Player Grades this year?

[vogue65]

What's all this + & -? We went to marquette where it's A AB B BC D CD D

You left out F. 

[MU1980]

I dunno about grades, but I've described DJ Carton as "the best player in the Big East...for five minutes a game."

So what's that, a C?

Exactly. For about 5-10 minutes of every game  I think that DJ Carton is an NBA type player and the rest of the game he turns into a very average player that doesn't seem to be really motivated.  How can someone look so good, so focused and so skilled for a few minutes every game, but then look like a completely different player the rest of the game?  Doesn't make sense.  And those good 5 minutes change around every game; sometimes it is early, sometimes in the middle and sometimes at the end of the game.  He has taken over some games at the end, but also had some brutal turnovers in crunch time just from lazy passes or too much dribbling. 

[Galway Eagle]

Exactly. For about 5-10 minutes of every game  I think that DJ Carton is an NBA type player and the rest of the game he turns into a very average player that doesn't seem to be really motivated.  How can someone look so good, so focused and so skilled for a few minutes every game, but then look like a completely different player the rest of the game?  Doesn't make sense.  And those good 5 minutes change around every game; sometimes it is early, sometimes in the middle and sometimes at the end of the game.  He has taken over some games at the end, but also had some brutal turnovers in crunch time just from lazy passes or too much dribbling.

Part of me wonders if it's just lack of enthusiasm donning the Jersey. I'm not trying to read into anything but maybe transferring here + joining a rough team that's not going to the tournament has made him a bit apathetic while watching his former teammates crush it this year.

[MuggsyB]

Part of me wonders if it's just lack of enthusiasm donning the Jersey. I'm not trying to read into anything but maybe transferring here + joining a rough team that's not going to the tournament has made him a bit apathetic while watching his former teammates crush it this year.

I would say no, he's just been very erratic.  And by the way the starting guards at Ohio St. are better college players than Carton at this juncture.  Now in his defense he came back from a long layoff and has below mediocre perimeter help.  However, he has shot poorly, been hesitant throughout games, has kicked the ball away constantly, missed critical FT's, and disappears for prolonged stretches. 

I realize this is some strong criticism but the young man is super talented and the key to us having any success.  The most talented players, when they are playing poorly, need to be scrutinized the most.   We're talking about a kid who should be 1st team BEast and dynamic on both ends of the floor.

[BCHoopster]

You forget one thing, does not have a quick release on his shot and really no jump shot which is surprising. Needs to work on changing his form, to inconsistent

[GooooMarquette]

Part of me wonders if it's just lack of enthusiasm donning the Jersey. I'm not trying to read into anything but maybe transferring here + joining a rough team that's not going to the tournament has made him a bit apathetic while watching his former teammates crush it this year.

I might agree if DJ's inconsistency appeared as the season wore on. But he has been fluctuating between 'wow' and 'just ok' from the opening tip back in November.

If Wojo can figure out how to get a consistent performance out of him, the sky is the limit.

[MuggsyB]

I might agree if DJ's inconsistency appeared as the season wore on. But he has been fluctuating between 'wow' and 'just ok' from the opening tip back in November.

If Wojo can figure out how to get a consistent performance out of him, the sky is the limit.

Tremendously talented kid Goooo.  I would suggest he axe the yo-yo dribbling and use his blow by downhill speed for starters.  Once he gets into the paint better decisions need to be made but he must relentlessly attack and put pressure on the defense.  Whether to create or score/draw fouls.  He has the athleticism to live at the FT line and should be dropping far more dimes.  I'm hoping for less hesitation in general and ruthless/no mercy attack mode far more often. 

[1SE]

Would it be an incomplete grade if everyone played really well this season?

Yes. Final grades aren't out. If DG puts us on his back and carries us to a BET and a S16 I would certainly ly have a different take on his year. I'm all for these kinds of threads but in the silly season

Midterm grades or even regular season grades would be fine. But there's no logic to the timing of this thread.

[GooooMarquette]

Tremendously talented kid Goooo.  I would suggest he axe the yo-yo dribbling and use his blow by downhill speed for starters.  Once he gets into the paint better decisions need to be made but he must relentlessly attack and put pressure on the defense.  Whether to create or score/draw fouls.  He has the athleticism to live at the FT line and should be dropping far more dimes.  I'm hoping for less hesitation in general and ruthless/no mercy attack mode far more often.

Agreed. He can be devastating when he uses that blow-by first step to get into the paint, but he seems to hesitate too often. At this point in the season, there would seem to be little downside to Wojo telling him to drive, drive, drive.

[panda]

Yes. Final grades aren't out. If DG puts us on his back and carries us to a BET and a S16 I would certainly ly have a different take on his year. I'm all for these kinds of threads but in the silly season

Midterm grades or even regular season grades would be fine. But there's no logic to the timing of this thread.

Fair enough. I misunderstood.

[bilsu]

I might agree if DJ's inconsistency appeared as the season wore on. But he has been fluctuating between 'wow' and 'just ok' from the opening tip back in November.

If Wojo can figure out how to get a consistent performance out of him, the sky is the limit.

I do not think Wojo can push him because of his issues. He would of quit just like he did at Ohio St.

[TedBaxter]

I do not think Wojo can push him because of his issues. He would of quit just like he did at Ohio St.

I try to research things about someone before I post about them, especially when they have had mental health issues.  You might want to follow this technique.

[GooooMarquette]

I do not think Wojo can push him because of his issues. He would of quit just like he did at Ohio St.

Did his problems at Ohio State stem from being given the keys to run the offense, or otherwise being too challenged? I've never heard that.