To Fire or not to fire. That is the question

[hawk]

I like Wojo but I love Marquette Basketball.  It occurs to met that both sides miscalculated when hiring Wojo.   MU thought they were getting the son of K and Wojo thought he could breath Duke into MU, sadly both were wrong. 

W is no K and MU is not Duke.  I think both sides need to rethink the marriage.  That said I would not fire Wojo, yet.  I would not argue to the death with anyone that Wojo is a really good coach.  I would argue that he is not a really bad coach.  While his ability is questionable his overall numbers are not.  He has a winning record and while upside down in conference play he is not if you discount his 1st season's record.

He made the NCAA twice and the NIT once and would have made the NCAA last season.  He recruits well and has another top 25 class coming in next year.  Hardly a death knell for a program.

My issue isn't getting players it is his inability to keep them.  I don't like have 3 slots open for next season and I don't like filling them on the run through a transfer portal.  He should already have players to develop over time.   While the bar is low, this year may have been his best coaching year. 

He actually changed lineups for effect during the season  and attempted changing defenses some.  Possibility of a light going on in his head. 

Firing a coach is always a big chance to fail as well as succeed. 

If Wojo did get fired who would be the candidate to take his place?

edit: paragraphs are your friend.

[Loose Cannon]

I like Wojo but I love Marquette Basketball.  It occurs to met hat both sides miscalculated when hiring Wojo.   MU thought they were getting the son of K and Wojo thought he could breath Duke into MU, sadly both were wrong.  W is no K and MU is not Duke.  I think both sides need to rethink the marriage.  That said I would not fire Wojo, yet.  I would not argue to the death with anyone that Wojo is a really good coach.  I would argue that he is not a really bad coach.  While his ability is questionable his overall numbers are not.  He has a winning record and while upside down in conference play he is not if you discount his 1st season's record.  He made the NCAA twice and the NIT once and would have made the NCAA last season.  He recruits well and has another top 25 class coming in next year.  Hardly a death knell for a program.  My issue isn't getting players it is his inability to keep them.  I don't like have 3 slots open for next season and I don't like filling them on the run through a transfer portal.  He should already have players to develop over time.   While the bar is low, this year may have been his best coaching year.  He actually changed lineups for effect during the season  and attempted changing defenses some.  Possibility of a light going on in his head.  Firing a coach is always a big chance to fail as well as succeed.  If Wojo did get fired who would be the candidate to take his place?

Well since you mention Coach K his 5 at Army (W/L  73-59) and next 2 at Duke  (W/L 27-30) Total W/L 100-89 were not outstanding.  He hit his Stride later.  Like  Forest Gump noted.
life surprises.

[Jables1604]

I felt strange earlier today. Felt like I was craving something and for the life of me couldn't figure out what it was.

Then I check in on Scoop and see that there is a new thread on whether or not Wojo should be fired.

Then I realized what I had been searching for all day...another Fire Wojo post...

[5DollarPitcher]

I felt strange earlier today. Felt like I was craving something and for the life of me couldn't figure out what it was.

Then I check in on Scoop and see that there is a new thread on whether or not Wojo should be fired.

Then I realized what I had been searching for all day...another Fire Wojo post...

Honest question - are you related to Wojo?

[bilsu]

I just looked at today's basketball scores. I was surprised to see Duke just won in the first round of ACC tournament to go one game over .500. We will go one game over .500 if we win tomorrow in the first round of Big East tournament.
Wojo is accomplishing the same as Coach K this year with less talent.

[CountryRoads]

I think for the long term sake of the program you need to make a change. Unless Wojo is just blind or deaf or both, he has to have felt unwanted or under appreciated at MU lately. That feeling sucks in any job. That's puts us in a no win situation. They suck next year, that sucks for us. They do really well next year, that also sucks for us because the guy will likely give us all the finger and head out of town and we'll be starting over anyway. The way I see it, we have only one more *potential* good team under Wojo max. I guess it depends if you think that's worth it.

[pbiflyer]

Honest question - are you related to Wojo?

I'm a NoJo and I thought the exact same thing.

[Uncle Rico]

I'm a NoJo and I thought the exact same thing.

The topic has been beaten to death.  In damn near every thread.  What else is there to add? 

[BallBoy]

To Fire or not to fire.  That is the question that needs to be asked every single day.

[GoldenWarrior11]

He will be back and, frankly - at this point - he should come back as well (as weird and as up-and-down this roller coaster has been).

