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forgetful

I really can't get over the apparent lunacy of College basketball right now.

Before the big 12 tournament, Texas was considering firing Shaka.

After the big 12 tournament, Shaka's agent was pursuing a new contract, and Texas was considering resigning him to a longer term deal.

Then after the NCAA tournament, reconsidering firing him.

Shows that fickle fans/boosters drive a lot of the boat.



NorthernDancerColt

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 22, 2021, 02:37:38 PM
There's a minor difference in talent level available to access when you coach at Texas vs. Loyola.

How did Shaka follow up his 2018 round 1 loss? Two missed tournaments. People are way too hung up on his pre-Majerus history vs. his post-Majerus history. If you can't see that the guy has "it" then my only conclusion is you have not watched his teams play.

This is the best Post I've read in years on Scoop. As the primary caregiver for my parents and then my Aunt as they were struggling through their late 80s and early 90s...I didn't get to watch Loyola's run to the Final Four.

After having watched Loyola for the first time in years.....watching Moser's way-less-talented squad completely dismantle an ultra-athletic Illini team which had realistic FF aspirations, I finally see the caliber of coach Moser is. That defense is stellar!! The crispness of passing with the offense's movement so synced-up....wow, that was a sight to behold.

My question is will the higher caliber athlete Moser should be able to bring to Milwaukee be as adept at playing by the same fundamentals? Maybe the best, most methodical TEAM is produced by getting kids who aren't the highest ranked. Will our fans and alums accept a brand of basketball which wins in a different manner? The plethora of mostly 4 ⭐️ and a couple 5 ⭐️ players during the last few coaches' tenures has created some recruiting expectations that may or may not affect a guy like Moser's M.O.
Zenyatta has a lot....a lot... of ground to make up. She gets there from here she'd be a super horse......what's this.....Zenyatta hooked to the grandstand side....Zenyatta flying on the outside....this....is...un-belieeeeeevable!...looked impossible at the top of the stretch...

Pakuni

Another reason Shaka may be looking to get out of Texas.
This is from the UT reporter at the Austin American-Statesman:

Brian Davis @BDavisAAS
At the current count, Texas could lose 7 of the 11 players currently on the men's basketball roster.

Warrior_2002

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 05:01:14 PM
Another reason Shaka may be looking to get out of Texas.
This is from the UT reporter at the Austin American-Statesman:

Brian Davis @BDavisAAS
At the current count, Texas could lose 7 of the 11 players currently on the men's basketball roster.

Whoa yeah that's not good!  How would the buyout get taken care of though?  I guess he can just make the choice to let it go?

Pakuni

Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 23, 2021, 05:08:46 PM
Whoa yeah that's not good!  How would the buyout get taken care of though?  I guess he can just make the choice to let it go?

If Texas wants him gone, the buyout won't be an impediment.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 05:01:14 PM
Another reason Shaka may be looking to get out of Texas.
This is from the UT reporter at the Austin American-Statesman:

Brian Davis @BDavisAAS
At the current count, Texas could lose 7 of the 11 players currently on the men's basketball roster.

That was part of the original reason I speculated Shaka. Losing a lot. Trying to stay ahead of the curve.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 05:12:38 PM
If Texas wants him gone, the buyout won't be an impediment.

I think it held them up last year because they had just splashed $24M to get rid of the football coach, but with another year off the deal, I agree that $7-8M won't stop them if they want to get rid of Shaka.

f/k/a humanlung

Quote from: geps on March 20, 2021, 11:36:57 PM
The longer this discussion  goes, and the various rationals for iffy coaches makes me less sure this Wojo move made sense.

We could be discussing hiring Big Bird or Cookie Monster and firing Wojo would still make sense.

naginiF


muwarrior69

Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on March 23, 2021, 05:23:54 PM
We could be discussing hiring Big Bird or Cookie Monster and firing Wojo would still make sense.

