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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 21, 2021, 01:44:21 PM
Big East is a big boy league and whoever gets the job is gonna have to get Top 100 guys.  Guess Scholl will have to figure that out.

And Wojo couldn't coach worth a lick.

His current squad sans top 100 recruits could have won our league this year. And if you think he couldn't pull in any top 100's at MU with his track record then I'm not even sure what to say. The difference is, he would look at more than just a player's ranking on some third party service. Team fit and cohesive vision would be the priority. And it would work.

vogue65

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2021, 01:51:22 PM
I can think of a couple million reasons.

Love, loyalty, patience, core values, honesty, academics, realistic expectations, great student athletes parents, got it.

brewcity77

#127
Quote from: shoothoops on March 21, 2021, 01:51:38 PM
Your quote was from December 28, 2020. Your follow up posts continued after that. That's this year just a couple of months ago.

2020 is last year, as we're all acutely aware.

EDIT: and regardless, he's not near the top of my list now, so I don't know why your belaboring this. I've been clear on who I prefer now, which is probably more worthy of discussion than trying to play gotcha with irrelevant old posts.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: BM1090 on March 21, 2021, 01:50:46 PM
Half of America is stupid.


So you knew Loyola was gonna win?

Who are your Final Four?

Pakuni

Quote from: ChitownMoser on March 21, 2021, 01:51:49 PM
Although strangely phrased, I do think this is a fair point.

He knows he can win at Loyola, they will never fire him a la Pat Fitzgerald and I do think he truly likes the school.

Maybe when his kids are older he'll feel differently. But I think the biggest competition for Moser is Loyola themselves.

There are at least a million reasons why Moser would consider leaving Loyola.
Marquette's campus is about 40 minutes from his home, so he wouldn't even need to move the kids. I'm sure Marquette would be happy to set him up with a nice apartment in the city for when he has a late night, but otherwise it's a very easy commute.

brewcity77

Quote from: BM1090 on March 21, 2021, 01:50:46 PM
Half of America is stupid.

This is the correct, and more succinct answer.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: blue and gold on March 21, 2021, 01:48:21 PM
Who's basing the prospect of Porter Moser becoming the MU coach on just 1 game?

In the past 4 seasons including this season, Moser has led Loyola to 3 first place finishes and 1 second place finish in their conference.

During this time period Loyola's conference record was 56-16. Also, Loyola has a record of 6-1 in the NCAA tournament so far for the past 4 seasons.

Precisely.

Shark

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2021, 01:36:00 PM
Half of America made an obviously bad pick. Illinois was never getting out of the first weekend.

When it comes to making picks, I like to use Haslametrics. No site is perfect, but that site is excellent at breaking down strengths and weaknesses. Look at the "curious trends" on the Illinois page.

https://haslametrics.com/ratings2.php?yr=&tid=735

It is basically a description of Loyola. Illinois was always going to struggle in this game because Loyola was going to control the pace. Loyola shoots well and controls the glass. And if LUC had lost to Georgia Tech (which was their more difficult matchup) that meant UI would have to prep for the Tech zone in one day.

I expected to pick Illinois to the Final Four until I saw their draw. As soon as I saw LUC on the 8-line opposite Georgia Tech, I knew it would be a short Tournament in Champaign.

Oh please

Blackhat

Quote from: BM1090 on March 21, 2021, 01:50:46 PM
Half of America is stupid.

You must be fun at parties.  That's a pretty condescending philosophy.

BM1090

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 21, 2021, 01:56:53 PM

So you knew Loyola was gonna win?

Who are your Final Four?

No. But I did pick Illinois to lose in the S16 because they have been a bit inconsistent. And like Brew mentioned, Loyola is a perfect team to take advantage of them.

I also had OSU going to the FF so I get plenty wrong!

My final four outside of OSU is Bama, Houston and Gonzaga, since you asked. Remaining E8 teama are Baylor, Oklahoma St, Houston, Bama, Gonzaga, Michigan and Kansas.

Pakuni

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2021, 01:58:02 PM
This is the correct, and more succinct answer.

Let's see your bet slips, fellas. I presume you all used your superior knowledge to win some easy cash.
Or at least your brackets.

