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willie warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2021, 12:03:00 PM
This game is why I didn't think Illinois would escape the first weekend. Loyola looks good, but this is a PERFECT matchup for them. Everything they do is exactly what kills Illinois. Seriously, look at the Haslametrics page:

https://haslametrics.com/ratings2.php?yr=&tid=735

Moser has a good team this year. He had a good team in 2018. What happened in between? What about the rest of his career? He's fine, but behind Smart & Gates, IMO.
C'mon Btew. Smart would be a possibility, but what about his cost, and could he even be attracted here?
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

bradforster

Porter Moser should be the first, second and third call made by Marquette in its search for the next coach.  According to Jeff Goodman Moser "covets" the job.  If he hasn't proven enough with these recent NCAA tourney performances, you simply will never be convinced.  This guy is the real deal and I'd love to see him on the MU sideline!

willie warrior

Quote from: DoctorV on March 21, 2021, 12:18:04 PM
Actually I think I would prefer if the Illini come back and pull off a win because the MU can get on the phone sooner.

Also another super deep run by Loyola would make Moser much more desirable to other programs
If MU admin has any smarts, they are already backchanneling talking to Mosers confidants.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

brewcity77

Quote from: DoctorV on March 21, 2021, 12:16:42 PM
Smart I'll give you.

Gates I don't understand. He had two "good" years, but neither of those were as good as Mosers good years. The volume isn't there and I don't quite get why he's all of a sudden considered an elite can't miss coach. He's not what shaka was when he went to Texas.

Maybe I'm missing something on Gates but I'm not sure what it is I'm missing

We know Gates can recruit. He was a great recruiter at FSU for teams we would love to emulate. Short track record, but his 151-spot improvement in kenpom from year 1 to year 2 is massive.

Like Goose said, I think Moser is perfect for where he's at. I'm not sure he's a HM coach.

Blackhat

Might be a case of "don't overthink it stupid". Hopefully he's not just leaking that to Goodman for a bargaining chip though.

JWags85

Quote from: burger on March 21, 2021, 12:13:57 PM
Getting two assistants that are "great recruiters" and bring an assistant or two that knows his "system and culture"......And you do have a slam dunk......

And those assistants are just hanging on trees?  Dude plays slow down, grind ball (albeit very well coached) and has never coached at the highest level. The assumption that he will just bring in stellar recruiters and great assistants to make the leap is a big stretch.

Every one raving about Moser will be tearing out their hair when all the recruits and talent leave and MU averages 55 pts a game in this first 2 rough years of a rebuild.  Nobody in our system signed up to play UVA style basketball

Goose

brad

Brian Wardle covets the MU job, Tony Barone coveted the MU job, as did Dick Vercase and I am glad MU did not hire any of these guys. There have been countless guys chase this job over the past forty years and there will be more down the line. Hire the best guy when you have a chance.

bradforster

Those guys did covet the job, but they don't have the resume of Porter Moser!  I also think this guy would be in for the long haul.  I don't want to worry about the next coach using us as a "stepping stone."

LastWarrior

Quote from: Goose on March 21, 2021, 12:15:15 PM

I strongly believe that MU might, and I say might, be able to land a much better option this time around. That could change in two days, but right now it sounds that there may be real interest from better options.

Who???
"The Lord is a Warrior" - Exodus 15:3

Stretchdeltsig



NickelDimer

Yes I'm being a bit of a prisoner of the moment, but between watching his adjustments vs Tech and this gameplan/execution today Moser should be our top candidate.

Also for the record if we hire Crean I'm out
No Finish Line

Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 21, 2021, 11:51:07 AM
Honest question: After watching 15 minutes of Loyola vs Illinois do you have any doubt that Moser would coach circles around Wojo?

They may lose, sure - Illinois is loaded AND well coached. But this Loyola team is VERY well coached. Period.

Agree 100%. Loyola players are well coached.

Bad_Reporter

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2021, 12:37:17 PM
Yes I'm being a bit of a prisoner of the moment, but between watching his adjustments vs Tech and this gameplan/execution today Moser should be our top candidate.

Also for the record if we hire Crean I'm out

😂😂

Moser is my pick as well.

burger

Are you guys actually not watching.....What the result of "real coaching" does for whatever talent you have......This is a collection of 3 stars that are giving Illinois everything it can handle......

willie warrior

Quote from: Goose on March 21, 2021, 12:28:25 PM
brad

Brian Wardle covets the MU job, Tony Barone coveted the MU job, as did Dick Vercase and I am glad MU did not hire any of these guys. There have been countless guys chase this job over the past forty years and there will be more down the line. Hire the best guy when you have a chance.
C'mon Goose. Hope that is true but there are not too many reasonable ones out there. Who do you think they would be?
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

PhillyWarrior

Quote from: JWags85 on March 21, 2021, 12:10:23 PM
Yea Illinois is a perfect matchup for them.  This is the same Loyola team that got handled completely by Wisconsin and lost to Richmond.  He's a very good coach, he's not a complete slam dunk
NO one is a complete slam dunk.  NO one is perfect.  We need to be reasonable.

If Stan and Dwayne did all the heavy lifting in terms of recruiting, what did Wojo contribute other than hugging players that underachieved?

Moser or Shaka

NickelDimer

Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 21, 2021, 12:38:42 PM
😂😂

Moser is my pick as well.
Please tell me your info on Crean didn't sound super firm. Please??
No Finish Line

GoldenWarrior11

Moser is a better coach than Smart or Gates, and it isn't even a debate.  Arguing otherwise is great comedy.

Moser would be a grand slam. 

JWags85

How many people drooling over Moser "coveting" the MU job according to second or third hand media sources made fun of Crean and "It's Indiana!"

Blackhat

Only problem with Gates compared to Moser is the lack of track record and final four.

bradforster

There is ZERO chance Marquette brings Crean back.  Z-E-R-O.  Why is anyone worried about that guy coming back?  It's not happening.  Lol

brewcity77

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 21, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
Moser is a better coach than Smart or Gates, and it isn't even a debate.  Arguing otherwise is great comedy.

Moser would be a grand slam.

Determining Moser is a great coach on the basis of 2 good seasons or even 1 good game is also great comedy. What about the last 2 years? What about all the years before the unexpected Final 4 run?

NickelDimer

Quote from: bradforster on March 21, 2021, 12:49:17 PM
There is ZERO chance Marquette brings Crean back.  Z-E-R-O.  Why is anyone worried about that guy coming back?  It's not happening.  Lol
Thank you. This is what I needed to read
No Finish Line

BM1090

Quote from: bradforster on March 21, 2021, 12:49:17 PM
There is ZERO chance Marquette brings Crean back.  Z-E-R-O.  Why is anyone worried about that guy coming back?  It's not happening.  Lol

I don't think it will happen but based on what I've heard it certainly isn't zero percent.

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