We have won four of our last five games.  There is tremendous optimism for next year, between returning players and incoming freshmen.  I think he is back regardless, but if he can win a game or two in the BET, it can really have a huge impact going into next season.  We have not gotten the results or the consistency under Wojo, but this is also the first year in several years the team is playing some of its best basketball at the end of the season.  This might very well be a turning point for the program - which I am hoping is the case. 

Now, if we get blown out in our one and only game in the BET (and that is our last game), the heat is on for next year.  No doubt.

[panda]

He will be back and, frankly - at this point - he should come back as well (as weird and as up-and-down this roller coaster has been).

We have won four of our last five games.  There is tremendous optimism for next year, between returning players and incoming freshmen.  I think he is back regardless, but if he can win a game or two in the BET, it can really have a huge impact going into next season.  We have not gotten the results or the consistency under Wojo, but this is also the first year in several years the team is playing some of its best basketball at the end of the season.  This might very well be a turning point for the program - which I am hoping is the case. 

Now, if we get blown out in our one and only game in the BET (and that is our last game), the heat is on for next year.  No doubt.

Winning games we're supposed to win is refreshing. Losing big to the only team with a pulse, UConn, is disconcerting.

[Jables1604]

Honest question - are you related to Wojo?

God, you're just a gigantic tool.

[panda]

God, you're just a gigantic tool.

So no?

[Jables1604]

The topic has been beaten to death.  In damn near every thread.  What else is there to add?

This is exactly why I posted why I did.

I can't stand Wojo. I also can't stand coming on this board and seeing the same people posting the exact same things in numerous threads.

We get it. 5 Dollar Bitcher wants Wojo gone. Same with Fartley36. Same with me.

The difference is I don't feel the need to constantly remind everyone of that fact each and every time I log on here.

[panda]

This is exactly why I posted why I did.

I can't stand Wojo. I also can't stand coming on this board and seeing the same people posting the exact same things in numerous threads.

We get it. 5 Dollar Bitcher wants Wojo gone. Same with Fartley36. Same with me.

The difference is I don't feel the need to constantly remind everyone of that fact each and every time I log on here.

[Viper]

Hawk, you mention a light going on in Wojo's head. Hmm.  I'd say with Wojo and Fluffy, no chance.

[Jables1604]

Mad? Over a college basketball message board?  nah...

Not even 5 Dollar Bitchers little d*ck energy can mess with my happy.

[panda]

Mad? Over a college basketball message board?  nah...

Not even 5 Dollar Bitchers little d*ck energy can mess with my happy.

[5DollarPitcher]

Mad? Over a college basketball message board?  nah...

Not even 5 Dollar Bitchers little d*ck energy can mess with my happy.

You do seem mad.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

The topic has been beaten to death.  In damn near every thread.  What else is there to add?

Nada

[BM1090]

Winning games we're supposed to win is refreshing. Losing big to the only team with a pulse, UConn, is disconcerting.

North Carolina and Xavier were both quality wins. DePaul and Butler, not so much.

[panda]

North Carolina and Xavier were both quality wins. DePaul and Butler, not so much.

Xavier is not a quality win. UNC is a good win and a huge morale booster, but this isn't your typical UNC team.

[CowtownWarrior]

Pro(Wo)jo!!!  Keep him.  Our graduating seniors are class acts and have improved drastically so, Wojo can develop talent. 

Last season was our real chance for a tourney win and how it ended cannot be put on our coach.

...just my non-expert opinion but I feel next year will be a good one!!!

[panda]

Pro(Wo)jo!!!  Keep him.  Our graduating seniors are class acts and have improved drastically so, Wojo can develop talent. 

Last season was our real chance for a tourney win and how it ended cannot be put on our coach.

...just my non-expert opinion but I feel next year will be a good one!!!

I don't think a sane person would've predicted any more victories at the end of last season if covid didn't happen.

[naginiF]

This is exactly why I posted why I did.

I can't stand Wojo. I also can't stand coming on this board and seeing the same people posting the exact same things in numerous threads.

We get it. 5 Dollar Bitcher wants Wojo gone. Same with Fartley36. Same with me.

The difference is I don't feel the need to constantly remind everyone of that fact each and every time I log on here.

Dude, ignore 5, Farley and Panda. I've managed enough people in my life to know that anyone this emotionally/personally invested in something they have no control over is either dealing with something that they can't control in their lives but wish they could (career, marriage, family illness, etc) or are just not emotionally secure.

In this case the only exception is if they are a parent of a player or a mega donor. I don't get the sense they are either of these.