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rocky_warrior

No - not a thread saying we should hire him (but we should!).

Just another "easy" sweet 16 with one of your best guards hurt.  Wow.

I can only hope MU gets to this point one day.  Wright HAS to be the best college coach today, right?  Doing better than K, Cal, and Roy the past few years.  Mostly reloading without 1 and done's.  Gets everyone to buy in and just wins.  Amazing. 

edit: and for the record "superbar", but I said we should hire him.

MuggsyB

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2021, 09:47:25 PM
No - not a thread saying we should hire him (but we should!).

Just another "easy" sweet 16 with one of your best guards hurt.  Wow.

I can only hope MU gets to this point one day.  Wright HAS to be the best college coach today, right?  Doing better than K, Cal, and Roy the past few years.  Mostly reloading without 1 and done's.  Gets everyone to buy in and just wins.  Amazing.

He and Few have separated themselves.  And Wright is the clear #1. 

Herman Cain

MU has to be able to be consistently make it to the upper echelon of the Big East. Nova and Wright demo state year in and year out the standard that needs to be met.

The good news is our new coach can get us to that level.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 21, 2021, 09:50:58 PM
He and Few have separated themselves.  And Wright is the clear #1.

Few has no P6 experience, so I'd pass. Wright would be acceptable.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Pakuni

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 21, 2021, 09:53:46 PM
Few has no P6 experience, so I'd pass. Wright would be acceptable.

Wright has spent his entire career on the East Coast. No Midwestern ties.
Pass.

rocky_warrior

Harsh, but I can't really judge Few until he takes on tougher competition on a consistent basis.

He's got a good gig, and does well at it though!

MuggsyB

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 21, 2021, 09:53:46 PM
Few has no P6 experience, so I'd pass. Wright would be acceptable.

Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight years.  I'd take that.

Mr. Nielsen

North Texas looked very good to start the game. 21-13.

No fear. Jay Wright is near.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Jockey

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 21, 2021, 09:53:46 PM
Few has no P6 experience, so I'd pass. Wright would be acceptable.

Yeah, and Few can't recruit either.  ::)

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 21, 2021, 09:58:28 PM
No fear. Jay Wright is near.

Seriously, I'd trust him to coach a game on his phone from a campground.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2021, 10:00:14 PM
Seriously, I'd trust him to coach a game on his phone from a campground.

I never thought Winthrop was going to beat Villanova. Too many picked Winthrop. Never happens that way. Villanova had over a weeks rest after the loss to Georgetown. Work on things in New York. Jay Wright was going to get these guys going. If they hit the three, like they did tonight, they can beat Baylor.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: Jockey on March 21, 2021, 09:59:46 PM
Yeah, and Few can't recruit either.  ::)

Well, since you brought it up, he has never recruited for a P6 program.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

rocky_warrior

#12
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 21, 2021, 10:07:28 PM
Well, since you brought it up, he has never recruited for a P6 program.

Or from most US states.  ;)

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 21, 2021, 10:06:08 PM
I never thought Winthrop was going to beat Villanova.

Agreed, Nova was going to win that game.  And you could say they lucked into facing a worse seed in the 2nd round.  But my point stands.  I Hope MU can get to the point that it can get a good enough seeds to earn "easy" S16's - with a main player hurt.

HIRE JAY WRIGHT!

Heisenberg

He did not win his first NCAA tournament game until his 11th season as a head coach.
If MU hired him, would we have given him this much rope to figure it out? 

Or would have the paint touches/anonymous/cracked of the day ran him out of town after seven years?

