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The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 25, 2021, 08:18:03 AM
persecuted?  only you would think that, but the short answer is nope

so, you have 2 prospective/incoming students sitting in front of you-one has a BLM shirt on, the other has an ALM shirt on.  do you tell the one with the ALM shirt on that he's stupid and misguided? 

I wouldn't tell anyone they are stupid and misguided.  Especially college students who don't have wisdom or perspective.

But you should. Yet tHe funniest thing is, YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.  Saying ALM in response se to BLM is like saying "all lives matter" at a Holocaust memorial. At best it is intentionally minimizing the topic at hand.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

brewcity77

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 25, 2021, 08:18:03 AM
persecuted?  only you would think that, but the short answer is nope

Forget the BS hypotheticals. The reality is you're using a phrase in your username to try to mute black voices. You have had the reasons that action is problematic fully explained. You could abandon this course and move on, or make yourself look worse by continuing to dig.

rocket surgeon

You guys are twisted.  Like budajig redefine infrastructure . You guys are redefining racism  ALL lives man!  Not just black lives. Asian, Hispanic, Romanian, Turkish European...ALL LIVES. Everyone is treated the same with respect if they so deserve.it's racist to put one ahead of other because of race which is what BLM does



BLM as an organization can go to hell
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

brewcity77

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 25, 2021, 09:10:17 AMNot just black lives.

BLM as an organization can go to hell

These are the only salient parts of your post, and clearly reflect your true feelings. The rest is just BS obfuscation to make yourself feel better.

cheebs09

To me it's less about the words and more about the meaning. Yes, all lives matter. But the people saying ALM seem to be doing it as a way to ignore the issues BLM (the movement, not the organization) are trying to raise.

real chili 83

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 25, 2021, 08:44:11 AM
Forget the BS hypotheticals. The reality is you're using a phrase in your username to try to mute black voices. You have had the reasons that action is problematic fully explained. You could abandon this course and move on, or make yourself look worse by continuing to dig.

Alan, how the he'll do you know that's what's in his mind, or that's his intent?  You don't. 

Your comments are judgemental, overreaching, and not terribly inclusive. Your lens has become so narrowly focused, you are absolutely intolerant of others who try to express support for diversity and inclusion simply with different words.  I get it, you also don't like Rocket, and you let that cloud any objectivity you could have.

I'll sit back now and take my on line beating from the so-called tolerant Woke Folk. People who don't know me, and will condemn me without knowing a thing about how I live my life.

4everwarriors

Great, let's even the playing field starting tomorrow and base everything on merit and not race. I still say God screwed up and we should all look like Waldo. Sure would eliminate many of the world's problems, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: real chili 83 on April 25, 2021, 09:22:11 AM

Alan, how the he'll do you know that's what's in his mind, or that's his intent?  You don't. 

Your comments are judgemental, overreaching, and not terribly inclusive. Your lens has become so narrowly focused, you are absolutely intolerant of others who try to express support for diversity and inclusion simply with different words.  I get it, you also don't like Rocket, and you let that cloud any objectivity you could have.

I'll sit back now and take my on line beating from the so-called tolerant Woke Folk. People who don't know me, and will condemn me without knowing a thing about how I live my life.

Do you carry your cross too?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 25, 2021, 09:22:36 AM
Great, let's even the playing field starting tomorrow and base everything on merit and not race. I still say God screwed up and we should all look like Waldo. Sure would eliminate many of the world's problems, aina?

Yep. Hope we can get there someday. Likely not in my lifetime.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

real chili 83


brewcity77

Quote from: real chili 83 on April 25, 2021, 09:22:11 AM

Alan, how the he'll do you know that's what's in his mind, or that's his intent?  You don't. 

Your comments are judgemental, overreaching, and not terribly inclusive. Your lens has become so narrowly focused, you are absolutely intolerant of others who try to express support for diversity and inclusion simply with different words.

I know what's in his mind because he has told us repeatedly. I know his intent because when the problematic nature of his comments is explained, he doesn't take responsibility, he doubles down.

And yes, I am judgmental of bigotry because I don't believe white silence is helpful. For that reason, I am intolerant of said bigotry.

In addition, trying to mute voices is the antithesis of diversity and inclusion. It's like saying "I don't see color" which is about as anti-diversity as it gets.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

Quote from: naginiF on April 25, 2021, 08:31:14 AM
How old are the students? >18 yrs old? Try to enlighten them as to why the philosophy of ALM with respect to BLM is racist and if, like you, they still refuse to understand I'd tell him he's stupid and misguided. <18? Same conversation but with their parents.

