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Started by Pakuni, March 19, 2021, 12:42:29 PM

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Goose


Silent Verbal

It would be "incredible" to lure Lavall Jordan away?  The guy's got one foot in the grave at Butler.  If Matta decides he wants that job, Jordan's toast.

Tha Hound

#602
https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1374463454203895811?s=20

Goodman says if he were a betting man he'd go with Moser to MU. Also mentions Beilein, Gates (who he says is involved at Depaul) and says he doesn't even think Shaka could get MU at this point, not the other way around.

dw3dw3dw3

What minute did the mu talk start?


Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2021, 04:47:58 PM
Rocket

Hard pass on Jordan

Jordan was a joke I assume for MU. But, he does have three Top 50 recruits coming. And if I recall, has the highest rated BE class coming in.

https://butlersports.com/news/2020/11/11/mens-basketball-butlermbb-adds-three-local-standouts-as-class-of-2021.aspx

Strokin 3s

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 23, 2021, 05:11:26 PM
Jordan was a joke I assume for MU. But, he does have three Top 50 recruits coming. And if I recall, has the highest rated BE class coming in.

https://butlersports.com/news/2020/11/11/mens-basketball-butlermbb-adds-three-local-standouts-as-class-of-2021.aspx

Top 50 for their respective positions....hardly overwhelming.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: onepostdavis on March 22, 2021, 08:34:06 PM
The more you read and hear about Dennis Gates, the harder it is to not be impressed by the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoNOVmOCu8w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyF7wDPlZVE

https://theundefeated.com/features/dennis-gates-bet-on-himself-and-brought-cleveland-state-back-to-the-ncaa-tournament/

First two are brief videos about his time at Florida State, the third is a recent Undefeated article about his time at Cleveland State.

Telling that Jonathan Isaac, CJ Walker, and other stars at Florida State mention that he's the main reason they committed to FSU: he was "the big brother they didn't have".  Leonard Hamilton said he's the most well-prepared coach he's ever worked with.  I get that these things are meant to be puff pieces, but you listen to the guy and it's hard to argue with it.  His guys genuinely love him, he was one of the heads of the Leadership Committee at Florida State, and he's shown he has legit head coaching chops.  That and the fact he has Chicago/Whitney Young roots, played at Cal so has West Coast ties, and thrived at Florida State so has Southeast ties, it's no surprise he has such a sterling reputation as a dynamite recruiter.

I have had pause on Gates because it seems like quasi-Wojo 2.0 with slightly more experience: a long-time assistant under a phenomenal coach who is regarded as an incredible recruiter.  And I have always preferred Beilein (sounds like that's not happening) or Shaka.  But the more I learn about Dennis Gates the more and more excited I'd be if he got the job here.  Certainly not as flashy as Shaka, who I think I still want as a Plan A, but I think Gates could be an incredible hire for Marquette if that's the route they go.

Whether it's at Marquette, or at the next high major spot he'd end up at, I don't see a scenario where Dennis Gates isn't a really successful head coach.  I'm a huge fan.

the biggest question mark on Gates is what happens when Lenoard Hamilton steps down. I have a friend in Tallahassee who swears Gates will be the next FSU head coach. Hamiton is 72 and that could be within a few years. Do we take the chance he could be gone within a few years? 

For me, if it gets us some tourney wins in the meantime, I say yes.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

nyg

Quote from: Strokin 3s on March 23, 2021, 05:21:17 PM
Top 50 for their respective positions....hardly overwhelming.

Yes, I was curious also.  MU is ranked 24 th class and I never recalled Butler.

Went to Rivals and Butler did not have one signee in Top 150.

Three guys who were not ranked at all and were three stars. 


Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: nyg on March 23, 2021, 05:26:57 PM
Yes, I was curious also.  MU is ranked 24 th class and I never recalled Butler.

Went to Rivals and Butler did not have one signee in Top 150.

Three guys who were not ranked at all and were three stars.

I heard it on FS1 but my bad.

Goose

Dr. B

I think we can do a lot better and we are in great spot this time around. I am excited that MU will be in better spot in next week or so.

Dr. Blackheart

#611
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2021, 05:36:49 PM
Dr. B

I think we can do a lot better and we are in great spot this time around. I am excited that MU will be in better spot in next week or so.

Yes sir. Jordan wouldn't be in my Top 100.

