2021-22 Non-Conference Schedule

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Projected T-Rank:

#308 SIUE
#222 New Hampshire
#4 Illinois
#69 Ole Miss
#32 West Virginia/#176 Elon
#20 St. Bonaventure/#49 Clemson/#71 Boise St/#121 Temple
#298 Northern Illinois
#190 Jackson St
at #57 Wisconsin
at #90 Kansas St
#2 UCLA

First reaction is that 7 out of 11 games are scheduled right where you want them to be for a young but talented team. 7 opponents preseason ranked somewhere between 20-222, all of these games are winnable but not dogs. Good challenges to build on.

Then there are two dogs in SIUE and Northern Illinois. Though at least they aren't projected to be in the bottom 50 and I like that SIUE is first to get the first game kinks out of the way. If you have to have two dogs on the schedule, these aren't bad ones to have.

Finally, there are nigh unwinnable games against 2 of the 4 teams T-rank projects to go to the Final Four. Gotta hope for some Fiserv magic. If nothing else, they will good measuring sticks to show how far we have to go to get to the levels we want MU to be at.

I'm expecting 7-4 against this schedule. Wouldn't be shocked but disappointed by 6-5. Would be impressed with 8-3. 9-2 or better and we should be in for a great year.

[GoldenWarrior11]

With the Big East moving to 20 games, OOC games are even more important to get wins and position yourself for a (hopeful) tournament bid.  With this year's team, confidence and wins are most important heading into conference play.  For this reason, and probably in the minority on the board, I am pleased to have SIUE, New Hampshire, Northern Illinois and Jackson State on the schedule. Those projected wins will be huge for the early season development of this young and inexperienced squad. 

[Mr. Nielsen]

Only four guarantee games, compared to 6 to 8 in most years. Like that as a STH.

[jfp61]

It really depends on the teams faced in the Tournament. I would sign up for 7 wins today if we beat ole miss and play WVU and one of Clemson or St Bons

[MU82]

It really depends on the teams faced in the Tournament. I would sign up for 7 wins today if we beat ole miss and play WVU and one of Clemson or St Bons

In some ways, Ole Miss could end up being the most important game on the non-con schedule.

[Herman Cain]

I believe MU can win The Charleston Classic . The overall schedule is good. Some tough games but a lot of winnable games . 7 to 8 wins are achievable.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

One thing I found while playing with t-rank. MU ranks 12th in fewest returning minutes in D1 with only 19.8% of their minutes returning. 5th amongst high majors. Only Georgia (7.2%), Minnesota (7.8%), Creighton (18.2%), and Mizzou (19.7%) have less returning minutes amongst high majors.

[Herman Cain]

One thing I found while playing with t-rank. MU ranks 12th in fewest returning minutes in D1 with only 19.8% of their minutes returning. 5th amongst high majors. Only Georgia (7.2%), Minnesota (7.8%), Creighton (18.2%), and Mizzou (19.7%) have less returning minutes amongst high majors.

Do they have some kind of analysis of returning minutes including transfers? As we have 3 starters transferring in.

[Nukem2]

One thing I found while playing with t-rank. MU ranks 12th in fewest returning minutes in D1 with only 19.8% of their minutes returning. 5th amongst high majors. Only Georgia (7.2%), Minnesota (7.8%), Creighton (18.2%), and Mizzou (19.7%) have less returning minutes amongst high majors.

Actually, MU is at 17.8% looking at the numbers at gomarquette.com

[Uncle Rico]

Projected T-Rank:

#308 SIUE
#222 New Hampshire
#4 Illinois
#69 Ole Miss
#32 West Virginia/#176 Elon
#20 St. Bonaventure/#49 Clemson/#71 Boise St/#121 Temple
#298 Northern Illinois
#190 Jackson St
at #57 Wisconsin
at #90 Kansas St
#2 UCLA

First reaction is that 7 out of 11 games are scheduled right where you want them to be for a young but talented team. 7 opponents preseason ranked somewhere between 20-222, all of these games are winnable but not dogs. Good challenges to build on.

Then there are two dogs in SIUE and Northern Illinois. Though at least they aren't projected to be in the bottom 50 and I like that SIUE is first to get the first game kinks out of the way. If you have to have two dogs on the schedule, these aren't bad ones to have.

Finally, there are nigh unwinnable games against 2 of the 4 teams T-rank projects to go to the Final Four. Gotta hope for some Fiserv magic. If nothing else, they will good measuring sticks to show how far we have to go to get to the levels we want MU to be at.

I'm expecting 7-4 against this schedule. Wouldn't be shocked but disappointed by 6-5. Would be impressed with 8-3. 9-2 or better and we should be in for a great year.

