Billboard on Campus

[Small Orange Soda]

The internet was around for the Deane years. And Chico's was Deane's biggest cheerleader (no lie).

Guess our best chance of success is to hire somebody Cheeks doesn't like.

[Silent Verbal]

Yep.  If he won more, Wojo would be a perfect coach for Marquette.  Checks all the boxes except the big one that matters most.  There is zero reason to denigrate him as a person.

I disagree that he'd be a perfect coach for Marquette.  He's a clean cut guy who's never gonna make waves.  He's boring.  I prefer coaches like Buzz, Al, Majerus.  Guys who had a little flavor and some philosopher in them.  Wojo is just a bland jock.

[The Sultan]

I disagree that he'd be a perfect coach for Marquette.  He's a clean cut guy who's never gonna make waves.  He's boring.  I prefer coaches like Buzz, Al, Majerus.  Guys who had a little flavor and some philosopher in them.  Wojo is just a bland jock.

If he were a bland jock who won more, no one would give a sh*t about what you "prefer."  He brings in quality guys.  They give to their community while they are here.  Don't get in trouble.  They graduate.

[The Sultan]

I guess Crean and Buzz are not people.

Huh?

[Galway Eagle]

I disagree that he'd be a perfect coach for Marquette.  He's a clean cut guy who's never gonna make waves.  He's boring.  I prefer coaches like Buzz, Al, Majerus.  Guys who had a little flavor and some philosopher in them.  Wojo is just a bland jock.

Are you 16? Who groups people with terms like this outside of high school and Middle school?

[Pakuni]

I disagree that he'd be a perfect coach for Marquette.  He's a clean cut guy who's never gonna make waves.  He's boring.  I prefer coaches like Buzz, Al, Majerus.  Guys who had a little flavor and some philosopher in them.  Wojo is just a bland jock.

Which was your favorite Buzz "wave?" The sex assault investigation? The NCAA violation? The off-court incidents?
Buzz was a terrific coach at MU, but I could have done without the waves.

[Silent Verbal]

If he were a bland jock who won more, no one would give a sh*t about what you "prefer."  He brings in quality guys.  They give to their community while they are here.  Don't get in trouble.  They graduate.

Are you suggesting people give a sh*t what you prefer?

[panda]

https://twitter.com/Csgkam/status/1372796589698248708

Regardless of all this, I appreciate seeing Kam respond in support of his future coach.

Once again - I feel bad for the kids. They don't deserve this negativity and so far, none of it has been directed towards them.

This does show the newcomers really don't have any idea what the temperature in the room is either.

[The Sultan]

Are you suggesting people give a sh*t what you prefer?

No.  I have never stated what I prefer.  A coach who does what Wojo has done but wins more, is perfect.  I don't care what his personality is or how "boring" or "exciting" he is. 

[muwarrior69]

Huh?

How many times have posters here perhaps seriously and in jest have said "Crean sucks". Did I miss the teal on denigrating him as a person? If so I do apologize as we always seem to communicate on different frequencies.

[cheebs09]

I disagree that he'd be a perfect coach for Marquette.  He's a clean cut guy who's never gonna make waves.  He's boring.  I prefer coaches like Buzz, Al, Majerus.  Guys who had a little flavor and some philosopher in them.  Wojo is just a bland jock.

I remember I was excited for some blandness off the court after Buzz. I liked Buzz as a coach but some of the off the court stuff was a bit exhausting.

If Wojo was winning at a high level, I couldn't care less if he said the same thing in every interview and was the most boring coach in the country.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Once again - I feel bad for the kids. They don't deserve this negativity and so far, none of it has been directed towards them.

This does show the newcomers really don't have any idea what the temperature in the room is either.

Yup. New recruits are almost always going to have a really good relationship with the coach who recruited them. Probably the main reason they committed.

High major basketball is a completely different animal then even the best high school teams though.

It's gonna be ugly with fans next year. Feel for the players like yourself. Hope they're able to separate the disappointment for the coach with the team itself.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Which was your favorite Buzz "wave?" The sex assault investigation? The NCAA violation? The off-court incidents?
Buzz was a terrific coach at MU, but I could have done without the waves.

And Tom Izzo, whose had all of those and more is loved and fawned on by alumni and press alike. And, worse...MU fans (most half seriously) would take Pitino.

MU wants higher academic student athletes with clean off the court behavior. But they confuse us fanatics when they also claim we should compete for national championships. Seldom do they go hand in hand, and MU needs to step in and manage these fan and alumni expectations.

The next PAC article should delve into the academic and off court accomplishments in their next case on Wojo. This is one of the main points why Wojo was hired. Or maybe they need to court appoint Cheeks as the counsel for the defense?

[real chili 83]

ND sucks.

[Pakuni]

And Tom Izzo, whose had all of those and more is loved and fawned on by alumni and press alike. And, worse...MU fans (most half seriously) would take Pitino.

MU wants higher academic student athletes with clean off the court behavior. But they confuse us fanatics when they also claim we should compete for national championships. Seldom do they go hand in hand, and MU needs to step in and manage these fan and alumni expectations.

The next PAC article should delve into the academic and off court accomplishments in their next case on Wojo. This is one of the main points why Wojo was hired. Or maybe they need to court appoint Cheeks as the counsel for the defense?

Ah, the ever popular false dilemma fallacy, in which Marquette's sole options are a seedy program that wins or a respectable program that loses.
What if I were to tell you it's possible to have a successful program without completely compromising one's ethics? What if I were to tell you such programs actually exist?
Not scandal free, because you can never count on college kids to be perfect and the NCAA rulebook is so convoluted that unintentional violations are hard to avoid. But also not one that embraces the worst aspects of college athletics for the sake of a few more wins.

