7 rebs
Stevie 14 pts +\-  +16

[sfmu22]

I really enjoyed the effort at least on the defensive end, rebounding and the fg%s they gave up not so much.  Disappointed that I no longer feel the 1-300 national championship odds is the easiest money Vegas ever offered.  It seemed to me that after their initial offensive motions, there were plenty of lanes to attack and they didn't.  Obviously it's a different coach and system but with this personnel I think the paint touches offense would smoke. 

On the plus side:
-This is basically a completely new team, theoretically they should improve with familiarity. 
-Intensity can't be faked and there was clear effort. 
-kolek has great vision, and Mitchell is going to be a baller.
-It seems like Marquette is heading back towards their identity when I went to school.  They were always the toughest team on the floor, and even if they were outmatched they never thought they were.  There's a lot of freshman and if they develop, fingers crossed, they can become the five amigos.  They got a ways to go though unfortunately.

If we see clear player development I think we should all be happy.

[Herman Cain]

Very pleased to see the guys get a W.

Stevie Mitchell came through when we needed to pull away. Was impressed by that .

[tower912]

Things that surprised me last night.   
8 man rotation with a cameo from Joplin.    No EE.
Very little movement off the ball.   

Things that didn't.
Helter skelter playing style.
Young guys not knowing how to defend aggressively without fouling.
Lack of consistent 3 pt shooting.
No feeding the post.   

The team that doesn't get rattled by pressure and forces MU to play 1/2 court basketball with either a sagging man or a zone is going to do well against us. 

Respect the process. 

[avid1010]

MU starts 2 seniors and 3 guys that logged minutes as freshmen.  I expected more out of those 5...Kuath and OMP couldn't  do much (OMP got 7 boards) but I thought he would give us something on offense. 

Tyler was much better distributing the ball than I expected.

Morsell got it done despite 2 BS calls.

Officials were as bad as MU's defense.

I didn't have huge expectations for MU...but they were 20pt favorites...anyone who says they know more than the sportsbooks should have faded MU.

[UWW2MU]

Does it help anyone to know that kenpom preseason ranking has SIUE only 5 spots away from DePaul?   

Not sure if that's good or bad... but it's not like we played the typical 300+ ranking of most years.

[tower912]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401372002

Box score for your viewing pleasure. 

[panda]

Does it help anyone to know that kenpom preseason ranking has SIUE only 5 spots away from DePaul?   

Not sure if that's good or bad... but it's not like we played the typical 300+ ranking of most years.

We just played the typical 311 team on Kenpom. You're looking at Southern Illinois.

[UWW2MU]

Scratch that... I saw southern Illinois is the 145...