"...and like you, they still REFUSE to understand..."???


  what is that right there?  sounds like...there are veys, and there are other veys, eyn'a?   you guys are not only racists but bullys as well
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 25, 2021, 09:41:39 AM
"...and like you, they still REFUSE to understand..."???


  what is that right there?  sounds like...there are veys, and there are other veys, eyn'a?   you guys are not only racists but bullys as well

Lol.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 25, 2021, 09:37:25 AM
I know what's in his mind because he has told us repeatedly. I know his intent because when the problematic nature of his comments is explained, he doesn't take responsibility, he doubles down.

And yes, I am judgmental of bigotry because I don't believe white silence is helpful. For that reason, I am intolerant of said bigotry.

In addition, trying to mute voices is the antithesis of diversity and inclusion. It's like saying "I don't see color" which is about as anti-diversity as it gets.

  i see ALL colors dude!  that's what you don't get.  God didn't put us here to judge ANYONE based on "color" 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

real chili 83

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 25, 2021, 09:37:25 AM
I know what's in his mind because he has told us repeatedly. I know his intent because when the problematic nature of his comments is explained, he doesn't take responsibility, he doubles down.

And yes, I am judgmental of bigotry because I don't believe white silence is helpful. For that reason, I am intolerant of said bigotry.

In addition, trying to mute voices is the antithesis of diversity and inclusion. It's like saying "I don't see color" which is about as anti-diversity as it gets.

You just made my point. You don't know him, and how he lives his life.

We can argue this till the cows come home. Until I meet you, I will hold opinion on judging you, but your actions show a narrowly focused lens.

Because Rocket may say he doesn't see color, that could NEVER mean color is not an issue for him with how he treats people.  It could NEVER mean that because he chose words that you would not use to express support for D&I, he must be wrong.

Brew, you simply don't know.

#UnleashSean


MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 25, 2021, 09:22:36 AM
I still say God screwed up and we should all look like Waldo. Sure would eliminate many of the world's problems, aina?

Waldo's an interesting choice ... almost impossible to get much whiter than that.

I'd have thought you might have said Jesus ... but given that he was far closer to Black or mixed race, I guess Waldo it is.

Sad that Jesus probably would be pulled over for a minor violation, screamed at to get out of his car and, at gunpoint, told to lie facedown in the street. Might even get a knee on his neck for 9 minutes if he objected at all.

"We had to do it," the arresting officer said. "Guy had a god complex."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 25, 2021, 09:37:25 AM
I know his intent because when the problematic nature of his comments is explained, he doesn't take responsibility, he doubles down.

You mean y'all have tried to enlighten him to the one and only opinion allowed and he STILL isn't genuflecting?!?

Yeah, that's some nerve Alan.

MuggsyB

Quote from: cheebs09 on April 25, 2021, 09:16:47 AM
To me it's less about the words and more about the meaning. Yes, all lives matter. But the people saying ALM seem to be doing it as a way to ignore the issues BLM (the movement, not the organization) are trying to raise.

Just so I understand your point of view:   If you say "ALM" or something to deflect attention from the literal phrase "Black Lives Matter" it is problematic and or racist like many have stated on this thread?  However, if you criticize the BLM organization that may in fact not be a problem or racist?  I just want to be clear on your point here. Ty.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 25, 2021, 07:02:01 AM
You should probably read the Bible more carefully.

Right, The Gospel According to Woke Liberals. 

naginiF

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 25, 2021, 09:41:39 AM
"...and like you, they still REFUSE to understand..."???


  what is that right there?  sounds like...there are veys, and there are other veys, eyn'a?   you guys are not only racists but bullys as well
If the shirt said something else that the person didn't realize was bigoted like 'blood and soil' or 'Dan White Society', you explained why the slogan is problematic, and they continued to wear the shirt because they don't see a problem with it then yes......they REFUSE to understand.

HutchwasClutch

#674
One of Jaslyn Adams murderers was apprehended.  But the race baiters, BLM,  and the woke crowd won't touch this story no matter how common, sick, and depraved it is. 

https://www.daily-journal.com/opinion/jackson-wheres-the-spectacle-for-jaslyn-adams/article_efb144b6-a41d-11eb-ab27-3729a8344cdf.html

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