1994–95   Hofstra   10–18   5–11   9th   
1995–96   Hofstra   9–18   5–12   T–7th   
1996–97   Hofstra   12–15   9–9   4th   
1997–98   Hofstra   19–12   11–7   T–3rd   
1998–99   Hofstra   22–10   14–4   3rd   NIT First Round
1999–00   Hofstra   24–7   16–2   1st   NCAA Division I First Round
2000–01   Hofstra   26–5   16–2   1st   NCAA Division I First Round
Villanova Wildcats (Big East Conference[a]) (2001–present)
2001–02   Villanova   19–13   7–9   5th   NIT Quarterfinal
2002–03   Villanova   15–16   8–8   T–3rd   NIT First Round
2003–04   Villanova   18–17   6–10   11th   NIT Quarterfinal
2004–05   Villanova   24–8   11–5   T–3rd   NCAA Division I Sweet 16
2005–06   Villanova   28–5   14–2   T–1st   NCAA Division I Elite Eight

rocky_warrior

For Wojo's sake - I hope he can be as successful as Wright.  But that's water under the bridge.

Hopefully MU hires & keeps a guy that can be as good or better than Wright.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 21, 2021, 10:06:08 PM
I never thought Winthrop was going to beat Villanova. Too many picked Winthrop. Never happens that way. Villanova had over a weeks rest after the loss to Georgetown. Work on things in New York. Jay Wright was going to get these guys going. If they hit the three, like they did tonight, they can beat Baylor.

The problem is Nova won't get open threes.  Baylor's guards are quicker.  J-R-E will need to have a big game and Nova will have to take care of the ball. 

Heisenberg

Would you be happy with Kevin Willard?
Seton Hall was smart enough to not can him after six seasons.

2010–11   13–17   7–11   12th   
2011–12   21–13   8–10   10th   NIT Second Round
2012–13   15–18   3–15   13th   
2013–14   17–17   6–12   8th   
2014–15   16–15   6–12   T–7th   
2015–16   25–9    12–6   3rd   NCAA Round of 64

After six seasons ...

After Willard's first six seasons ....

2016–17   21–12   10–8   T–3rd   NCAA Round of 64
2017–18   22–12   10–8   T–3rd   NCAA Round of 32
2018–19   20–14   9–9   T–3rd   NCAA Round of 64
2019–20   21–9      13–5   T-1st   NCAA Canceled

naginiF

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2021, 09:47:25 PM
Wright HAS to be the best college coach today, right? 

Without a doubt. If this was NovaScoop and you could hand the reigns over to any one for the next 10 years the list would be:
1962 John Wooden
1997 Jim Calhoun
1997 Coach K
2009 Calipari (maybe)
1970 Al

probably a few dead coaches I've missed but no-one alive with a resume like the last 6 years, with no NCAA issues, and what looks like a program that will sustain for the foreseeable future.

Heisenberg

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2021, 10:15:08 PM
For Wojo's sake - I hope he can be as successful as Wright.  But that's water under the bridge.

Hopefully MU hires & keeps a guy that can be as good or better than Wright.

MU needs to hire some with at least 10 to 15 years of experience so they have already "figure out out" on someone else's dime.

Someone like that is 77 miles south of campus, not in Cleveland.

MUeng

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 21, 2021, 10:06:08 PM
I never thought Winthrop was going to beat Villanova. Too many picked Winthrop. Never happens that way. Villanova had over a weeks rest after the loss to Georgetown. Work on things in New York. Jay Wright was going to get these guys going. If they hit the three, like they did tonight, they can beat Baylor.
Nova is heating up a bit, but Baylor looked damn good today. So quick and they are even better from the 3. Wright is truly amazing though so they could keep it close

JWags85

Wright calmly saying "Bang" as Jenkins took the title winning 3 in 2016 was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.  What a BAMF

WarriorFan

What I like about Wright is that he has a style of play, and he almost always has upperclassmen and Freshmen who fit the specific roles that are required in that style:

Arcadiacono - Brunson - Gillespie
Paschall - Spellman - Bey - Robinson-Earl
Pinkston - Jenkins - Bridges - Samuels

Clear roles and clear succession. 
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

MU82

#22
Within all of his trolling, Smuggles actually does make a point that would seem to favor Moser.