[We R Final Four]

My eyesight is not what it use to be, but what was so vitriolic toward Wojo on the billboard?

It showed his coaching record at MU.....which is a scary.....and apparently some here find it unfair and malicious. 

[Farley36]

No.  I have never stated what I prefer.  A coach who does what Wojo has done but wins more, is perfect.  I don't care what his personality is or how "boring" or "exciting" he is.

In this post you are stating what you prefer.  You're not only doing that but going even further to suggest it's perfect.

[Farley36]

And Tom Izzo, whose had all of those and more is loved and fawned on by alumni and press alike. And, worse...MU fans (most half seriously) would take Pitino.

MU wants higher academic student athletes with clean off the court behavior. But they confuse us fanatics when they also claim we should compete for national championships. Seldom do they go hand in hand, and MU needs to step in and manage these fan and alumni expectations.

The next PAC article should delve into the academic and off court accomplishments in their next case on Wojo. This is one of the main points why Wojo was hired. Or maybe they need to court appoint Cheeks as the counsel for the defense?

Who here is confused?  I don't think anyone is confused.  It's time to stop pretending big time college athletics is anything but that.  If the kids are great students that's fantastic but the primary focus should be on winning.  If that's not what the administration believes then the results will not change.   A whole lot of self righteous people can get up in arms but the truth is we should be recruiting the best basketball players we can get into the program even more f poor students or no path to graduate.  Many of those kids need a way to get ahead in life and will benefit from their MU experience even if not excelling academically.

[Marquette Overload]

oooooo geocities... I can just picture the layout!

Here's the layout of the sportsonly forum:

https://web.archive.org/web/19981205150452/http://www.sportsonly.com/a/6025/

https://web.archive.org/web/20010614072856/http://www.sportsonly.com/a/6025/

[Dr. Blackheart]

Ah, the ever popular false dilemma fallacy, in which Marquette's sole options are a seedy program that wins or a respectable program that loses.
What if I were to tell you it's possible to have a successful program without completely compromising one's ethics? What if I were to tell you such programs actually exist?
Not scandal free, because you can never count on college kids to be perfect and the NCAA rulebook is so convoluted that unintentional violations are hard to avoid. But also not one that embraces the worst aspects of college athletics for the sake of a few more wins.

Nice deflection. Coach K, Cal, $ Bill Self, Brad Underwood, Will Wade, Boeheim, Drew, Ole Roy, Pitino say hi too. Btw, they are all dancing but K this year. Heck, how did Texas Tech get so good so quickly? Oh, they have Adams sitting on the bench.

I will be cheering for Few and Wright, but they are the exceptions. If MU truly wants to be like them, then they need to stop hiring top assistants or the next great mid-major coach. Or stop overbuilding on court promise followed up by hollow excuses as why the team underachieved on the court.

MU has done a horrible job of communicating the expectations they have of the program on the court to alumni and fans. As the result, you get this public display and Wojo gets 100% of the fan blame, when in fact, the admin is very pleased with Wojo.

It will be telling if MU addresses this or not. Are they getting pressed?

[Hards Alumni]

Here's the layout of the sportsonly forum:

https://web.archive.org/web/19981205150452/http://www.sportsonly.com/a/6025/

https://web.archive.org/web/20010614072856/http://www.sportsonly.com/a/6025/

Ah yes, like caveman scratching on stone walls.  Looks great!

[Galway Eagle]

Ah yes, like caveman scratching on stone walls.  Looks great!

The depressing part is UCLA's main forum is still in that format

[cheebs09]

Nice deflection. Coach K, Cal, $ Bill Self, Brad Underwood, Will Wade, Boeheim, Drew, Ole Roy, Pitino say hi too. Btw, they are all dancing but K this year. Heck, how did Texas Tech get so good so quickly? Oh, they have Adams sitting on the bench.

I will be cheering for Few and Wright, but they are the exceptions. If MU truly wants to be like them, then they need to stop hiring top assistants or the next great mid-major coach. Or stop overbuilding on court promise followed up by hollow excuses as why the team underachieved on the court.

MU has done a horrible job of communicating the expectations they have of the program on the court to alumni and fans. As the result, you get this public display and Wojo gets 100% of the fan blame, when in fact, the admin is very pleased with Wojo.

It will be telling if MU addresses this or not. Are they getting pressed?

Wright was head coach at Hofstra and Few was an assistant at Gonzaga before being named HC. Where do people get the idea that all these other top schools are poaching sitting high major coaches?

[#UnleashSean]

Nice deflection. Coach K, Cal, $ Bill Self, Brad Underwood, Will Wade, Boeheim, Drew, Ole Roy, Pitino say hi too. Btw, they are all dancing but K this year. Heck, how did Texas Tech get so good so quickly? Oh, they have Adams sitting on the bench.

I will be cheering for Few and Wright, but they are the exceptions. If MU truly wants to be like them, then they need to stop hiring top assistants or the next great mid-major coach. Or stop overbuilding on court promise followed up by hollow excuses as why the team underachieved on the court.

MU has done a horrible job of communicating the expectations they have of the program on the court to alumni and fans. As the result, you get this public display and Wojo gets 100% of the fan blame, when in fact, the admin is very pleased with Wojo.

It will be telling if MU addresses this or not. Are they getting pressed?

WOW

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Wright was head coach at Hofstra and Few was an assistant at Gonzaga before being named HC. Where do people get the idea that all these other top schools are poaching sitting high major coaches?

I think Jay Wright is a good comparison for a coach developing. I don't think Villanova is too dissimilar to Marquette in terms of resources, in fact Marquette's basketball resources may be better.

But Jay struggled his first three years, and then went S16, E8, R64, S16, F4 in his next five years. I do think people were overly critical of Wojo in his first few seasons, but he hasn't shown the improvement since then.