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Author Topic: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking  (Read 7932 times)

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2021, 01:00:44 PM »

Marquette's grad rate is behind its peers.  And yeah some of that is because of the reasons you mention regarding the four year rate are legit, but a six year rate of 82% isn't bad.  But Nova's and Gonzaga's are really, really good. 

About three quarters of the students who leave will leave after the first year BTW.

GU and Nova are helped in the rankings because they are drawing nationally and can be more selective and that contributes to students remaining on campus. GU has an acceptance rate of 61%, Nova 30%, MU's near 80%. LMU's is 43%
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2021, 01:08:49 PM »
There really isn't a strong correlation between acceptance rates and graduation rates though.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/08/07/college-selectivity-doesnt-really-matter-for-graduation-rates-study-says
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2021, 01:32:06 PM »
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2021, 02:25:09 PM »
The vast majority of Marquette students come from the Chicago-Milwaukee urban area.   Within one state of Chicago are these schools.

6 University of Chicago
9 Northwestern
14 Wash U St Louis
19 Notre Dame
23 Michigan
42 Madison
47 Illinois
49 Purdue
68 Indiana
83 Marquette
83 Michigan State (tie)
83 Iowa
103 Loyola Chicago
103 St Louis
103 UIC
112 IIT
122 Iowa St
127 DePaul
136 Drake
148 Michigan Tech
172 Valparaiso
187 Detroit
196 IUPUI

Marquette will never keep up with the elite institutions like Chicago and Northwestern, or with the resources of the Big Ten research institutions (though we are tied/ahead of a few of them), but to be #2 among private, religious colleges on this list...that's exactly where Marquette wants to be.  20 spots ahead of SLU and LUC? 40+ ahead of DePaul, Drake, and Valpo?  That'll make the board and donors happy.

You left off #136 St. Thomas

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2021, 03:10:39 PM »
You left off #136 St. Thomas


And the U of MN at 68.

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2021, 03:38:18 PM »
You left off #136 St. Thomas


And the U of MN at 68.

He said within a state of Chicago, not Milwaukee
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2021, 03:52:58 PM »
He said within a state of Chicago, not Milwaukee

My rationale being that those schools aren't really on the radar of suburban Chicago kids.  I grew up in Gurnee and had friends head to Michigan St and Iowa and Indiana, but Kentucky, Minnesota, Ohio, and even Missouri (though not the St Louis schools) were just too far to be considered.  If you're gonna go that far it's for a specific program. Otherwise it's better to go all the way to the East or West coast

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2021, 04:34:38 PM »
Well, it is just an undergrad ranking, so the lack of a law school and medical school don't matter.

Then why are the graduate schools touted in their overview.

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2021, 05:28:21 PM »
He said within a state of Chicago, not Milwaukee

Michigan schools aren't within a state of Chicago....

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2021, 05:34:40 PM »
Feels about right overall.

But are we behind Gonzaga, Santa Clara and Loyola Marymount?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Thank You for posting. Saw that. Also saw someone here posted Marquette University Class of 2025 is coming the most from 2 Illinois HS. 1 I believe was Loyola HS, can not remember the other HS with about 23 each. Cristo Rey JHS was 3rd with 21. Catholic Memorial HS had 15 for MU Class of 2022 and 13 for MU class of 2023. Does anyone have anymore information

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2021, 05:50:55 PM »
Michigan schools aren't within a state of Chicago....

I didn't say his list was right,  haha
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2021, 05:56:08 PM »
US News And World Report Rankings
2014 MU 75
2015 MU 76
2016 MU 86
2018 MU 90
2020 MU 88
2021 MU 83
Nice seeing MU heading in the right direction

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2021, 06:49:48 PM »
US News And World Report Rankings
2014 MU 75
2015 MU 76
2016 MU 86
2018 MU 90
2020 MU 88
2021 MU 83
Nice seeing MU heading in the right direction
New head coach probably helped

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2021, 07:22:59 PM »
New head coach probably helped

Inflection points when Wojo hired/fired. Good call, Newsie.

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2021, 07:41:09 PM »
Inflection points when Wojo hired/fired. Good call, Newsie.
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2021, 09:11:07 PM »
It amazes me that Princeton ranks so high. It neither has a law School or Medical School.

MIT and Caltech say hi.

Graduate and professional programs are ranked separately.

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2021, 10:36:16 PM »
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2021, 08:33:06 AM »
If comparing schools for the purpose of undergrad degree, these USNWR rankings might be more appropriate:

Marquette University
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#58 in Best Undergraduate Teaching (tie)

#54 in Best Value Schools

Didn't we just have a discussion on how expensive it is to attend MU even with all the discounts/scholarships.

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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2021, 09:06:03 AM »
Michigan schools aren't within a state of Chicago....

Michigan and Illinois meet in the Middle of Lake Michigan.
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2021, 09:10:40 AM »
Michigan and Illinois meet in the Middle of Lake Michigan.

On a boat?  Over a few beers?  Make jokes about what a pain 45 miles of Indiana is?
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2021, 01:35:54 PM »
On a boat?  Over a few beers?  Make jokes about what a pain 45 miles of Indiana is?
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2021, 03:14:37 PM »
GU and Nova are helped in the rankings because they are drawing nationally and can be more selective and that contributes to students remaining on campus. GU has an acceptance rate of 61%, Nova 30%, MU's near 80%. LMU's is 43%

That's not accurate. Georgetown has an acceptance rate of 11.7%.

https://thehoya.com/gu-admits-just-12-of-applicants-setting-record-low/

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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2021, 04:04:14 PM »
That's not accurate. Georgetown has an acceptance rate of 11.7%.

https://thehoya.com/gu-admits-just-12-of-applicants-setting-record-low/

GU is Gonzaga in this case.
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Re: Marquette No. 83 In New US News Ranking
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2021, 08:50:40 PM »
GU is Gonzaga in this case.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

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