It took Wright a while to get Hofstra going. Meanwhile, Villanova had become a Big East also-ran under Steve Lappas, going to NITs or suffering first-round NCAA defeats year after year.

Jay took over for Lappas and built Nova into a S16 team within 4 years. There were hiccups after that, and it wasn't always smooth sailing as some might think -- most notably, Wright won 3 NCAAT games in the 6 tournaments between 2010-15, leading many Nova fans wondering if he'd ever get them to the promised land -- but they are a finely tuned basketball machine now.

It's easy to argue that he is the best coach in the country today.

Could Moser be our Wright? That's asking a lot. For one thing, Wright was 40 when he took over at Nova and Moser is already 53. But the idea that Moser learned how to coach at a lower level and took some lumps before (mostly) figuring it out, it's a compelling one.

One major difference (besides age): Wright did recruit for Nova and UNLV as an assistant before becoming a head coach. Moser has never recruited that level of athlete. And that's a pretty significant difference.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

avid1010

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 21, 2021, 10:11:25 PM
He did not win his first NCAA tournament game until his 11th season as a head coach.
If MU hired him, would we have given him this much rope to figure it out? 

Or would have the paint touches/anonymous/cracked of the day ran him out of town after seven years?

1994–95   Hofstra   10–18   5–11   9th   
1995–96   Hofstra   9–18   5–12   T–7th   
1996–97   Hofstra   12–15   9–9   4th   
1997–98   Hofstra   19–12   11–7   T–3rd   
1998–99   Hofstra   22–10   14–4   3rd   NIT First Round
1999–00   Hofstra   24–7   16–2   1st   NCAA Division I First Round
2000–01   Hofstra   26–5   16–2   1st   NCAA Division I First Round
Villanova Wildcats (Big East Conference[a]) (2001–present)
2001–02   Villanova   19–13   7–9   5th   NIT Quarterfinal
2002–03   Villanova   15–16   8–8   T–3rd   NIT First Round
2003–04   Villanova   18–17   6–10   11th   NIT Quarterfinal
2004–05   Villanova   24–8   11–5   T–3rd   NCAA Division I Sweet 16
2005–06   Villanova   28–5   14–2   T–1st   NCAA Division I Elite Eight
I would be VERY pleased if we hired a coach from a mid-major and they had these results in their first 5 years. 

2021–22    Marquette  19–13   7–9   5th   NIT Quarterfinal
2022–23    Marquette   15–16   8–8   T–3rd   NIT First Round
2023–24    Marquette   18–17   6–10   11th   NIT Quarterfinal
2024–25    Marquette   24–8   11–5   T–3rd   NCAA Division I Sweet 16
2025–26    Marquette   28–5   14–2   T–1st   NCAA Division I Elite Eight

MU82

Quote from: avid1010 on March 22, 2021, 07:12:17 AM
I would be VERY pleased if we hired a coach from a mid-major and they had these results in their first 5 years. 

2021–22    Marquette  19–13   7–9   5th   NIT Quarterfinal
2022–23    Marquette   15–16   8–8   T–3rd   NIT First Round
2023–24    Marquette   18–17   6–10   11th   NIT Quarterfinal
2024–25    Marquette   24–8   11–5   T–3rd   NCAA Division I Sweet 16
2025–26    Marquette   28–5   14–2   T–1st   NCAA Division I Elite Eight

Me too, avid ... but I wonder how many of our fellow Scoopers would be saying after a third straight NIT and an 18-17 record, "Wow, Coach X is doing a great job for us. I know I'm going to be VERY pleased!"

I'm thinking many (perhaps even the majority) would be saying: "We hired another disaster. Three years and not a single NCAA appearance. Even Wojo got us into the NCAAs in 3 years! This guy is 6 games over .500 after 3 years, and a losing conference record. Better to admit the mistake now. Rip off the Band-Aid and start over. Anybody who disagrees is settling for mediocrity!"
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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