Be honest, did you want Butler to pull it off?

[Hards Alumni]

Losing is a means to an end at this point.  Let's leave nothing to chance.

[The Lens]

In college hoops, the chance to win your conference tourney keeps me hoping that "this" game is the game it all turns around & clicks. 

I can think Wojo should be replaced and still be happy when he wins.  I want him to win.

I WANT TO BE WRONG.

[mu_hilltopper]

Hmmmm....Two moderators have different views of Wojo-Dukiet."Theres somethin strange happenin here"--Buffalo Springfield

Wait <checks notes> rocky is a Projo?

(I have no notes.)

[MU82]

I will never, ever, ever root against my alma mater's men's basketball team.

[shoothoops]

Every game is a want to win, and also an expected win going into the game. I don't think I have ever played, coached, or rooted for a team, not only wanting the team to win, but also expecting it to win, every game regardless of circumstances. When the game is over, more specific, balanced discussion and evaluation can be had. Never before a game. If that happens it may be time to explore other interests.

[MU82]

Every game is a want to win, and also an expected win going into the game. I don't think I have ever played, coached, or rooted for a team, not only wanting the team to win, but also expecting it to win, every game regardless of circumstances. When the game is over, more specific, balanced discussion and evaluation can be had. Never before a game. If that happens it may be time to explore other interests.

I also usually expect victory, though I will admit that there have been stretches during my decades as a Marquette fan that I knew victory was unlikely. However, I always expect our team to be competitive, to play hard until the very last possession.

I definitely think we can beat Creighton again, though I sure would like to see Justin be available.

[Galway Eagle]

I also usually expect victory, though I will admit that there have been stretches during my decades as a Marquette fan that I knew victory was unlikely. However, I always expect our team to be competitive, to play hard until the very last possession.

I definitely think we can beat Creighton again, though I sure would like to see Justin be available.

If we beat Creighton again I may hesitantly let myself be hurt again big if though but it's also require taking care of business against Butler and Depaul

[MU82]

If we beat Creighton again I may hesitantly let myself be hurt again big if though but it's also require taking care of business against Butler and Depaul

Every loss stings. And this season it seems, half the wins sting, too. Tough crowd.

[Lennys Tap]

Every game is a want to win, and also an expected win going into the game. I don't think I have ever played, coached, or rooted for a team, not only wanting the team to win, but also expecting it to win, every game regardless of circumstances. When the game is over, more specific, balanced discussion and evaluation can be had. Never before a game. If that happens it may be time to explore other interests.

Every game is a want to win but I guess I'm more of a realist than you. I always think victory is possible but not always likely.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Of course, I always have to cheer for MU to win.

It's not like we can have a "tank-a-thon" to end up with a higher draft pick.

[Hards Alumni]

Every loss stings. And this season it seems, half the wins sting, too. Tough crowd.

I think what happens is we get some early big wins (two over top 10 teams) and then we lose three very winnable games (Depaul, Prov, SJU) and then have the next game in hand (Butler) and nearly choke that away like the others.

That is going to leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth.  It is hard to have realistic expectations after such a strong start.

[MuggsyB]

No fan of the MU program would root against the team under any circumstances.  Ever.

[Farley36]

I find myself indifferent to the outcome.  Don't really care if they win or lose because at this point it's pretty meaningless.  There is nothing about this team or the future to really be excited about with this coach and with the current regime at Marquette.  Having a top flight program doesn't seem to be the goal.

[MUDPT]

The question that really needs to be answered is, "How does the rest of the world view us?"

By now, we know the Nojos basically rule and predominate Scoop. Most of us either have fond, fading memories of the Al years or lived through the excitement of the Buzz years. We have a level of excellence expectation that's not being met -- and shows little hope of being met.

But I have no clue what the non hard-core Warrior fan thinks. Do people who take an interest in our program but are not fanatical about it think the same as we do? Do the "butts in seats" who would normally show up if we had an audience think this program is in deep trouble? What's our television ratings like?

My fear is that as bad as things are, they could get far worse. Look at Vanderbilt. While their football sucks, they could count on having a competitive basketball team in the SEC year in and year out. They have a 15,500 seat arena and used to pack it. While their reputation was never as good as our's, they've been consistently strong until they hired their version of Coach Wojo -- Kevin Stallings.

