Billboard on Campus

[The Sultan]

Did 90% of the fanbase really believe it was time for Dukiet to go after his second year?

Yeah I think a banner was unfurled during my junior year. That was #2.

[Viper]

I have been an MU fan for over 50 years.  I have been a season ticket holder and I am a graduate of Marquette.  Never have I been so ashamed of alleged MU basketball fans.  The anger  and malice directed toward coach wojo is beyond any sense of proportion.  I remember The Dukiet years and there is no comparison between then and now.  While coach wojo has been something of a disappointment,  he certainly does not deserve the lack of respect and indignity shown him in these posts.

You should be embarrassed by your self-serving, egotistical and entitled response to this situation.  No doubt you are not embarrassed as you are so solidly wrapped in you self-righteousness.   Compassion,understanding and respect used to be hall marks of Catholic education and foundational to the Marquette tradition.  I guess that is not so much the case now.  That is not a failure of the basketball program but the failure of the educational system.  Coach wojo has a family, how hurtful your antics mus be to them.  I apologize on your behalf.

If you are successful in your endeavor of unseating coach wojo and your champion should prove no better remember what you have done and fess up to it.  As for coach K exppect he will go somewhere else make some more coin and be successful much like Majerus was.  Good work boys and girls.

birdman, er, Hawk, this ain't HS. This ain't intramural basketball. This is big time money making D-1 basketball. Woj is paid...a lot! Under his watch a historic basketball program is turning to sh!t. Bad enough we are the golden eagles. Now we are the sh!!ty golden eagles. Woj gots to go. We'll take our chances with next up. Yes?

[Small Orange Soda]

Yeah I think a banner was unfurled during my junior year. That was #2.

Okay, fair enough.  I guess the admin was a year late like they'll be on Wojo.

[NickelDimer]

Orange's point, as I read it, is the abysmal state of our program during the Dukiet years isn't a barometer for "unacceptable" when it comes to our program so when it's referenced by someone who's been a fan for 50 years it doesn't mean jack

[panda]

I actually have a theory that if Wojo was cutting his teeth occasionally winning in a mid-major conference people would be here touting him as a potential replacement.  But hey, that's where we are.  "Any guy off the street" could do a better job I've heard.

He'd do better with less resources?

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Worst case scenario is this uprising lights a fire under wojo's *ss to change the direction of this program.
We ain't DePaul and won't sit quietly on our hands

[NickelDimer]

Worst case scenario is this uprising lights a fire under wojo's *ss to change the direction of this program.
We ain't DePaul and won't sit quietly on our hands

This would imply he's capable

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I actually have a theory that if Wojo was cutting his teeth occasionally winning in a mid-major conference people would be here touting him as a potential replacement.  But hey, that's where we are.  "Any guy off the street" could do a better job I've heard.

We're shaving the salami pretty thin if the argument is "Wojo should be fired but don't say he's worse than ANY guy off the street".

[Viper]

Lol, you compared Wojo to a low level salesman the other day:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61655.msg1323839#msg1323839

MU fans are essentially "rioting" right now, and I don't expect anything to come from it.  Sorry if my analogies made the point go over your head.

i got you. But that low level salesman analogy wasn't bad. Admit it.

[The Lens]

Hahahahahah, ok Boomer.

The guy has made close to $10 million to grind an historic college basketball program into dust. If he didn't want to get berated constantly for his awful performance, he should spare us all and QUIT and go retire somewhere with his family and his stolen $10 million.

Wojo has exactly 0 achievements that matter in 7 years. His successor couldn't possibly be worse. Even if a new coach went 0-20 in conference his resume would read the same as Wojo's: perennial loser searching for my first NCAA win.

Looks like somebody forgot all about the 2015 Fan Duel Legends Championship.

[JWags85]

Worst case scenario is this uprising lights a fire under wojo's *ss to change the direction of this program.
We ain't DePaul and won't sit quietly on our hands

LOL at the idea that all that was missing was motivation. This won't magically make him a better in game coach or fix his inability to create a roster and rotations

[rocky_warrior]

He'd do better with less resources?

It's just a theory, and one that cannot be proven or disproven. 