3-8

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Do they have some kind of analysis of returning minutes including transfers? As we have 3 starters transferring in.

Not that I can see but you're welcome to play around with it: https://www.barttorvik.com/?sort=rmp&conlimit=

Actually, MU is at 17.8% looking at the numbers at gomarquette.com

You aren't wrong. I don't know where t-rank gets their numbers.

[BrewCity83]

3-8

LOL.  So you have them losing to Jackson State or New Hampshire?

[Uncle Rico]

LOL.  So you have them losing to Jackson State or New Hampshire?

I wouldn't sleep on either.  Brutality epitome awaits

[MU82]

3-8

Daaaaaaamn, Unk!

[Lennys Tap]

Actually, MU is at 17.8% looking at the numbers at gomarquette.com

Barest cupboard ever, a'ina?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Barest cupboard ever, a'ina?

Depends on if you credit him with "losing" 7 players to transfer and 1 to the pros. Personally, I don't so I would say yes, Shaka is starting with the barest cupboard of any MU coach since at least TC.

[Herman Cain]

Depends on if you credit him with "losing" 7 players to transfer and 1 to the pros. Personally, I don't so I would say yes, Shaka is starting with the barest cupboard of any MU coach since at least TC.

I look around the rest of the league and believe our team will represent MU well this year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I look around the rest of the league and believe our team will represent MU well this year.

I think they will represent us very well. Just not necessarily in the W/L column. I think we could end up finishing as high as sixth in the Big East...but more because the bottom half of the Big East is going to be bad this season.

[Its DJOver]

3-8

Unfortunately I could see it.  Am hoping for better, but there are a ton of young players that will have to grow up real fast for anything better to happen.

[rocky_warrior]

Unfortunately I could see it.  Am hoping for better, but there are a ton of young players that will have to grow up real fast for anything better to happen.

The D *may* be good enough to keep us in any game.  But when the D skips a beat, or the opposing team can't miss, it'll be a  painful day.   I'm not so optimistic on offense this year.

Rico was being funny though.  I think.  I hope.

[Uncle Rico]

The D *may* be good enough to keep us in any game.  But when the D skips a beat, or the opposing team can't miss, it'll be a  painful day.   I'm not so optimistic on offense this year.

Rico was being funny though.  I think.  I hope.

I'm very pessimistic about the actual record this year and am more focused on the process than wins and losses next year.  I think they'll be bad early in the year and lose a game or two that will send people into making up clever nicknames for Shaka by the turn of the year.  The good news is, the Big East looks like hot trash again

[Its DJOver]

The D *may* be good enough to keep us in any game.  But when the D skips a beat, or the opposing team can't miss, it'll be a  painful day.   I'm not so optimistic on offense this year.

Rico was being funny though.  I think.  I hope.

I'm not as high on the defensive end as a lot of people here for a couple of reasons. 1, while there are some good individual defenders on the roster, that doesn't necessarily equal a good team defense, especially when they are all learning Shaka's system, and essentially no one has played together before. 2, no matter how you divvy up the minutes, underclassmen, specifically Freshman, will be getting significant minutes.  That's good for long term development, but it is very rare for a Freshman to be ready on that end of the court. 

I think what Rico, and Tower have said about next year the focus should be on the growth from Nov to March, rather than the W/L record, is spot on.

[MU82]

I agree about the process and all that. I expect some pain this season.

But I'll be pretty disappointed if we go into conference play with a losing record, let alone only 3 wins.

[Dr. Blackheart]

T-Tank has MU 8th in the Big East. This sounds about right to me as an expectation. One benchmark is to be better than 8-12 in the Big East that MU was during last year's flop.

Charleston will give us a strong idea how this team will perform--more qualitatively than quantitatively. One advantage for Shaka is he has his guys here and practicing his system. MU has more depth and athleticism while last year's team had more star power. But that star power never gelled for a number of reasons.

Out with the finesse and in with the physical.

https://www.barttorvik.com/?conlimit=BE&state=All&year=2022&sort=

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

#308 SIUE W
#222 New Hampshire W
#4 Illinois L
#69 Ole Miss W
#32 West Virginia L/#176 Elon
#20 St. Bonaventure/#49 Clemson L/#71 Boise St/#121 Temple
#298 Northern Illinois W
#190 Jackson St W
at #57 Wisconsin L
at #90 Kansas St W
#2 UCLA L

I see 6-5.  The Charleston games will be the difference between entering the Wisconsin game with a chance at decent season or being close to DOA. Not a ton of confidence in results this season, but looking forward to watching the kids.  Hope to be pleasantly surprised.