Now they are the butt end of the SEC, routinely trampled on by that conference's equivalent of Depaul. They've gone from a big deal in Nashville to, "what have you done for me lately." In a city with NFL football and NHL hockey have strong and growing followings, Vanderbilt is the incredible shrinking butterfly.  This is a good comparison because Nashville has a similar amount of major sports to Milwaukee and the region faces competition from a state school three hours away (though, I admit, Vol football is on life sport right now).

So the question is, "can we stop it before it sinks to Depaul or Vanderbilt level?"

The Athletic ran their Big East Q&A about the season with two writers.  Asked if there were any coaches that would be fired, Leito was the only mentioned.  I get the feeling that most outside MU thought this season was a down season post Markus and that's what it looks like.  From the outside.

[burger]

If this game went into overtime or was a minute longer......

WOJO would be putting spin on another 20 point opponent comeback thru hustle and grit......

Two things we show little of.....

[MU82]

I think what happens is we get some early big wins (two over top 10 teams) and then we lose three very winnable games (Depaul, Prov, SJU) and then have the next game in hand (Butler) and nearly choke that away like the others.

That is going to leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth.  It is hard to have realistic expectations after such a strong start.

I understand. But Creighton would have been happy to have had any win over Butler rather than the loss they suffered.

[MU82]

The Athletic ran their Big East Q&A about the season with two writers.  Asked if there were any coaches that would be fired, Leito was the only mentioned.  I get the feeling that most outside MU thought this season was a down season post Markus and that's what it looks like.  From the outside.

I ran those quotes in another thread. I'll repeat them here:

Charlotte Carroll: The Big East has five coaches who arrived in 2017 or later, and there is a sense of stability in the old names where a lot of turnover seems unlikely. The "Will Jay Wright go to the NBA" talk seems to happen every year, but with the Sixers job filled last offseason, that's even more unlikely. In terms of more conventional coaching changes, it's unlikely Georgetown's Patrick Ewing is going anywhere after an off year, leaving DePaul the most likely and sole opening. The Blue Demons have had just one winning season since Dave Leitao took over the program again in 2015.

C.J. Holmes: The only coach I'd say might be in danger of losing his job is Leitao. The Blue Demons have had just one winning season (19-17, 2018-19) since Leitao returned, and haven't come close to an NCAA Tournament berth. This season DePaul is 3-7 overall, 1-7 in Big East play and 0-2 against Top 25 opponents — albeit both of those losses came in tight games. Either way it might be time to make a change.

[WarriorFan]

With the not at all stunning realization that the MU administration will look only at $$$ and that even if Wojo loses every game for the remainder of the season he will still be head coach next year... I'm always supporting my alma mater to win every game. 

The administration is not creative enough to find a way for him to resign and avoid the buyout.
No-one is going to hire him away after his recent record.
We are stuck with him until the economy and the university's finances improve, or until someone with a lot more money than me ponies up the buy-out cash. 

[The Lens]

I will never, ever, ever root against my alma mater's men's basketball team.

YOU SEXIST PIG!

[Johnny B]

YOU SEXIST PIG!

put the jack down

[MU82]

YOU SEXIST PIG!

I will always root for both the men's and women's basketball teams at my alma mater.

[Warriors4ever]

Much better

[Scoop Snoop]

Like most people here, there is no way I am ever going to hope that Marquette loses a game. I am always , always hoping for a win even if losses helps rid us of Wojo.

I am hoping that Wojo still is marketable to another major conference member, whether that is Boston College or another school that is somewhat desperate. He may decide to get a new gig at the end of this season rather than risk an even worse performance at Marquette next season that compromises his ability to coach in the P5 at another school. He may be able to make a change and still command a 7 figure salary with a few years of security. Well, that's my hope anyway.

Anybody here knowledgeable of the chance that Marquette might cut a deal with Wojo to "resign" that would be cheaper than a firing and let Wojo save face? Have other schools done anything like this?

[4everwarriors]

Nah, its all about the money, honey, hey?

[mileskishnish72]

I don't see a voting option pertaining to those of us who had Marquette -3.5

Sorry for your loss, Carl. But you should check MU's record vs. the spread.