We're shaving the salami pretty thin if the argument is "Wojo should be fired but don't say he's worse than ANY guy off the street".

I think it's fair game to shame all hyperbole, even if it is my own!

i got you. But that low level salesman analogy wasn't bad. Admit it.

I thought it was not good at all - but I got the point..  But whatever, I just found it odd to be called out for my analogy, not my point.

[panda]

It's just a theory, and one that cannot be proven or disproven. 

I think it's fair game to shame all hyperbole, even if it is my own!

I thought it was not good at all - but I got the point..  But whatever, I just found it odd to be called out for my analogy, not my point.

Fair enough. Here's to hoping he can do more
With more next year.

[genious expert]

I have been an MU fan for over 50 years.  I have been a season ticket holder and I am a graduate of Marquette.  Never have I been so ashamed of alleged MU basketball fans.  The anger  and malice directed toward coach wojo is beyond any sense of proportion.  I remember The Dukiet years and there is no comparison between then and now.  While coach wojo has been something of a disappointment,  he certainly does not deserve the lack of respect and indignity shown him in these posts.

You should be embarrassed by your self-serving, egotistical and entitled response to this situation.  No doubt you are not embarrassed as you are so solidly wrapped in you self-righteousness.   Compassion,understanding and respect used to be hall marks of Catholic education and foundational to the Marquette tradition.  I guess that is not so much the case now.  That is not a failure of the basketball program but the failure of the educational system.  Coach wojo has a family, how hurtful your antics mus be to them.  I apologize on your behalf.

If you are successful in your endeavor of unseating coach wojo and your champion should prove no better remember what you have done and fess up to it.  As for coach K exppect he will go somewhere else make some more coin and be successful much like Majerus was.  Good work boys and girls.

Ok

[Farley36]

Worst case scenario is this uprising lights a fire under wojo's *ss to change the direction of this program.
We ain't DePaul and won't sit quietly on our hands

Lol, that's the worst case scenario?   I'm pretty sure the worst case scenario has Marquette finishing at the bottom of the Big East and sucking repeatedly year after year.

[Jables1604]

Yeah I think a banner was unfurled during my junior year. That was #2.

Fluff, what year did you graduate?

I was Class of 1990.

[f/k/a humanlung]

The difference is night and day.  Dukiet coached in the MCC and I was at the media day in the fall of 1988 when Dukiet had one player on scholarship who was D3 level and the only recruit he signed that fall was in for an official visit and never saw time at Marquette and had limited minutes at a lower level D1 program after he transferred.

I understand if people are frustrated, but some of this stuff is getting out of control.

I believe the low water mark came a year or so later when his entire recruiting class was denied admission to MU.  I think it was 4 or 5 players.

[f/k/a humanlung]

They really aren't parallels. That's Ted's point.

On the other hand, Fluffy, the Dukiet era was probably the bottom in terms of investment in the program and resources available.

I vaguely recall a story about KO needing to go out and buy basketballs for his first practices as coach.

Wojo has had a wild abundance of financial support and state of the art facilities.

Comparing the two, Wojo has done far less with far more.

[79Warrior]

Marquette hoops fans have shown extraordinary patience the past few years.  Everyone here is on the same side and we all deserve a round of applause if anything.  The sympathy card is honestly ridiculous.  This isn't 1st grade T-Ball.  We have a coach making 2 mill a year.  WTF?  It's called big boy sports and accountability.

Not according to Dodds. He does not want to lose his court side seat. He is on his knees in full slurp mode.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yup.

Again, the only way a change is made now is if the people with money or leverage want it to happen and are willing to pay and push for it to happen.

That would be what is required. Let's see if it happens.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I have been an MU fan for over 50 years.  I have been a season ticket holder and I am a graduate of Marquette.  Never have I been so ashamed of alleged MU basketball fans.  The anger  and malice directed toward coach wojo is beyond any sense of proportion.  I remember The Dukiet years and there is no comparison between then and now.  While coach wojo has been something of a disappointment,  he certainly does not deserve the lack of respect and indignity shown him in these posts.

