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Started by Pakuni, March 19, 2021, 12:42:29 PM

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JWags85

Porky is back. Need a Porky vs MarquetteMike wild post off to the death

forgetful

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 20, 2021, 01:28:26 PM

If you can't pull off the Buzz look, how about Huggy?

Not sure there. I generally discourage those under my tutelage from punching police horses in the mouth.

And I certainly can't fill out a sweat suit like Huggy.

But, I've been told that I have a great "disapproving stare" that makes people feel like they disappointed Santa Claus, and Huggy is the size of Santa Claus, and has a classic "disapproving stare," so we'll go with a maybe on that one.

onepost

Let the record show that if we miss out on Beilein or Shaka, I hope we end up with Craig Smith.
Personable guy, has Midwest ties, and wins a crap ton of basketball games.

His trajectory seems similar to that of a Chris Beard.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: onepostdavis on March 20, 2021, 01:37:08 PM

Let the record show that if we miss out on Beilein or Shaka, I hope we end up with Craig Smith.
Personable guy, has Midwest ties, and wins a crap ton of basketball games.



I could get on board with Craig Smith.

If not, my second choice is forgetful with his "disapproving stare."

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

I can get behind Smith, Kelsey, and Gates.

Moser is below those guys. His FF run needed a buzzer beater in round 1, go ahead shot under 5 seconds in round 2, a dagger 3 under 10 seconds in Sweet 16 against a 7 seed, and played a 9 seed in the Elite 8.  That run needed so many things to go right that I'm hesitant to put Moser at the very top of my list.

I would still take him over Wojo, but Moser gives me Greg Gard vibes.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Warrior2008 on March 20, 2021, 11:37:52 AM
The Shaka info from Goodman screams Shaka using Marquette as leverage for a new contract with Texas. I would love him here too, but I don't see that happening based on what happened in 2014.

Ding ding ding
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 20, 2021, 02:44:38 PM
I can get behind Smith, Kelsey, and Gates.

Moser is below those guys. His FF run needed a buzzer beater in round 1, go ahead shot under 5 seconds in round 2, a dagger 3 under 10 seconds in Sweet 16 against a 7 seed, and played a 9 seed in the Elite 8.  That run needed so many things to go right that I'm hesitant to put Moser at the very top of my list.

I would still take him over Wojo, but Moser gives me Greg Gard vibes.

"In reality, his taking a mid major to the Final Four by beating all lower seeded teams wasn't that impressive." Really?
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Big Papi on March 20, 2021, 12:05:59 PM
1. Beilein
2. Moser
3. Grant
4. Smith
5. Gates

Remove Grant, slide Moser down behind Gates and I think you might have the actual list.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 20, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
We had a fun Marquette 20 year run 4 seats front row center court. Purchased family and friends yellow tee shirts most every game and we drank one beer in the first half and one beer in the second half. Later we moved back about 10 rows but knew the jumbotron camera person and got on most games. Wardle would say hi. Good times. But again hope MU can do better than Wardle.
They tell me I know the tip of the iceberg. Which they tell me is more than most haha.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 20, 2021, 02:49:59 PM
Remove Grant, slide Moser down behind Gates and I think you might have the actual list.

Medved instead of Grant. MU connection with Steve Cottingham at CSU too.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: onepostdavis on March 20, 2021, 01:37:08 PM
Let the record show that if we miss out on Beilein or Shaka, I hope we end up with Craig Smith.
Personable guy, has Midwest ties, and wins a crap ton of basketball games.

His trajectory seems similar to that of a Chris Beard.

I'm with you onepost. I think Smith will be considered a great high major coach in the next 5 or so years.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 20, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
I'm with you onepost. I think Smith will be considered a great high major coach in the next 5 or so years.

Can he recruit Big East talent? He checks some of the lower boxes Scholl laid out. Identity, off court, development but that top one is a big question for me.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 20, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
I'm with you onepost. I think Smith will be considered a great high major coach in the next 5 or so years.
I heard him on Sirius XM this week. Funny personality.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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Pakuni

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 20, 2021, 02:58:18 PM
Can he recruit Big East talent? He checks some of the lower boxes Scholl laid out. Identity, off court, development but that top one is a big question for me.

That's my concern as well.
The highest level he's been is as an assistant for three years at Nebraska. During those three years, the staff landed classes that ranked 56th, 95th and 27th nationally.
At Utah State, his classes have ranked 115th and 119th.
Those are two hard places to recruit, so I'm not sure if those rankings are telling of anything, but hiring Smith involves a pretty huge leap of faith that wouldn't be there for a guy like Dennis Gates.

JWags85

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 20, 2021, 03:00:56 PM
I heard him on Sirius XM this week. Funny personality.

That's a departure from his mentor at least. Tim Miles on broadcasts was awful

Warrior_2002

Gates makes me a little nervous.  Just not much there on the resume.  I think earlier TAMU said high risk high reward.  Sounds kind of like a Buzz move.  Not against it.  Just worries me a bit putting him lower on my list.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 20, 2021, 02:52:13 PM
Medved instead of Grant. MU connection with Steve Cottingham at CSU too.

That's probably not a good thing.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2021, 03:07:26 PM
That's my concern as well.
The highest level he's been is as an assistant for three years at Nebraska. During those three years, the staff landed classes that ranked 56th, 95th and 27th nationally.
At Utah State, his classes have ranked 115th and 119th.
Those are two hard places to recruit, so I'm not sure if those rankings are telling of anything, but hiring Smith involves a pretty huge leap of faith that wouldn't be there for a guy like Dennis Gates.

If recruiting is the top priority as Scholl laid out, its Gates for me too. He would clean up at MU. Will need bench help.

Pakuni

Quote from: Warrior_2002 on March 20, 2021, 03:18:41 PM
Gates makes me a little nervous.  Just not much there on the resume.  I think earlier TAMU said high risk high reward.  Sounds kind of like a Buzz move.  Not against it.  Just worries me a bit putting him lower on my list.

Fair, but he does have more head coaching experience than four of Marquette's last five hires. And eight years on the bench of an ACC program.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2021, 03:26:48 PM
Fair, but he does have more head coaching experience than four of Marquette's last five hires. And eight years on the bench of an ACC program.

Which has led some I've talked with to say Gates wants to take over at FSU eventually
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 20, 2021, 03:28:33 PM
Which has led some I've talked with to say Gates wants to take over at FSU eventually

Yeah, that would be a concern of mine for Gates. If he's a home run hire for Marquette, he's likely to have offers from high-profile programs in short order, whether it's FSU or somewhere else. That may be true of any young coach, I suppose.

GoldenWarrior11

FWIW, Scholl's head coaching hires to date have all had some Catholic school background in some form.

I just have a hard time seeing Smith being a top-candidate. Maybe I'm wrong.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2021, 03:31:47 PM
Yeah, that would be a concern of mine for Gates. If he's a home run hire for Marquette, he's likely to have offers from high-profile programs in short order, whether it's FSU or somewhere else. That may be true of any young coach, I suppose.
That was also said about Wojo when coach K retires.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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