Is Bates better than any of Shaka's signees?

[NolongerWarriors]

Yes, and it isn't particularly close.

People lost their minds over guys that would have elicited a yawn if Wojo had recruited them.

[jesmu84]

Yes, and it isn't particularly close.

People lost their minds over guys that would have elicited a yawn if Wojo had recruited them.

Why don't you like the Shaka hire?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Yes, and it isn't particularly close.

People lost their minds over guys that would have elicited a yawn if Wojo had recruited them.

Much like I'm eliciting a yawn over your post.

[JakeBarnes]

Is this the most sour grapes post that's ever been posted on scoop? Yes. And that takes a lot.

[#UnleashSean]

Is bates better then the rest of shaka recruits, possibly and a light probably.


However shakas recruits are better then 3 years of Bare CuPbOaRd.

[🏀]

Why don't you like the Shaka hire?

It's a thinly veiled reason looking at post history.

[Tyler COLEk]

It's a thinly veiled reason looking at post history.

Not sure there's much of any veil.

[Stretchdeltsig]

He's not here. No further discussion.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Not sure there's much of any veil.

It's more of a hood than a veil.

[🏀]

It's more of a hood than a veil.

A pointy hood.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Yes, and it isn't particularly close.

People lost their minds over guys that would have elicited a yawn if Wojo had recruited them.

Wojo never recruited pieces that completed a puzzle though...... he just had pieces

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[MarquetteDano]

I really hope in a few years people are angrily comparing Shaka to Buzz.

[Skatastrophy]

I really hope in a few years people are angrily comparing Shaka to Buzz.

"God, he just can't get past the Elite 8 for some reason"

[The Lens]

Yes, and it isn't particularly close.

People lost their minds over guys that would have elicited a yawn if Wojo had recruited them.

Shaka lost Wojo's top recruit, kept his 2nd and 3rd best recruits, added a few more and would you look at that...

OUR RANKING IMPROVED

Wojo's class was 21st
Shaka's class is 15th

[Galway Eagle]

Shaka lost Wojo's top recruit, kept his 2nd and 3rd best recruits, added a few more and would you look at that...

OUR RANKING IMPROVED

Wojo's class was 21st
Shaka's class is 15th

Because class ranking is done by overall sum of points. I don't know what the best way to do a class ranking is but in this system you could get 5 3-star recruits that'll be role players for 4 years and be higher than 2 1 and done level players.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Because class ranking is done by overall sum of points. I don't know what the best way to do a class ranking is but in this system you could get 5 3-star recruits that'll be role players for 4 years and be higher than 2 1 and done level players.

Not all rankings are done by a sum of points.  I can't speak to the one referenced above, though. 

[onepost]

Yes, and it isn't particularly close.

People lost their minds over guys that would have elicited a yawn if Wojo had recruited them.

Who says Shaka wasn't more excited about a guy like Emarion Ellis and his upside than a Tamar Bates......

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Who says Shaka wasn't more excited about a guy like Emarion Ellis and his upside than a Tamar Bates......

Onepost may be on to something

[Herman Cain]

Tamar Bates has a degree of athleticism and shooting skills that make his probability of having an immediate impact as a freshman higher than average. No one is denying those attributes, which is why we all hoped Bates would come to MU.

However, Shaka has 5 promising freshman prospects , with a meaningful probability that one or two of them will be a "Diamond in The Rough". All 5 have high floors , so probability is good within 1-2 years they are important contributors once they make the transition from high school to college ball.

I am delighted with the 5 prospects we have.  Each fits a need we have  to compete in The Big East.

[CountryRoads]

I watched 2-3 of Bates full games and he's definitely talented, but didn't stick out in any of the ones I've seen. Granted, he was on a very good team but was only the 3rd option and just kind of blended in. Bates jump in the rankings (which I am assuming the OP is basing this off) from the 90s to the 50s likely was a result of his affiliation with IMG more than anything. We have multiple players signed already in his weight class, so I think it's all just luck and other factors on who turns out better from this point.

Question:

Would we have been upset in 2013 if we missed out on JJJ (42) and instead got stuck with Zach LaVine (79)?

[Dawson Rental]

Original question: Is Bates better than ANY of Shaka's signees?
Answer: Almost certainly.
Better question: Is Bates better than ALL of Shaka's signees?
Answer: Almost certainly NOT.

Problem is OP posted remarks that seemed to suggest that he was asking the second question and the answer was yes.

It's amazing how some posters think that games are not players taking the floor, but coaches taking the floor with cards listing their players HS rankings.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Original question: Is Bates better than ANY of Shaka's signees?
Answer: Almost certainly.
Better question: Is Bates better than ALL of Shaka's signees?
Answer: Almost certainly NOT.

Problem is OP posted remarks that seemed to suggest that he was asking the second question and the answer was yes.

It's amazing how some posters think that games are not players taking the floor, but coaches taking the floor with cards listing their players HS rankings.

Bates may be better now but there's certainly no guarantee he ends up as the best of that group of players. 

[dgies9156]

As Mr. Wonderful would say,

"you are dead to me."

He turned us down. Move on.

As Al once said, "son we will win with you or without you..."

Like what we have and am confident we have a winner.

[NCMUFan]

Exactly, why judge before anyone takes the court and games are played.

[The Sultan]

As Mr. Wonderful would say,

"you are dead to me."

He turned us down. Move on.

As Al once said, "son we will win with you or without you..."

Like what we have and am confident we have a winner.

Jeez. It's just a kid choosing a college. I wish him well.