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Shaka just needs to shave his head again and he will be fine.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: Warrior2008 on March 24, 2021, 04:12:03 PM
Craig Smith is my top choice too, the guy is just a winner. I disagree on Shaka though. Texas and Marquette are wildly different places on many levels and I think it's unfair to assume Shaka wouldn't succeed at Marquette because of his record at Texas. His results at VCU, which is closer to Marquette than Texas IMO, give me enough of a belief to think Shaka would be an excellent hire here.

Craig Smith is my top choice to. But he's not leaving Utah State. There has been ZERO interest from his camp.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on March 24, 2021, 04:58:29 PM
Craig Smith is my top choice to. But he's not leaving Utah State. There has been ZERO interest from his camp.
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He doesn't have to leave.  Something to be said about waiting for the right job for him
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

All I know is, we have a better crop of candidates than we did last time. That is encouraging. While I have my preferences, I'm optimistic any of the names consistently mentioned would do better than their predecessor at very least.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 24, 2021, 05:04:52 PM
All I know is, we have a better crop of candidates than we did last time. That is encouraging. While I have my preferences, I'm optimistic any of the names consistently mentioned would do better than their predecessor at very least.

Respect the process, hey?

GooooMarquette

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 24, 2021, 05:04:52 PM
All I know is, we have a better crop of candidates than we did last time. That is encouraging. While I have my preferences, I'm optimistic any of the names consistently mentioned would do better than their predecessor at very least.


Totally agree. My top preferences are Gates, Smith or Moser (the order varies by the day)...but I believe even Shaka would be an upgrade.

I am optimistic we will be in a better place within a couple of years.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2021, 04:42:22 PM
Think this crop of candidates is better than post-Buzz.  Now watch them hire Archie Miller 😉

Could definitely see Archie being the next coach.

Hards Alumni


Goose

TAMU

We definitely have a better field of candidates and I think any of the top 3-4 would be great news. While Shaka is my guy, I will be happy if we get one of the mentioned names. Only concern, is getting behind the eight ball and ending up with one of the non frontrunners. Dominoes fall quickly, like our last go around, and I hope they do not let grass under their feet. Little voice in my head says Moser the leader in the clubhouse and that worries me in regards to how long it could take.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: blue and gold on March 24, 2021, 04:22:39 PM
Craig's Smith's head coaching experience has occurred at schools located in North Dakota, South Dakota, and Utah.  Although, he's taken teams to the NCAA tournament twice, he's lost both games by an average margin of 14.5 points. 

Furthermore, Smith only has 2 years of experience at a high major which was when he was an assistant at Nebraska to Tim Miles in the early part of the last decade.

This sounds like you're trying to talk yourself out of Craig Smith.  From your post history, I can tell you're new around here and very enamored with Mr Moser.

If you want to compare their accomplishments, by all means.  Recruiting kids to go play out in ND, SD, and Utah is probably a bit harder than recruiting players to play in Chicago.  They're both proven coaches, and we should be have to have either of them as our next coach.

NickelDimer

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Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 24, 2021, 04:04:53 PM
I'm the complete opposite.  Moser is meh and I've warmed to Shaka considerably.

I'm worried that recency bias clouds our judgement with Moser appearing to be much better than he is and Shaka appearing to be much worse than he is.

When I look at their total resumes and experience, I give Shaka the edge. Both have a Final Four on their resume, but Shaka has P6 experience and proven high major recruiting chops.
I'm definitely guilty of recency bias but watching Moser coach his team out of a huge early deficit vs Tech then come up with a brilliant gameplan vs IL was enough to convince me. Otoh watching that uninspired UT team lose to a vastly inferior team soured me a bit on Shaka
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MU82

Quote from: NickelDimer on March 24, 2021, 06:20:41 PM
I'm definitely guilty of recency bias but watching Moser coach his team out of a huge early deficit vs Tech then come up with a brilliant gameplan vs IL was enough to convince me. Otoh watching that uninspired UT team lose to a vastly inferior team soured me a bit on Shaka

And IMHO it's totally reasonable to think this way.

We had Wojo ... and even in his good years, the ones capped by NCAAT appearances, he cr@pped the bed at the end. So here we see the brilliant Shaka Smart ... and he goes out and loses in the first round to an Abilene Christian team that wasn't half as good as the Murray State and South Carolina teams Wojo lost to.

So sure, it's recency bias. And human nature. But it's also common sense. We - all of us, including Scholl - have said a bazillion times we want somebody who's gonna win NCAAT games. Of Moser and Shaka, only one has done that in the last 8 years. And the one who has can count Final Four and Sweet 16 appearances on his ledger.

Like TAMU, brew and others have said, that doesn't mean you dismiss the overall body of work for either guy. Most of us could make a very nice argument for Shaka - several Scoopers have.

