Starting Lineup

[Galway Eagle]

???

https://247sports.com/player/emarion-ellis-46097931/

I think he thought you meant elliott

[Hards Alumni]

???

https://247sports.com/player/emarion-ellis-46097931/

See, I made the mistake, simple explanation.

[Autoengineer]

See, I made the mistake, simple explanation.

Hards types faster than he thinks.

[Hards Alumni]

Hards types faster than he thinks.

Just think, I weren't around to hurt your fee fees you'd have nothing to talk about at all!

[willie warrior]

Morsell
Carton
Bates
Baldwin
Garcia

Interesting.  Projecting 3 guys as starters that are not even in the program.

[Goose]

I'd go with BLM's lineup.

[brewcity77]

Assuming the roster stays the same, I'd say...

Kolek
Carton
Elliott
Lewis
Garcia

First 3: Ighadaro, Jones, Joplin

But I think there's a very good chance one of the above is gone and replaced with someone not yet here.

[Scoop Snoop]

Assuming the roster stays the same, I'd say...

Kolek
Carton
Elliott
Lewis
Garcia

First 3: Ighadaro, Jones, Joplin

But I think there's a very good chance one of the above is gone and replaced with someone not yet here.

Very interesting post Brew. On the Holyland site, Golden Warriors 11 stated the obvious- that someone has to leave- but added that it would not be Garcia. MU Panther replied that he was hearing vibes on campus that Garcia is leaving but no one else has said anything at all like this. Strange.

If you wanted to say more, you would have but your mysterious comments have me wondering what's behind them. Like many here, I expected the departures likely to be Perez and Akanno. Maybe them plus one more (other than Greg Elliot?). I doubt that Bates is coming for the simple reason he has held off for so long and I do not understand why he would not have made a decision yet if Marquette as his choice.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Still believe Garcia stays. 

[HutchwasClutch]

Lewis
Garcia
O-Max
Kolek
Carton

Sixth man- Elliott

In the mix- Joplin, Ellis, Oso, Mitchell

Think O-Max playing a full ACC season, skill set, and size gives him a leg up on others. 

[JakeBarnes]

I haven't seen Elliot in any of the recent vids or photos. Maybe my super sleuthing is bad, but that seems like a tell?

[Uncle Rico]

Garcia is gone

[Skatastrophy]

Garcia is gone

I hope he has better info than Vander Blue did.

[brewcity77]

Very interesting post Brew. On the Holyland site, Golden Warriors 11 stated the obvious- that someone has to leave- but added that it would not be Garcia. MU Panther replied that he was hearing vibes on campus that Garcia is leaving but no one else has said anything at all like this. Strange.

If you wanted to say more, you would have but your mysterious comments have me wondering what's behind them. Like many here, I expected the departures likely to be Perez and Akanno. Maybe them plus one more (other than Greg Elliot?). I doubt that Bates is coming for the simple reason he has held off for so long and I do not understand why he would not have made a decision yet if Marquette as his choice.

I could see 0-2 additions and 1-3 departures. The only place I think Garcia goes is the NBA.

[MU82]

Garcia is gone

Based on ...

Not doubting you at all, Unk, just wondering what convinced you to say something so definitive.

[BCHoopster]

Garcia is not rated in the Top 100 picks of the NBA draft, Mamu is about 60 so he may not be drafted.  Houser about 74 Luke Garcia may or may not be drafted. Garcia may transfer out but he would be smart to go back to college somewhere. Makes total sense to comeback.  Team looks to better next year, that will help.  Lots of excitement with new coach.

[Uncle Rico]

Based on ...

Not doubting you at all, Unk, just wondering what convinced you to say something so definitive.

I have no insider information whatsoever.  Just a gut feeling

[We R Final Four]

Right now, my guess would be

Carton
Mitchell
Ellis
Lewis
Garcia

But as Fluffy said, I think the roster is far from finished

I saw an interview with SS where he said Ellis is young/raw but will be a great player. Based upon that, I would think Jop for Ellis. But who knows....as SS has said we're not done yet!

[keefe]

I have no insider information whatsoever.  Just a gut feeling

Well, no shame in not being connected. Fact is no one on Scoop has any actual insight. At least you are honest about it!

