Shaka's Bar: 5 Year Yah-ka expectations

[1SE]

Go on record now. What bar would Shaka need to fall short of for you to be on the Nah-ka wagon in 5 years (Patience FFS)?

The permutations of different success are pretty huge, but I've tried to capture different "levels" of success. Add your own different criteria below.

For me, in 5 years, we need to be Buzz- at least - otherwise we're going to be almost 15 years without notable post-season success. That would be unacceptable.

[WarriorFan]

My expectations for MU basketball have never changed:
- almost always in the top 25
- Always in the NCAA tournament
- 1-2 wins in NCAA tournament each year, with occasional "better" runs
- Win the Big East tournament when it's your only chance to get in the big dance
- Clean program
- fun to watch

[muwarrior69]

Right now I would settle with just putting a team out there that knows fundamental basketball with a winning attitude.

[avid1010]

Scholl said it best...make the NCAA most years and occasionally make a run...be in the top half of the BEAST...have a clean program.   

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Right now I would settle with just putting a team out there that knows fundamental basketball with a winning attitude.

This is how I feel.

[willie warrior]

My expectations for MU basketball have never changed:
- almost always in the top 25
- Always in the NCAA tournament
- 1-2 wins in NCAA tournament each year, with occasional "better" runs
- Win the Big East tournament when it's your only chance to get in the big dance
- Clean program
- fun to watch

Pretty good expectations, possibly a bit higher

[Scoop Snoop]

Right now I would settle with just putting a team out there that knows fundamental basketball with a winning attitude.

Yep. I did not vote- it's too soon and we need to see who Shaka has and what he plans to do, but you are spot on. Get the bleepin' fundamentals down and play with confidence based upon an actual plan, not just trying to figure it out while on court. 

[Uncle Rico]

Natty or bust

[naginiF]

- NCAA most years with NIT on the off year: shows there is a quality product on the floor but gives room for young team/injuries/odd slump
- occasional deep run: allows for the 'crap shoot' aspect of the tourney (but whoo-boy if we get bounced the first game he's in the tourney with us this joint is gonna be LIT)
- top half of the BEast mixed with a heavy dose of top 3: we only have 3 conference championships in 30 years (1:15 in BE) so I think competing every year is a stretch
- 1 'magical' run every 8-10 years: FF or lose a heartbreaker in E8
- clean program: listed last because it is a given

[Goose]

My expectations:

1. That nobody on here ever has to show the Kenpom rankings to build a case on why we are a bubble team or if we win 4 of the last five we can be a six seed.
2. The "What are ranked on Monday?" thread is on the first page of scoop every week of the Shaka era.
3. That we are favored the first two NCAA games far more times than we are not.
4. If I cannot use tickets to a game, that there actually are people that would like to use them, even on a cold Tuesday night against DePaul.
5. That Marquette University benefits to the full extent on what being a basketball school can bring to the table.
6. The Meat Summits are spent talking current state of the program vs. what happened nearly a half century ago.
7. Lastly, and high on my list, that everyone here knows when the team/program passes the eye test. When a team/program is playing at a high level all you have to do is watch the game to know how they stack up. Prime example is DWade. No one needed computer stats to know he was the best of all time at a high level basketball school.

For a wish item, I hope that Shaka can be a great influence and leader for the city of MKE. MKE needs help and Shaka/MU can be great role models to help bring the city to a better place.

[pacearrow02]

- NCAA most years with NIT on the off year: shows there is a quality product on the floor but gives room for young team/injuries/odd slump
- occasional deep run: allows for the 'crap shoot' aspect of the tourney (but whoo-boy if we get bounced the first game he's in the tourney with us this joint is gonna be LIT)
- top half of the BEast mixed with a heavy dose of top 3: we only have 3 conference championships in 30 years (1:15 in BE) so I think competing every year is a stretch
- 1 'magical' run every 8-10 years: FF or lose a heartbreaker in E8
- clean program: listed last because it is a given

👏👏realistic and solid list!!

[dgies9156]

Come on. We are Marquette.

Every year participant in the NCAA is a minimum standard.
Contender for the Big East regular season title.
Win the Big East tournament.
Consistently in the Top 10.
Destroy the rodent every year.
Kick ass and take no prisoners on the floor (and laugh while we do it).
A natty or two.

A couple of other things would be nice, like never losing at home and packing the computing castle.

That is the standard that makes Marquette who we are. Anything else does not matter.

[willie warrior]

Come on. We are Marquette.

Every year participant in the NCAA is a minimum standard.
Contender for the Big East regular season title.
Win the Big East tournament.
Consistently in the Top 10.
Destroy the rodent every year.
Kick ass and take no prisoners on the floor (and laugh while we do it).
A natty or two.

A couple of other things would be nice, like never losing at home and packing the computing castle.

That is the standard that makes Marquette who we are. Anything else does not matter.

This is even better, and one that we must aspire to. Is not this why Shaka Kahn was hired? Great aspirations.

