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Author Topic: 2021-2022 NFL Season  (Read 270268 times)

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4075 on: January 25, 2022, 05:19:16 PM »
Hey ... Lovie got them to the Super Bowl.
But I understand your point. Still, it's not as if the Bears have always looked to old defensive guys for coaches.
Also, keep in mind, Caldwell's background is as an offensive coordinator and QB coach. He's not a defensive guy.

Caldwell just seems like a real "Bears-y" move.

Hire an offensive "genius" and when that goes bad, hire an older guy to restore the culture. When that fails, hire another offensive "genius". When that fails, hire an older culture guy to restore stability - Caldwell.

Am I wrong here?

(I am not commenting on whether Caldwell would be a good or bad coach - just the hiring situation).

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4076 on: January 25, 2022, 05:29:39 PM »
Caldwell just seems like a real "Bears-y" move.

Hire an offensive "genius" and when that goes bad, hire an older guy to restore the culture. When that fails, hire another offensive "genius". When that fails, hire an older culture guy to restore stability - Caldwell.

Am I wrong here?

(I am not commenting on whether Caldwell would be a good or bad coach - just the hiring situation).

Lovie...Trestman...Fox...Nagy...

There's a pattern there

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4077 on: January 25, 2022, 05:57:58 PM »
Lovie...Trestman...Fox...Nagy...

There's a pattern there

Not sure I'd put Trestman and Nagy in the same category.
Trestman was 58 years old when he got the Bears gig - 13 years old than Lovie, when he was hired -  and had 17 years experience in the NFL,including as OC for four teams, plus head coaching experience, albeit in Canada.
Nagy was a 39-year-old who had two years as an OC and wasn't even his team's full-time playcaller and no HC experience on any level.
The only things they have in common is they both had offensive backgrounds and thought they were smarter than the average bear.
Honestly, Trestman had as many similarities with Fox (age, NFL lifers, previous HC experience) as Nagy, arguably more.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4078 on: January 25, 2022, 05:58:53 PM »
Hey ... Lovie got them to the Super Bowl.
But I understand your point. Still, it's not as if the Bears have always looked to old defensive guys for coaches.
Also, keep in mind, Caldwell's background is as an offensive coordinator and QB coach. He's not a defensive guy.

Im thinking specifically of Lovie’s “we get off the bus running” mentality.

I have no large issue with Caldwell, depending on coordinators.  No Jim Bob Cooter plz

Love hearing about Poles asserting himself early.

Lovie...Trestman...Fox...Nagy...

There's a pattern there

The Fox situation was weird though. He was very clearly a placeholder. I don’t think anyone really expected Fox to be helming the Bears for the mid to long term, especially with him being foisted on Pace.  This hire doesn’t feel like that, especially with a new GM having input.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4079 on: January 25, 2022, 07:13:03 PM »
Im thinking specifically of Lovie’s “we get off the bus running” mentality.

I have no large issue with Caldwell, depending on coordinators.  No Jim Bob Cooter plz

Love hearing about Poles asserting himself early.

The Fox situation was weird though. He was very clearly a placeholder. I don’t think anyone really expected Fox to be helming the Bears for the mid to long term, especially with him being foisted on Pace.  This hire doesn’t feel like that, especially with a new GM having input.

Poles asserting himself means that Ted Phillips looks like he is no longer a part of the football side of things.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4080 on: January 25, 2022, 07:16:41 PM »
Poles asserting himself means that Ted Phillips looks like he is no longer a part of the football side of things.

Allegedly, in the last couple days, Omar Kahn of the Steelers interviewed for Ted's job

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4081 on: January 25, 2022, 07:54:39 PM »
Poles asserting himself means that Ted Phillips looks like he is no longer a part of the football side of things.

That's been the plan. Phillips is going to focus on Arlington Park.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4082 on: January 27, 2022, 06:42:07 AM »
Hackett takes the Broncos job.  LaFleur will probably promote Getsy to OC unless he decides to follow Hackett with Rodgers to Denver
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4083 on: January 27, 2022, 06:45:14 AM »
Hackett takes the Broncos job.  LaFleur will probably promote Getsy to OC unless he decides to follow Hackett with Rodgers to Denver

As expected.  Rodgers would cost the Broncos too much, but stranger things have happened.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4084 on: January 27, 2022, 07:29:52 AM »
As expected.  Rodgers would cost the Broncos too much, but stranger things have happened.

Looks like Hackett is targeting Adam Stenavich for OC. 

Rodgers to Denver is doable. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4085 on: January 27, 2022, 07:36:45 AM »
I 100% think that this hire was made for Rodgers and that's where he wants to go. 
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4086 on: January 27, 2022, 08:10:44 AM »
Rodgers and Adams to Denver?

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4087 on: January 27, 2022, 08:22:27 AM »
Adios mf'ers and da stable of jackasses dey road inn on, hey?
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4088 on: January 27, 2022, 10:01:12 AM »
Bears hire Matt Eberflus

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4089 on: January 27, 2022, 10:02:32 AM »
At least the Bears only have to change the last names on GM and Head Coach office window

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4090 on: January 27, 2022, 10:04:32 AM »
I really thought it’d be Caldwell.

Be interesting to see who the coordinators are going to be.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4091 on: January 27, 2022, 10:15:24 AM »
As expected.  Rodgers would cost the Broncos too much, but stranger things have happened.

Broncos got picks.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4092 on: January 27, 2022, 10:31:20 AM »
I really thought it’d be Caldwell.

Be interesting to see who the coordinators are going to be.

As of yesterday, rumor was George wanted Caldwell. But as reported, Poles preferred Eberflus or Quinn. I'm surprised it wasn't Quinn

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4093 on: January 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM »
Will wait till I see coordinator hires, but as pumped as I was about Poles, this is a resounding MEH for me.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4094 on: January 27, 2022, 10:40:57 AM »
As of yesterday, rumor was George wanted Caldwell. But as reported, Poles preferred Eberflus or Quinn. I'm surprised it wasn't Quinn

That's interesting - if that is true, Poles was clearly looking defense for his head coaching choice.  Coming from the Chiefs it stands to reason then that Poles has ideas for the offense and didn't want to defer that to his head coaching choice. 

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4096 on: January 27, 2022, 10:50:45 AM »
I don't understand why people would be excited about the new GM hire, then criticize his first big decision.  Can anyone actually articulate a reason why the Bears shouldn't hire Eberflus?
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4097 on: January 27, 2022, 10:59:06 AM »
I 100% think that this hire was made for Rodgers and that's where he wants to go.

I know the popular narrative is that Rodgers can pick and choose where he goes. The reality is Rodgers is under contract with the packers for 2022 and the Packers decide where he goes. Rodgers only choices are if he wants to play or not. If say, the Raiders come up with a significantly better package than Broncos, the Packers are trading him to the Raiders. As far as Rodgers and Adams going to the same team? It is highly unlikely any team would have that much draft capital to get that done without destroying their team.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4098 on: January 27, 2022, 11:02:08 AM »
As of yesterday, rumor was George wanted Caldwell. But as reported, Poles preferred Eberflus or Quinn. I'm surprised it wasn't Quinn

Quinn came out and said he is not interested in a head coaching job and that he is staying with Dallas. The choice may have been made for Poles as far as those two candidates.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #4099 on: January 27, 2022, 11:02:21 AM »
Any team that trades for Rodgers will require him signing an extension. So, he has that leverage. Having said, Rodgers may have bf'ed himself right into a corner  aina?
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