BM1090

Quote from: Blackhat on March 21, 2021, 02:01:15 PM
You must be fun at parties.  That's a pretty condescending philosophy.

It was tongue in cheek. And like I mentioned above, I'm wrong all the time!

Blackhat

Who is brew and MB's final four?  I want to take these certainties to my bookie.

JWags85

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 21, 2021, 01:53:36 PM
His current squad sans top 100 recruits could have won our league this year.

Just stop it. Again, they lost by double digits to Wisconsin in a game they were never in.  They lost to Richmond. They struggled mightily with a meh Indiana St team.

Moser is a very good coach and this Loyola team beats this years Marquette team, absolutely.  But thinking they would consistently beat Nova, Creighton, and UCONN all year is crazy. They likely finish around 4th at best.

Would Ohio have finished near the top of the ACC?

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
There are at least a million reasons why Moser would consider leaving Loyola.
Marquette's campus is about 40 minutes from his home, so he wouldn't even need to move the kids. I'm sure Marquette would be happy to set him up with a nice apartment in the city for when he has a late night, but otherwise it's a very easy commute.

Actually it's 77 miles exactly.  Hmmmm...

MU82

While watching the first half of Loyola-Illinois, I couldn't help but notice how efficient Loyola was on offense, so I decided to track their possessions in the second half. OCD, yes, but whatevs.

Before Illinois started fouling intentionally with about a minute to play, Loyola had 32 possessions.

+ 21 of the 32 resulted in either high-percentage shots or free throws. Of those 21:

++++ 14 resulted in Loyola scores.

++++ 1 was a missed layup on which Loyola got the rebound, got fouled while taking a high-percentage shot and hit 1 of 2 FTs.

++++ 2 missed layups, 3 missed baby hooks by Krutwig, a missed wide-open 3.

Also:

++ 2 possessions that looked doomed were bailed out by Illinois fouls, one drawn on a Rowsey-thing-type move.

++ there were 7 LU turnovers: 3 bad passes, 2 travels, 1 ball batted out of Krutwig's hands, and a terrible charge call.

++ Illinois pressure didn't bother Loyola at all.

++ Raftery: "They're running a clinic out there." ... "They were so well-prepped."

It was a performance that would have been impressive in a January game against Bradley. Coming in an NCAA tournament game, with S16 on the line and facing one of the top 3 teams in the country, "impressive" doesn't cover it very well.

And I haven't even talked about their defense, which caused Illinois fits most of the game.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

muwarrior69

Quote from: Blackhat on March 21, 2021, 01:42:24 PM
It's not that simple. Recruits also take into account relationships with coaches, facilities, conference, education.

LOL!

Blackhat

Fine replace education with t shirts

Dish

Lots of interesting takes to say the least.

For the record, I'm on Houston/Nova moneyline parlay at -130 today and sitting on Arkansas futures (Sweet 16) at +140 and Oklahoma State futures (Sweet 16) at +145.

Dr. Blackheart

Will Scoop completely melt down if Moser goes to DePaul and kicks MU's ass twice a year? 

shoothoops

Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
There are at least a million reasons why Moser would consider leaving Loyola.
Marquette's campus is about 40 minutes from his home, so he wouldn't even need to move the kids. I'm sure Marquette would be happy to set him up with a nice apartment in the city for when he has a late night, but otherwise it's a very easy commute.

Just jumping in because I have done this commute before...

It's more of an every weekend commute, preferably alternating cities with the amily on those weekends. When I did it, it was a couple of days a week, setting my own schedule. And, I can say that over time, it's a grind. It's not an every day thing long term, but they could figure it out.

But your overall point stands regarding geography and proximity being a positive in the situation.


*Diaclaimer, I am not advocating for Moser to be MUBB HC.

Pakuni

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 21, 2021, 02:04:18 PM
Actually it's 77 miles exactly.  Hmmmm...

You're right. It's about an hour.

Pakuni

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 21, 2021, 02:12:40 PM
Will Scoop completely melt down if Moser goes to DePaul and kicks MU's ass twice a year?

Meltdown? Scoop? Never.

muwarrior69

How many 4 star recruits on Loyola?

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2021, 02:13:23 PM
You're right. It's about an hour.

I was joking because it returned 77. Fate, I tell you!

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