5 best MU pure PG's?

[4everwarriors]

You're not as old as I thought you were.

Mandy wuz der befour me, hey?

[Jockey]

Meminger ... Walton ... Worthen ... Miller ... Diener ... James

That's 6, and that's fine with me. Loved 'em all.

The "pure" PG discussion is kind of silly. Not sure why a "pure" PG can't score, too.

Tony Smith was good enough to play in the NBA for 9 years. I think Meminger and Worthen were clearly the 2 best. I'd put Smith 3rd. Then Miller and Diener in some order for 4th and 5th.

[Herman Cain]

Allie McGuire.

Discuss.

[bilsu]

I love Travis, but as a "pure" PG I'd put Tony first. Travis was more of a scoring PG, Tony a floor general. The dude averaged almost 8 assists per game for his career, in KO's grinding system.

Travis could have played as an off guard, Tony could only be a PG.

Travis made the NBA and Miller did not.
Meminger and Walton made the NBA and Worthen did not.
Best freshmen point guard was Dominic James, but he seemed to regress after his freshmen year.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Meminger ... Walton ... Worthen ... Miller ... Diener ... James

That's 6, and that's fine with me. Loved 'em all.

The "pure" PG discussion is kind of silly. Not sure why a "pure" PG can't score, too.

My favorite PG was Blanton Simmons. Loved his cross over dribble.

[MU82]

Allie McGuire.

Discuss.

Not one of the top 5. Or 6.

[GooooMarquette]

Not one of the top 5. Or 6.

Also more of a shooter than a PG.

[harryp]

I was a season ticket in 76' and ' 77 ( and before and after) and Dean was the greatest.Especially at the end of the game, whoever was fouled, Al would send Dean to the line, and he rarely missed. A great player who met a tragic end.  Sad.

[Goose]

Newsdreams

If you feel younger than me, you have a great life. Like many out there, I truly believe that I am still twenty years younger than my actual age. I have little intention of ever acting, and hopefully not looking, my age.

[CTWarrior]

Travis made the NBA and Miller did not.
Meminger and Walton made the NBA and Worthen did not.
Best freshmen point guard was Dominic James, but he seemed to regress after his freshmen year.

Worthen played for two seasons in the NBA, albeit as a bit player.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I was a season ticket in 76' and ' 77 ( and before and after) and Dean was the greatest.Especially at the end of the game, whoever was fouled, Al would send Dean to the line, and he rarely missed. A great player who met a tragic end.  Sad.

Are you thinking of Butch Lee in '76 and '77?  Butch was a 85% career free throw shooter.

Dean played in '68-'71 and was a .647% free throw shooter. So, he missed over a third of his free throws. Is free throw % one of the criteria for a great PG? JayBee is circling.

That said, Dean was a great player at the start of Al's great run. He did indeed have a tragic end. Certainly a top 5 MU PG.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Let's try this. Best "pure PG" by coach as defined by their best year as PG (versus who recruited them). Combo guards don't qualify.

Here are mine:

Al: Dean
Hank: Sam the Sham
Rick: Mandy
Piano: Pop Sims
KO: Tony Miller
Deane O: Hutch
Crean: Diener
Buzz: Dom, senior year
Wojo: Senior year Rowsey

[swoopem]

I was a season ticket in 76' and ' 77 ( and before and after) and Dean was the greatest.Especially at the end of the game, whoever was fouled, Al would send Dean to the line, and he rarely missed. A great player who met a tragic end.  Sad.

What does "whoever was fouled, Al would send Dean to the line" mean?

I wasn't around back then but I highly doubt that if Chones was fouled Dean was able to shoot the free throws???

[keefe]

Marcus Jackson

F#cking great, man!

[keefe]

Mandy could not dribble to save his life but sure could play D. Had a lot of classes with Mandy and enjoyed hanging with him.

Yes, but did you drink with him?

[Goose]

keefe

Mandy preferred other methods to relax back in the day.

[keefe]

Allie McGuire.

Discuss.

As Al famously replied when asked why he was starting Allie, "Because I sleep with his mother."

A name not yet mentioned that should be is Marcus Washington. Wash was the captain of the 74 National Championship game team that lost to NC State which had David Thomson, Burleson, Towe.

He was also involved in one of the best Al stories. He and Delsman got into it at a practice and when Al tried to break it up Wash stepped aside but Delsman remained fired up and ended up brawling with Al. 

[keefe]

keefe

Mandy preferred other methods to relax back in the day.

He was from the Oliver Lee School of Relaxation Theory?

[Newsdreams]

Newsdreams

If you feel younger than me, you have a great life. Like many out there, I truly believe that I am still twenty years younger than my actual age. I have little intention of ever acting, and hopefully not looking, my age.

Excellent that is the way....

[oldwarrior81]

back in the day game goals/targets were set for the players. One of Mandy's was holding the opposing PG to more than 5 points below his scoring average.
The player that achieved the most was allowed to choose the restaurant for the weekly team meal.

And when Mandy won he always picked Red Lobster.

Must have been viewed as the go to spot in Jersey City.

[keefe]

Red Lobster.

I just learned of a tragic Covid Casualty: No Name's in Old Seaport, Boston.

Their lobster roll was sublime.