Edit: It was his freshman class that was #15th. I was surprised by that as I felt he was flailing there.
https://butlersports.com/news/2019/11/19/mens-basketball-butlermbb-signs-highest-ranked-recruiting-class-in-program-history.aspx

rocket surgeon

#612
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 23, 2021, 05:11:26 PM
Jordan was a joke I assume for MU. But, he does have three Top 50 recruits coming. And if I recall, has the highest rated BE class coming in.

https://butlersports.com/news/2020/11/11/mens-basketball-butlermbb-adds-three-local-standouts-as-class-of-2021.aspx

actually doc(and goose),  i thought he was held in higher regard, mainly due to recruiting. but thank you for the info
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 23, 2021, 09:15:30 PM
actually doc, i thought he was held in higher regard, mainly due to recruiting. but thank you for the info

To be honest Doc, I don't what to make of him. His teams are very well coached, but recruiting is an issue. Yet I see that.

The jury is out but this may be a Chico's Special. 5 years to judge.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

cheebs09

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 23, 2021, 09:46:02 PM
Interesting tweet from Dennis Gates

https://mobile.twitter.com/coachdgates/status/1371579584957837318

He played against Sampson in the first round, so that made it a story.

Not sure if you are implying this is a sign he might come to MU.

Bad_Reporter


Herman Cain

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 23, 2021, 09:51:15 PM
He played against Sampson in the first round, so that made it a story.

Not sure if you are implying this is a sign he might come to MU.
I just think it was humorous and ironic that he remembers his days as a grad assistant at MU so fondly, and now here he is in the mix for the job as top dog of MU.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

4everwarriors

Pretty obvious to me MU wants to talk to Moser, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Bad_Reporter

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2021, 06:31:12 AM
Pretty obvious to me MU wants to talk to Moser, hey?

Eh.

He's the guy.

MU82

Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 24, 2021, 06:32:59 AM
Eh.

He's the guy.

Y'all are calling it for Moser!

I'm done doubting you, sir. Looking forward to Coach Moser's introductory Marquette press conference.

We Are Marquette!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

fjm

https://www.pscp.tv/w/cys1qDEzMDY1OTAzfDFsRHhMcGFZRFh6eG0orQzrlW6Z8vojO-fNhmYTp0zMLOd17pztUxRo1nhg1Q==?t=44m2s

They talked MU and Moser. (I wanna say around 37min?

Doug gottlieb was on and Trigger Warning. He kinda goes on a rant about the BEast. But also talks about MUBB great culture and his love for MKE and Mike Deane. 

Goodman is firm and believes PM is going to be the next MUBB coach to the point that he's rubbing his head in disgust when someone disagrees.

Dauster believes moser stays at Loyola.

SaveOD238

Quote from: fjm on March 25, 2021, 08:55:31 AM
https://www.pscp.tv/w/cys1qDEzMDY1OTAzfDFsRHhMcGFZRFh6eG0orQzrlW6Z8vojO-fNhmYTp0zMLOd17pztUxRo1nhg1Q==?t=44m2s

They talked MU and Moser. (I wanna say around 37min?

Doug gottlieb was on and Trigger Warning. He kinda goes on a rant about the BEast. But also talks about MUBB great culture and his love for MKE and Mike Deane. 

Goodman is firm and believes PM is going to be the next MUBB coach to the point that he's rubbing his head in disgust when someone disagrees.

Dauster believes moser stays at Loyola.

How do I rewind these live videos? As a pretty techy Millennial, if even I can't figure it out, something is wrong.

fjm

Quote from: fjm on March 25, 2021, 08:55:31 AM
https://www.pscp.tv/w/cys1qDEzMDY1OTAzfDFsRHhMcGFZRFh6eG0orQzrlW6Z8vojO-fNhmYTp0zMLOd17pztUxRo1nhg1Q==?t=44m2s

They talked MU and Moser. (I wanna say around 37min?

Doug gottlieb was on and Trigger Warning. He kinda goes on a rant about the BEast. But also talks about MUBB great culture and his love for MKE and Mike Deane. 

Goodman is firm and believes PM is going to be the next MUBB coach to the point that he's rubbing his head in disgust when someone disagrees.

Dauster believes moser stays at Loyola.

MUBB talk starts at 36 min.

To fastforward. Open the link. Hit play. Then press and hold your finger on the screen/video and a timeline will pop up. And drag the timeline to 35/36min.

forgetful

Quote from: Tha Hound on March 23, 2021, 04:56:52 PM
https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1374463454203895811?s=20

Goodman says if he were a betting man he'd go with Moser to MU. Also mentions Beilein, Gates (who he says is involved at Depaul) and says he doesn't even think Shaka could get MU at this point, not the other way around.

I wonder how much of the "Shaka" isn't even candidate, couldn't get the job talk is a result of possibly "false advertising".

If MU wants to target Shaka, it behoves them to convince Texas they are not interested, especially if TX is looking for an out on the buyout, or was hoping a MU would be willing to pay a buyout they could use to buy a new coach.

Could be part of a game of chicken. If so, Goodman may have more inside info than we think, as MU would be trading intel. Could mean Moser number 1, Shaka a close 2nd.