Cookie monster without question. Golden Eagle would object to Big Bird especially to one who does not fly.

hairy worthen

Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on March 23, 2021, 05:23:54 PM
We could be discussing hiring Big Bird or Cookie Monster and firing Wojo would still make sense.
Big bird a great x and o coach, but can't recruit and is a little soft. Cookie monster can recruit the hell out of it, but comes with baggage and is a little squirmy. Can't control himself in certain situations.  My pick would be Oscar. Older guy that's been around and won't take crap from his players.

muwarrior69

Quote from: hairy worthen on March 24, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Big bird a great x and o coach, but can't recruit and is a little soft. Cookie monster can recruit the hell out of it, but comes with baggage and is a little squirmy. Can't control himself in certain situations.  My pick would be Oscar. Older guy that's been around and won't take crap from his players.

Yoda, he would not only bring the force he is Jediuit Master.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: naginiF on March 24, 2021, 10:02:01 AM
The editing/meming(?) of this is a bit rough but it's unquestionably funny:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/mbsfv7/shakas_final_ride/

Tough but fair. We just fired this exact guy. No thanks!

Blackhat


brewcity77


Blackhat

His eyes look kind of beadie and he's twitching.  Not sure he'd pass mu's physical/drug test.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: naginiF on March 24, 2021, 10:02:01 AM
The editing/meming(?) of this is a bit rough but it's unquestionably funny:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/mbsfv7/shakas_final_ride/

Btw, the comments to that meme describe why Shaka might be a lot of smoke and mirrors.

A lot of people credit Will Wade as being the mastermind of the success that Shaka had at VCU, and talk about how Havoc isn't adaptable to high major play.

cheebs09

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 24, 2021, 12:40:16 PM
Btw, the comments to that meme describe why Shaka might be a lot of smoke and mirrors.

A lot of people credit Will Wade as being the mastermind of the success that Shaka had at VCU, and talk about how Havoc isn't adaptable to high major play.

He moved away from Havoc at Texas and had Top-40 defenses.

f/k/a humanlung

Quote from: hairy worthen on March 24, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Big bird a great x and o coach, but can't recruit and is a little soft. Cookie monster can recruit the hell out of it, but comes with baggage and is a little squirmy. Can't control himself in certain situations.  My pick would be Oscar. Older guy that's been around and won't take crap from his players.

May I nominate Animal for Strength and Conditioning coach?

LAZER

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 05:01:14 PM
Another reason Shaka may be looking to get out of Texas.
This is from the UT reporter at the Austin American-Statesman:

Brian Davis @BDavisAAS
At the current count, Texas could lose 7 of the 11 players currently on the men's basketball roster.
What driving the departures? NBA? Transfers? Graduation?  All of the above?

BM1090

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 24, 2021, 12:41:26 PM
He moved away from Havoc at Texas and had Top-40 defenses.

Yep. Not concerned one bit about defense if Shaka is the choice. Offense is the concern. His offenses have been hit or miss. His defenses have been consistently good.

MU82

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 24, 2021, 12:40:16 PM
Shaka might be a lot of smoke and mirrors.

"He's the perfect guy to follow Wojo." -- Mrs. Ellenson
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 24, 2021, 12:40:16 PM
Btw, the comments to that meme describe why Shaka might be a lot of smoke and mirrors.

A lot of people credit Will Wade as being the mastermind of the success that Shaka had at VCU, and talk about how Havoc isn't adaptable to high major play.

Well, I watched a lot of LSU games this year. And a lot of Texas games.

Watching both those teams play or attempt to play defense tells me Shaka was definitely the mastermind on that end.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

LAZER

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 24, 2021, 12:56:16 PM
Well, I watched a lot of LSU games this year. And a lot of Texas games.

Watching both those teams play or attempt to play defense tells me Shaka was definitely the mastermind on that end.
I was gonna say...LSU's success has not been driven by defense the last several years.

Warrior2008

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 24, 2021, 12:40:16 PM
Btw, the comments to that meme describe why Shaka might be a lot of smoke and mirrors.

A lot of people credit Will Wade as being the mastermind of the success that Shaka had at VCU, and talk about how Havoc isn't adaptable to high major play.

Shaka's defenses have been good fairly consistently during his time at Texas while Will Wade's defenses have been pedestrian to outright bad.  Different story on offense for sure, but defense is the least of my concern if Shaka were to come to mubb.

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