Recruiting Needs?

[MuggsyB]

I like our 2021-22 class.  I am especially excited about Aidoo although it may take him a year.  I suppose it's conceivable a Senior will come back but I doubt it. One skill-set I would like to add to the roster is a knock-down spot shooter.  I think it's vitally important.  This would be first on my wish list on the immediate transfer market. Is anybody on our radar right now?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think a switchable is at the top of the staff's list. If they can shoot, that's a bonus. Kendall Brown and DaRon Holmes were who they wanted to fill those roles, but they took their talents elsewhere. If we were to go after a frosh it would likely be either Brandin Podziemiski out of St. John's Military or a TBD late bloomer. I think the likely outcome is the staff tries to fill the need with a transfer, especially if insta-transfers become a thing.

[brewcity77]

Podziemski is definitely my top target if they are looking at a freshman, but I have a feeling the transfer market will be oversaturated with options, so I would understand them waiting.

[wadesworld]

Nimari Burnett would be the pipe dream for me.

[swoopem]

A slasher. I don't care if it's a freshman or transfer. It's our biggest need

[Johnny B]

burger boys eh

[tower912]

On next year's current projected roster, there is no one between Dexter and Justin, size-wise.    This really manifests against teams like Creighton or Villanova.   Villanova playing a 5-out motion punishes long slow defenders.  Running their constant pick and roll until they get a 6'8 guy on the blocks being defended by a guard and Gillespie being defended by Theo.

Switchables.   Either through recruiting or transfer.

[MuggsyB]

Ya....we could use a switchable as well. 

[hairy worthen]

Rolling stones.. wait wrong thread.

Buzz had it right with athletic switchables a spot up 3 point shooter would work also.

[CountryRoads]

Podziemski is definitely my top target if they are looking at a freshman, but I have a feeling the transfer market will be oversaturated with options, so I would understand them waiting.

This kid looks very good but afraid the blue bloods started sniffing around too soon. A 6'6 kid that can fill it up would be a perfect addition to next years team.

[vogue65]

What are the categories?
Shooter, slasher, switchable, size ?
How about well coached, athletic, high basketball I.Q., quick, team oriented shooter.
Probably hard to find, then fire Wojo.

[4everwarriors]

5 stars, aina?

[muspc2]

This may be another example of bordering on projo or nojo, but I agree that what we need is pure talent at any position. It may be the Duke background where 5* and 4* players were common, but I do not see WOJO going any farther than the talent he is able to recruit will take him. I still have hope for Symir and Oso (not so much Dexter). If he can get talent to complement what is here (assuming all stay), it would set up a team which can succeed with minimal set plays and almost no proof that defensive and offensive fundamentals are being taught. For better or worse it would seem that the talent and basketball IQ that the players come to MU with will dictate how successful WOJO's teams will be.

[panda]

This may be another example of bordering on projo or nojo, but I agree that what we need is pure talent at any position. It may be the Duke background where 5* and 4* players were common, but I do not see WOJO going any farther than the talent he is able to recruit will take him. I still have hope for Symir and Oso (not so much Dexter). If he can get talent to complement what is here (assuming all stay), it would set up a team which can succeed with minimal set plays and almost no proof that defensive and offensive fundamentals are being taught. For better or worse it would seem that the talent and basketball IQ that the players come to MU with will dictate how successful WOJO's teams will be.

We've never over achieved with the talent on Wojo's rosters. Either just barely hitting expectations or falling slightly short. The only path to success is recruiting, which thankfully seems to be a strong suit of the coaching staff.

[Hards Alumni]

We still need a Butcher, a Baker, and a Candlestick maker, aina?

[The Sultan]

We've never over achieved with the talent on Wojo's rosters. Either just barely hitting expectations or falling slightly short. The only path to success is recruiting, which thankfully seems to be a strong suit of the coaching staff.

We exceeded in 2016-17 and that's about it.  Kenpom numbers.

2019-20: Preseason: 17, Final: 31
2018-19: Preseason: 29, Final: 33
2017-18: Preseason: 49, Final: 53
2016-17: Preseason: 47, Final: 32
2015-16: Preseason: 54, Final: 97

[brewcity77]

We exceeded in 2016-17 and that's about it.  Kenpom numbers.