But I think it's totally fair to look at what Marquette fans have just spent 7 years watching ... look at what happened to Shaka's team last week ... look back at his previous 7 seasons too ... and say, "Really?"
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79Warrior

Quote from: Goose on March 24, 2021, 05:47:39 PM
TAMU

We definitely have a better field of candidates and I think any of the top 3-4 would be great news. While Shaka is my guy, I will be happy if we get one of the mentioned names. Only concern, is getting behind the eight ball and ending up with one of the non frontrunners. Dominoes fall quickly, like our last go around, and I hope they do not let grass under their feet. Little voice in my head says Moser the leader in the clubhouse and that worries me in regards to how long it could take.

The real question is will MU pay up for a HC? None of the names thrown around will come cheap. Part of me thinks another assistant could be likely. Some chatter of Dwayne Stephens at MSU.

CountryRoads

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 24, 2021, 08:15:32 PM
The real question is will MU pay up for a HC? None of the names thrown around will come cheap. Part of me thinks another assistant could be likely. Some chatter of Dwayne Stephens at MSU.

Are they nuts? Hiring another coach who has been an assistant for 15+ years on the same staff sounds like the worst idea possible.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 24, 2021, 08:17:50 PM
Are they nuts? Hiring another coach who has been an assistant for 15+ years on the same staff sounds like the worst idea possible.

Hopefully just due diligence while buying time

JWags85

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 24, 2021, 08:15:32 PM
The real question is will MU pay up for a HC? None of the names thrown around will come cheap. Part of me thinks another assistant could be likely. Some chatter of Dwayne Stephens at MSU.

Good god no. With all respect to Dwayne, all this talk and then hiring a 50 year old career assistant who has spent nearly all his time within the MSU umbrella would be a nightmare. Make Ben Johnson at Minnesota's hiring look like a slam dunk. I'd rather have Crean back.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 24, 2021, 08:15:32 PM
The real question is will MU pay up for a HC? None of the names thrown around will come cheap. Part of me thinks another assistant could be likely. Some chatter of Dwayne Stephens at MSU.

I doubt any assistants are being considered. I also think they could get Gates cheaper than Wojo. The others I think will be in the same neighborhood
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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MU82

The Athletic had an article about Kai Jones going pro and hiring an agent. In the "What's next for Texas" segment, the writer said:

The loss of Jones is a hit to the Texas frontcourt, but an expected one. The Longhorns will lose Jericho Sims, Jones and likely Greg Brown up front. Kamaka Hepa is the player most likely to benefit from this decision. Hepa, who played in only nine games and basically treated this season like a redshirt year, should be in line to start.

Don't be surprised to see Texas go to more of a small-ball option at the 4 with either Jase Febres or Brock Cunningham. Other options will be incoming freshmen David Joplin or Keeyan Itejere. Shaka Smart could also look to the transfer portal to restock up front.


Didn't say boo about Shaka possibly leaving for Marquette or elsewhere, or possibly getting fired. Not a word. Just routinely wrote what Smart might do next at Texas. And The Athletic is usually fairly plugged in. How 'bout that?
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Warrior2008

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 24, 2021, 08:15:32 PM
The real question is will MU pay up for a HC? None of the names thrown around will come cheap. Part of me thinks another assistant could be likely. Some chatter of Dwayne Stephens at MSU.

Hard. Pass.

Viper

Quote from: MU82 on March 25, 2021, 08:48:35 AM
The Athletic had an article about Kai Jones going pro and hiring an agent. In the "What's next for Texas" segment, the writer said:

The loss of Jones is a hit to the Texas frontcourt, but an expected one. The Longhorns will lose Jericho Sims, Jones and likely Greg Brown up front. Kamaka Hepa is the player most likely to benefit from this decision. Hepa, who played in only nine games and basically treated this season like a redshirt year, should be in line to start.

Don't be surprised to see Texas go to more of a small-ball option at the 4 with either Jase Febres or Brock Cunningham. Other options will be incoming freshmen David Joplin or Keeyan Itejere. Shaka Smart could also look to the transfer portal to restock up front.


Didn't say boo about Shaka possibly leaving for Marquette or elsewhere, or possibly getting fired. Not a word. Just routinely wrote what Smart might do next at Texas. And The Athletic is usually fairly plugged in. How 'bout that?
its a shame Joplin got away. Brookfield product. Did well vs Baldwin (same conf). Will be a stud. Not sure if Woj offered him. Mute point now, I suppose.
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forgetful

Quote from: Marq3332 on March 25, 2021, 09:03:29 AM
its a shame Joplin got away. Brookfield product. Did well vs Baldwin (same conf). Will be a stud. Not sure if Woj offered him. Mute point now, I suppose.

Before all this is over, he may be available.

onepost

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 24, 2021, 08:15:32 PM
The real question is will MU pay up for a HC? None of the names thrown around will come cheap. Part of me thinks another assistant could be likely. Some chatter of Dwayne Stephens at MSU.

Yeah that's 1000% not happening.

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