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Author Topic: 2021-2022 NFL Season  (Read 271379 times)

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #750 on: September 12, 2021, 08:57:16 PM »
Just when you think the Bears are in the game... BAM. Another bad defensive play. Rams 20 Bears 7

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #751 on: September 12, 2021, 09:00:41 PM »
Ouch.  Talk about wide open.

Man, they left him even more wide open than they did Randall Cobb back in 2013.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #753 on: September 12, 2021, 09:15:27 PM »
1st and goal at the 2.  Will we get 7?

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #754 on: September 12, 2021, 09:16:05 PM »
Yea!!  Da Bears

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #755 on: September 12, 2021, 09:18:10 PM »
If we’re being totally honest, the Rams have been completely mediocre thus far tonight.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #756 on: September 12, 2021, 09:19:55 PM »
If we’re being totally honest, the Rams have been completely mediocre thus far tonight.

True.  But Inthought it would be like 35-7 at the end of the 3Q.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #757 on: September 12, 2021, 09:35:48 PM »
Bears got rid of Kyle Fuller.

Bears kept Jimmy Graham and Robert Quinn.

Bears acquired Andy Dalton. And are starting him over Justin Fields.

Fire Nagy. Fire Pace.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #759 on: September 12, 2021, 10:01:03 PM »
Darnold had a decent debut for the Panthers. Looked real sharp in the first half, less so after halftime. Showed a strong arm, only had a couple inaccurate passes (though either might have gone for a TD had Darnold not overthrown), good awareness in the pocket, more quickness than I expected.

Still work to do, but I'm encouraged.

Even more encouraged by the return of McCaffrey. What a great security blanket for Darnold as a receiver out of the backfield. Also threw a big block that let Darnold throw a long TD bomb to Anderson. What a football player McCaffrey is.

The Panthers' defense appears to be better, too, but I need to see it against a team that isn't the Jets.

As for Zach Wilson ... he was like a deer in headlights in the first half but he settled down. He had a couple throws that made me say, "Wow, I see why everybody was so high on him." I worry that he won't make it through the season in one piece, as the Panthers constantly beat the Jets' blocking and crushed Wilson over and over.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #760 on: September 12, 2021, 10:07:18 PM »
Bears got rid of Kyle Fuller.

Bears kept Jimmy Graham and Robert Quinn.

Bears acquired Andy Dalton. And are starting him over Justin Fields.

Fire Nagy. Fire Pace.

The most accurate post I have ever read.  I cannot stand Nagy or Pace

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #761 on: September 12, 2021, 10:08:26 PM »
In the history of his team.

Tower

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #762 on: September 12, 2021, 11:16:29 PM »
Bears got rid of Kyle Fuller.

Bears kept Jimmy Graham and Robert Quinn.

Bears acquired Andy Dalton. And are starting him over Justin Fields.

Fire Nagy. Fire Pace.

Jimmy Graham was a bad signing before last season, and choosing to keep him at the expense of others was even more baffling.

I understood Dalton...until making moves for Fields.  A great move offset by another move that made no sense.

Speaking of Butkus, the Bears draft Sayers and Butkus is back to back picks back in 1965.  Pretty sure you could give Pace back to back top 5 picks for 10 consecutive drafts and he wouldn't find a HOF player.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #763 on: September 12, 2021, 11:18:34 PM »
Just rip off the bandaid and start Justin Fields…O-Line was surprisingly competent tonight for the most part.

Nagy bought his boy Dalton another week just because the defense was so piss poor.

Honestly, it felt like Nagy was trying to inflate Dalton’s stats by running nothing but 5 yard flat routs so his completion percentage looks good and he doesn’t have to get Justin Fields questions.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #764 on: September 12, 2021, 11:32:20 PM »
I honestly have no issue bringing Fields along slowly...as long as its done properly.  Id be fine holding him out until Week 4 or Week 6, bleed him in slowly, but just don't panic and throw him in cause Dalton is crap.  Cause we already know he is.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #765 on: September 13, 2021, 05:09:24 AM »
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #766 on: September 13, 2021, 05:14:55 AM »
It’s kind of nice to see Matt Stafford have something nice for once. Never disliked him when he was with the lions.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #767 on: September 13, 2021, 05:49:57 AM »
Tower