You should be embarrassed by your self-serving, egotistical and entitled response to this situation.  No doubt you are not embarrassed as you are so solidly wrapped in you self-righteousness.   Compassion,understanding and respect used to be hall marks of Catholic education and foundational to the Marquette tradition.  I guess that is not so much the case now.  That is not a failure of the basketball program but the failure of the educational system.  Coach wojo has a family, how hurtful your antics mus be to them.  I apologize on your behalf.

If you are successful in your endeavor of unseating coach wojo and your champion should prove no better remember what you have done and fess up to it.  As for coach K exppect he will go somewhere else make some more coin and be successful much like Majerus was.  Good work boys and girls.

Hawk you're getting a lot of crap for this, and I don't agree with everything you say, and I do want Wojo fired, but I appreciate the point you are bringing up. Wojo has done a poor job and deserves to be fired. But that doesn't change the fact that he is a human being and a father to two young boys. I don't necessarily "feel" for Wojo as $2 million a year can soften a lot of blows. But I do feel for his family who have to endure all the vitriol that is thrown his way. That can't be easy. I couldn't imagine having a public figure for a father and having to listen to people boo him, call for him to lose his job, cuss him out, and probably a lot worse than what gets posted on this board. I'm sure they do their best to shield them from the worst of it but it has to be impossible to keep all of it out.

[mcderjim]

We did win the TBT !  Oh

[willie warrior]

Unironically the best troll post this site has ever seen. Bravo

That guy is a solid Wojo-Dukiet homer.

[Silent Verbal]

Hawk you're getting a lot of crap for this, and I don't agree with everything you say, and I do want Wojo fired, but I appreciate the point you are bringing up. Wojo has done a poor job and deserves to be fired. But that doesn't change the fact that he is a human being and a father to two young boys. I don't necessarily "feel" for Wojo as $2 million a year can soften a lot of blows. But I do feel for his family who have to endure all the vitriol that is thrown his way. That can't be easy. I couldn't imagine having a public figure for a father and having to listen to people boo him, call for him to lose his job, cuss him out, and probably a lot worse than what gets posted on this board. I'm sure they do their best to shield them from the worst of it but it has to be impossible to keep all of it out.

I don't know how to say this without sounding sh!tty, so I'm just gonna say it.

Wojo is the coach of a big time sports team.  When he signed on the dotted line, he knew what he was getting into.  I think its unfortunate that he's in the position of having to shield his family from the fallout of his doing a crappy job, but as Don Draper said, "That's what the money's for."  If you factor in his former salary as a Duke assistant, Wojo has probably made around $20 million coaching college basketball.  His children's grandchildren are set for life.  He's also a very, very minor celebrity.  If he stepped down today and moved out of Milwaukee, neither he nor his family would ever even hear the word "Marquette" again.

Is he a human being?  Yes.  But this is the life he's chosen.  What you wrote is true of any famous coach, actor, politician, whatever.  It's unfortunate, but it comes with the territory.

[hairy worthen]

Hawk you're getting a lot of crap for this, and I don't agree with everything you say, and I do want Wojo fired, but I appreciate the point you are bringing up. Wojo has done a poor job and deserves to be fired. But that doesn't change the fact that he is a human being and a father to two young boys. I don't necessarily "feel" for Wojo as $2 million a year can soften a lot of blows. But I do feel for his family who have to endure all the vitriol that is thrown his way. That can't be easy. I couldn't imagine having a public figure for a father and having to listen to people boo him, call for him to lose his job, cuss him out, and probably a lot worse than what gets posted on this board. I'm sure they do their best to shield them from the worst of it but it has to be impossible to keep all of it out.

I agree. The money these coaches/athletes make has nothing to do with how they should be treated as humans. They should be held accountable for their own actions as well.  Pretty hypocritical to say we should treat all people with respect, except if they make 2 million per year, then they are dirt.

Having said that, if a coach isn't performing to expectations, he should be held accountable. There is nothing wrong with firing a coach for under-performing and it does come with the territory. The problem is it should have never gotten to this point. The longer they wait to pull the plug, the worse this will get. It is not fair to the fans, the program and to Wojo to drag this out and hem and haw. Either pull the damn plug or come out and  make some type of statement of support or direction for the program.