[1SE]

My expectations:

1. That nobody on here ever has to show the Kenpom rankings to build a case on why we are a bubble team or if we win 4 of the last five we can be a six seed.
2. The "What are ranked on Monday?" thread is on the first page of scoop every week of the Shaka era.
3. That we are favored the first two NCAA games far more times than we are not.
4. If I cannot use tickets to a game, that there actually are people that would like to use them, even on a cold Tuesday night against DePaul.
5. That Marquette University benefits to the full extent on what being a basketball school can bring to the table.
6. The Meat Summits are spent talking current state of the program vs. what happened nearly a half century ago.
7. Lastly, and high on my list, that everyone here knows when the team/program passes the eye test. When a team/program is playing at a high level all you have to do is watch the game to know how they stack up. Prime example is DWade. No one needed computer stats to know he was the best of all time at a high level basketball school.

For a wish item, I hope that Shaka can be a great influence and leader for the city of MKE. MKE needs help and Shaka/MU can be great role models to help bring the city to a better place.

I like that as a program barometer.

[MU82]

My expectations:

1. That nobody on here ever has to show the Kenpom rankings to build a case on why we are a bubble team or if we win 4 of the last five we can be a six seed.
2. The "What are ranked on Monday?" thread is on the first page of scoop every week of the Shaka era.
3. That we are favored the first two NCAA games far more times than we are not.
4. If I cannot use tickets to a game, that there actually are people that would like to use them, even on a cold Tuesday night against DePaul.
5. That Marquette University benefits to the full extent on what being a basketball school can bring to the table.
6. The Meat Summits are spent talking current state of the program vs. what happened nearly a half century ago.
7. Lastly, and high on my list, that everyone here knows when the team/program passes the eye test. When a team/program is playing at a high level all you have to do is watch the game to know how they stack up. Prime example is DWade. No one needed computer stats to know he was the best of all time at a high level basketball school.

For a wish item, I hope that Shaka can be a great influence and leader for the city of MKE. MKE needs help and Shaka/MU can be great role models to help bring the city to a better place.

Love this list, Goose.

And I'll take those DePaul tickets! Thanks in advance!!

[Galway Eagle]

Beat ND and UW more often and not.

Put an emphasis on continuing the restart of the ND series

[Goose]

82

You are banned from my tickets for year one due to promoting a fifth year for Theo.

[swoopem]

I posted this in another thread but I’ve already made bets with some friends that we’ll make the final 4 in the first 5 years. I like my chances

Expectations are that we make the tournament every year and we make the second weekend or beyond every couple of years. I think that’s very realistic. Basically get back to what we were pre Wojo

[MU82]

82

You are banned from my tickets for year one due to promoting a fifth year for Theo.

Interesting that you don't believe Theo would be a good 9th or 10th man on a Shaka-coached team; I'm guessing Shaka would disagree strongly with you.

But I obviously accept your "punishment," as they are your tickets to give away. We'll be a better team in 2022-23 anyway, so ... Mrs. 82 and I accept!

[naginiF]

This is even better, and one that we must aspire to. Is not this why Shaka Kahn was hired? Great aspirations.

We, collectively, get wrapped around the axel on aspirations vs expectations. 100% agree with  dgies list as aspirations but you're going to be disappointed if that is your expectation.

[Goose]

82

If Theo comes back as a tenth man, I am all in. I have always been a fan of a nine man rotation.

[hairy worthen]

82

If Theo comes back as a tenth man, I am all in. I have always been a fan of a nine man rotation.

Love this and my sentiments exactly.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My expectations for MU basketball have never changed:
- almost always in the top 25
- Always in the NCAA tournament
- 1-2 wins in NCAA tournament each year, with occasional "better" runs
- Win the Big East tournament when it's your only chance to get in the big dance
- Clean program
- fun to watch

So you've never been satisfied huh?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think the correct terms are smarties and dummies

[hairy worthen]

My expectations:

1. That nobody on here ever has to show the Kenpom rankings to build a case on why we are a bubble team or if we win 4 of the last five we can be a six seed.
2. The "What are ranked on Monday?" thread is on the first page of scoop every week of the Shaka era.
3. That we are favored the first two NCAA games far more times than we are not.
4. If I cannot use tickets to a game, that there actually are people that would like to use them, even on a cold Tuesday night against DePaul.
5. That Marquette University benefits to the full extent on what being a basketball school can bring to the table.
6. The Meat Summits are spent talking current state of the program vs. what happened nearly a half century ago.
7. Lastly, and high on my list, that everyone here knows when the team/program passes the eye test. When a team/program is playing at a high level all you have to do is watch the game to know how they stack up. Prime example is DWade. No one needed computer stats to know he was the best of all time at a high level basketball school.

For a wish item, I hope that Shaka can be a great influence and leader for the city of MKE. MKE needs help and Shaka/MU can be great role models to help bring the city to a better place.

#1 and 2 in particular are dead on for me. I always found it annoying when some posters got excited when a team we beat in December won a game in Feb so our rankings would go up. Hell of a low bar to get excited about.

I was ambivalent at first about the Shaka hire, but your enthusiasm has given me hope.