 Every NFL top 50 or top 100 players survey I’ve ever seen lists him as the GOAT. I wasn’t a Bear’s fan at the time but I concur. Lambert, Singletary, Ray N, Bednarick we’re Hall of Famers but definitely a level below Butkus



Ray Lewis is the best MLB of all time and its not particularly close.  Butkus was obviously great, but top 10 player of all time?  Nope.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #768 on: September 13, 2021, 07:35:50 AM »
Great killer too. Distant second doe ta Da Juice, hey?
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #769 on: September 13, 2021, 10:48:45 AM »
I honestly have no issue bringing Fields along slowly...as long as its done properly.  Id be fine holding him out until Week 4 or Week 6, bleed him in slowly, but just don't panic and throw him in cause Dalton is crap.  Cause we already know he is.

Bringing along Fields fast or slow is not the problem for this team. The defense is. That window has closed. Mack is just a guy now - whether it's age or injuries doesn't matter. Jackson has regressed into one of the worst safeties in the league. Hicks will never be fully healthy again. Roquan is the ONLY star of this team on 'D'. He may be the only one who even cares anymore.

With an average defense, Dalton cannot win games. Fields needs to be on the field learning. Manning and Aikman got buried as rookies, but it was good for their long term development. They need to let Fields go through the same thing. Learn now. Getting a few reps as the backup does not help his learning process.

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #770 on: September 13, 2021, 11:09:24 AM »
Bringing along Fields fast or slow is not the problem for this team. The defense is. That window has closed. Mack is just a guy now - whether it's age or injuries doesn't matter. Jackson has regressed into one of the worst safeties in the league. Hicks will never be fully healthy again. Roquan is the ONLY star of this team on 'D'. He may be the only one who even cares anymore.

With an average defense, Dalton cannot win games. Fields needs to be on the field learning. Manning and Aikman got buried as rookies, but it was good for their long term development. They need to let Fields go through the same thing. Learn now. Getting a few reps as the backup does not help his learning process.

Exactly.  The Bears had a great defense in 2018 and 2019.  Last year they were frankly average at best and this season they are probably worse.  Mack has done very little the past year + and Hicks can't stay healthy.  Their secondary is worse than mediocre.  Nagy will probably start Fields after 4/5 games but I agree that he should be out there and learn now for the future.  I'll be shocked if the Bears win more than 5 games.

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« Reply #771 on: September 13, 2021, 12:07:51 PM »
With an average defense, Dalton cannot win games. Fields needs to be on the field learning. Manning and Aikman got buried as rookies, but it was good for their long term development. They need to let Fields go through the same thing. Learn now. Getting a few reps as the backup does not help his learning process.

It depends on the O-Line.  For every Manning or Aikman, there is an Alex Smith, a Joey Harrington, or other top QBs thrust into situations where they were cannon fodder and it ruined their development.  If he can stay upright and not get blown up, then yea, take his lumps and let him learn.  I don't want another shellshocked waste of potential.  Seeing Jason Peters' corpse getting eviscerated on the left side terrifies me.

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« Reply #772 on: September 13, 2021, 12:18:23 PM »
It depends on the O-Line.  For every Manning or Aikman, there is an Alex Smith, a Joey Harrington, or other top QBs thrust into situations where they were cannon fodder and it ruined their development.  If he can stay upright and not get blown up, then yea, take his lumps and let him learn.  I don't want another shellshocked waste of potential.  Seeing Jason Peters' corpse getting eviscerated on the left side terrifies me.

You are making an assumption that Smith and Harrington were going to be great QBs. I think neither was ever going to be Manning or Aikman. Smith got sacked way more often as a veteran QB as did Harrington.

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« Reply #773 on: September 13, 2021, 12:23:38 PM »
I don't think there is one way to develop a quarterback.  Both Favre and Rodgers didn't play immediately and it worked.  Aikman and Manning didn't...and that worked too!

Letting Fields sit is a fine decision if Nagy feels he doesn't know the offense well enough.  If Fields is deemed ready by next week, next month or next year, that's fine too.
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« Reply #774 on: September 13, 2021, 12:29:23 PM »
Joe Barry Carroll has been a DC in the NFL for 4 years. His teams finished 30th, 31st, 15th, and 32nd in the rankings. We saw why yesterday.

Regarding whether Fields should start or not, how about should Eric Stokes be starting or not. Kevin King has just put together the worst back-to-back games by a cornerback in team history. He should be sat down immediately.

 

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