2019-20: Preseason: 17, Final: 31
2018-19: Preseason: 29, Final: 33
2017-18: Preseason: 49, Final: 53
2016-17: Preseason: 47, Final: 32
2015-16: Preseason: 54, Final: 97

2020-21: Preseason 36, Current: 50

Sadly continuing the trend.

[Viper]

Podziemski is definitely my top target if they are looking at a freshman, but I have a feeling the transfer market will be oversaturated with options, so I would understand them waiting.

bingo!!

[MuggsyB]

We exceeded in 2016-17 and that's about it.  Kenpom numbers.

2019-20: Preseason: 17, Final: 31
2018-19: Preseason: 29, Final: 33
2017-18: Preseason: 49, Final: 53
2016-17: Preseason: 47, Final: 32
2015-16: Preseason: 54, Final: 97

Ty FBM. 

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[dgies9156]

This may be another example of bordering on projo or nojo, but I agree that what we need is pure talent at any position. It may be the Duke background where 5* and 4* players were common, but I do not see WOJO going any farther than the talent he is able to recruit will take him. I still have hope for Symir and Oso (not so much Dexter). If he can get talent to complement what is here (assuming all stay), it would set up a team which can succeed with minimal set plays and almost no proof that defensive and offensive fundamentals are being taught. For better or worse it would seem that the talent and basketball IQ that the players come to MU with will dictate how successful WOJO's teams will be.

The only guy on this year's roster that I expect will incrementally contribute next year (meaning guys not already heavily contributing) is Oso. We knew coming in he was a bit of a project and needed to bulk up. Had this year "not counted" against eligibility, I'd have guessed Oso would have redshirted.

Symir and Dexter are in a year where they should show some promise. I just don't see it. Both appear to be mid-Major stars. They were over-recruited for a reason (as I said elsewhere) and I'm pretty confident Coach Wojo knows neither is more than a 10-12 minute a game guy.

All of this said, I think Oso may address some of our concerns at the "3", though I would like to see more depth at that position and the "4". I'm optimistic the so-far unrecruited and transfers could get us to the point where we're equal to this year. If we find a shooter somewhere, we might have a pretty decent team. But, candidly I'm not optimistic.

My fear is Marquette is becoming like the Chicago Bears -- good enough to attract interest but not good enough to compete for a national title. Good enough to get a great player or two but not good enough to be a blueblood.

[panda]

The only guy on this year's roster that I expect will incrementally contribute next year (meaning guys not already heavily contributing) is Oso. We knew coming in he was a bit of a project and needed to bulk up. Had this year "not counted" against eligibility, I'd have guessed Oso would have redshirted.

Symir and Dexter are in a year where they should show some promise. I just don't see it. Both appear to be mid-Major stars. They were over-recruited for a reason (as I said elsewhere) and I'm pretty confident Coach Wojo knows neither is more than a 10-12 minute a game guy.

All of this said, I think Oso may address some of our concerns at the "3", though I would like to see more depth at that position and the "4". I'm optimistic the so-far unrecruited and transfers could get us to the point where we're equal to this year. If we find a shooter somewhere, we might have a pretty decent team. But, candidly I'm not optimistic.

My fear is Marquette is becoming like the Chicago Bears -- good enough to attract interest but not good enough to compete for a national title. Good enough to get a great player or two but not good enough to be a blueblood.

A more apt comparison is the perpetual eight seed in the nba playoffs. Going nowhere, but hard to press the reset button.

[Its DJOver]

Why do people always think that any underclassmen is being recruited over whenever we land a recruit in their position? Before the Covid eligibility rule changes we were 100% losing Koby and there have been rumors about DJ leaving after this year since before he even stepped on campus. Bringing in backcourt players was going to be a priority no matter what Sy and Dex did this year. We always have these huge ideas that these not even freshman are going to displace players that have been learning the system and hitting the weights for two+ years, and unless the incoming player is a burger boy (Henry essentially sending Teve packing or Traci seeing the writing on the wall after a few weeks with Markus) that rarely happens. There will be room on the roster for Sy, Dex, Greg, Stevie and Kam. Even throw in Burnett or another transfer and there'd still be room for them all.

[Shooter McGavin]

2020-21: Preseason 36, Current: 50

Sadly continuing the trend.

Wait til the end of the season Brew.  We don't know anything yet.

[Knight Commission]

Agreed, we may need some talent

[Lennys Tap]

Wait til the end of the season Brew.  We don't know anything yet.

36 preseason, 68 now. Getting worse.