[MU82]

I have no insider information whatsoever.  Just a gut feeling

Thanks, Unk. I hope your gut is wrong this time! Might be right, though.

As Crash said, nobody on Scoop actually knows nuttin' about what Garcia will or won't do. Soon enough, we'll see.

[keefe]

Thanks, Unk. I hope your gut is wrong this time! Might be right, though.

As Crash said, nobody on Scoop actually knows nuttin' about what Garcia will or won't do. Soon enough, we'll see.

My gut says he's coming back. Question is to where?

But what the hell do I know?

[GoldenWarrior11]

As an underclassman, unless you are guaranteed to go in the top-40, there is so much risk in leaving early (unless you are in poor academic standing and/or have zero interest in going to class).  In the NBA, many 2nd round picks go to foreign projects that have little chance of making the NBA, and teams rather not spend money on guaranteed roster spots.  In addition, if you do leave early, you want as much opportunity to go to an organization that will help you develop (in order to get paid more down the road).  Go to the wrong team as an UDFA, and you have little room to excel beyond that.

The fact Dawson is not even being listed in many mock drafts as even a 2nd Rounder gives little optimism that he'd find a strong opportunity this Summer.  Overseas opportunities have their own issues due to COVID.

The biggest concern regarding Dawson would have been him going into the transfer portal, which he hasn't.  With so many programs quickly filling spots, and Minnesota (with McNeilly) acquiring A&M talent (likely), the odds grow by the day he returns next year (especially with a staff as proven with bigs as Shaka and Co.).

No one has inside knowledge, but it isn't rocket science to figure out what the best pathway forward for him in the NBA would be.

[Scoop Snoop]

As an underclassman, unless you are guaranteed to go in the top-40, there is so much risk in leaving early (unless you are in poor academic standing and/or have zero interest in going to class).  In the NBA, many 2nd round picks go to foreign projects that have little chance of making the NBA, and teams rather not spend money on guaranteed roster spots.  In addition, if you do leave early, you want as much opportunity to go to an organization that will help you develop (in order to get paid more down the road).  Go to the wrong team as an UDFA, and you have little room to excel beyond that.

The fact Dawson is not even being listed in many mock drafts as even a 2nd Rounder gives little optimism that he'd find a strong opportunity this Summer.  Overseas opportunities have their own issues due to COVID.

The biggest concern regarding Dawson would have been him going into the transfer portal, which he hasn't.  With so many programs quickly filling spots, and Minnesota (with McNeilly) acquiring A&M talent (likely), the odds grow by the day he returns next year (especially with a staff as proven with bigs as Shaka and Co.).

No one has inside knowledge, but it isn't rocket science to figure out what the best pathway forward for him in the NBA would be.

Logical, rational posts like this take all the fun out of a thread. Anybody who can come up with a wild, unsubstantiated rumor to make this subject more interesting?

[muwarrior69]

Logical, rational posts like this take all the fun out of a thread. Anybody who can come up with a wild, unsubstantiated rumor to make this subject more interesting?

Garcia to Texas.

[Uncle Rico]

As an underclassman, unless you are guaranteed to go in the top-40, there is so much risk in leaving early (unless you are in poor academic standing and/or have zero interest in going to class).  In the NBA, many 2nd round picks go to foreign projects that have little chance of making the NBA, and teams rather not spend money on guaranteed roster spots.  In addition, if you do leave early, you want as much opportunity to go to an organization that will help you develop (in order to get paid more down the road).  Go to the wrong team as an UDFA, and you have little room to excel beyond that.

The fact Dawson is not even being listed in many mock drafts as even a 2nd Rounder gives little optimism that he'd find a strong opportunity this Summer.  Overseas opportunities have their own issues due to COVID.

The biggest concern regarding Dawson would have been him going into the transfer portal, which he hasn't.  With so many programs quickly filling spots, and Minnesota (with McNeilly) acquiring A&M talent (likely), the odds grow by the day he returns next year (especially with a staff as proven with bigs as Shaka and Co.).

No one has inside knowledge, but it isn't rocket science to figure out what the best pathway forward for him in the NBA would be.

It's a changing world.  What we think is the best path for Dawson Garcia may not actually be the best path.  I'm not wholly convinced these kids coming back to college is the best path.