Seton on the dock of the bay

[rocky_warrior]

Think we all knew this team would be inexperience but its really frustrating be this careless in 3/3 of the games against teams on paper comparable to us.

We are the kings of self inflicted momentum killers. Shouldnt have lost to to these dbags.


We really don't give up though. Team is always battling so that good to see.

Agreed.  Really frustrating to be inconsistent.  But that's probably the year we're gonna' have.

[mug644]

I feel like the fast pace that MU plays (often in response to the opponent) doesn't help young guys like Garcia and Lewis. It's like they both play with too much adrenaline when they get the ball in the low post.

I suppose that's the notion of having the game slow down for them.

It has for Theo after all these years.

[Silent Verbal]

Two home losses, gotta win those, fans or no fans.  It's your arena.

I disagree with this.  They're just playing games in empty gyms.  There's no real home court advantage this season.

[muct07]

Mamu seemed to hook almost every drive and dish. Do they not call that anymore?

[shoothoops]

For not enough of the game, MU didn't match the SH effort in my opinion. Has to be for 40 minutes.

When shots aren't falling, and ball handling challenged, it's difficult to win while only drawing 4 fouls in the 2nd half. Sure in the final seconds, a few more were tacked on at the end, but drawing 4 fouls in 20 minutes wasn't going to be good enough.

For a team that can struggle on the ball on offense, MU spent a lot of time dribbling and pounding the ball into the ground, instead of moving the ball, and moving without the ball.

On defense, close outs were not good enough. Mamu at times looking like a Magic Johnson assist machine when not scoring.

MU is a win one lose one kind of team so far against the decent to good teams.

[MUfan12]

MU is a win one lose one kind of team so far against the decent to good teams.

About right for this regime.

[mug644]

Mamu seemed to hook almost every drive and dish. Do they not call that anymore?

Called it on Theo once.

[Galway Eagle]

My only real issue was with allowing that timeout after the hall player had fallen. Clear travel on replay. Beyond that, bad shooting night. Hung in and battled back.

[fjm]

unnatural carnal knowledge the refs


No what I said was unnatural carnal knowledge the refs. Both h about carnal or any of that bullshit. unnatural carnal knowledge the refs

[fjm]

No. I said unnatural carnal knowledge THE REFS

[mug644]

My only real issue was with allowing that timeout after the hall player had fallen. Clear travel on replay. Beyond that, bad shooting night. Hung in and battled back.

Totally agree.

[MUfan12]

No. I said unnatural carnal knowledge THE REFS

I liked the way they called it, save the charge call late.

I'd rather have a more physical game with less whistles than one with 50 fouls called

[Jockey]

I'll take refs like these any day. Let the guys play. Stayed away from calling touch fouls.

There were no calls that stood out as egregious.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

The charge call bothers me much more than the Koby travel, although Mamu took a good 4-5 steps on a drive earlier in the game that wasn't called so some consistency would help.

[MU82]

Agreed.  Really frustrating to be inconsistent.  But that's probably the year we're gonna' have.

Had the same thought, rock. We will win games we aren't supposed to (already have won 2) and lose games we probably shouldn't (already have lost 2). No matter who we play the rest of the way, we aren't good enough to give away possessions like we did the first half and shoot poorly most of the game.

And yet, I guess I'm crazy, but I came away fairly encouraged. Wojo let DJ play through more than a half of struggles and the kid delivered big-time down the stretch; DJ is gonna be a stud when he values the ball a little more. I hate that we lost that game, but we showed a lot of character and fight, and I'd expect nothing less.

[Silent Verbal]

The charge call bothers me much more than the Koby travel, although Mamu took a good 4-5 steps on a drive earlier in the game that wasn't called so some consistency would help.

The SHU player sold it well, but Lewis threw his shoulder into him.  Marquette didn't lose this game because of the refs.  Also, Marquette's next time down the court after the Koby travel, SHU got whistled for two quick fouls.

[brewcity77]

I have no idea how they reviewed the play where Aiken shoved Cain to the ground with a two-handed push in the chest and decided not to call anything.

I thought it was something until they showed  the replay. Cain made the most of the opposing player having two hands on his chest, but the guy didn't really have much follow through and was turning back to the ball before Cain had fallen.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

The SHU player sold it well, but Lewis threw his shoulder into him.  Marquette didn't lose this game because of the refs.  Also, Marquette's next time down the court after the Koby travel, SHU got whistled for two quick fouls.

Not blaming the refs for the loss but just like Greg got penalized for flopping against Creighton I don't think Hall should have been rewarded there.

[NotAnAlum]

MU lost this in the first 8 minutes of the game with sloppy play and turnovers.  From that point on it was even.  Without that stretch MU has a small lead at half and likely pulls away at the end.  As usual SH is the tougher team. 
If you had told me 7 years ago Willard would have built a tougher and more consistently winning program than whoever we hired to replace Buzz I would have said you were crazy and Willard will be more likely to be fired.  I don't like his style but I'd sure take his results.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

For a PG, DJ has incredibly poor dribbling skills.

[Lennys Tap]

Frustrating result but I like this team. No quit.  Ball didn't go in the basket like it did against Creighton, but the Pirates don't give a team as many easy looks as the Blue Jays do.

I evidently watched the same game as Fluffy - but not the one seen by other Scoopers. Refs were actually good, let both teams play. Don't understand the hate for Seton Hall. They have one outstanding player and a bunch of lunch pail guys who bust their asses. Tough but not dirty.

[JakeBarnes]

Frustrating result but I like this team. No quit.  Ball didn't go in the basket like it did against Creighton, but the Pirates don't give a team as many easy looks as the Blue Jays do.

I evidently watched the same game as Fluffy - but not the one seen by other Scoopers. Refs were actually good, let both teams play. Don't understand the hate for Seton Hall. They have one outstanding player and a bunch of lunch pail guys who bust their asses. Tough but not dirty.

Ball just didn't go in. It happens. On to the next one

[CountryRoads]

For a PG, DJ has incredibly poor dribbling skills.

It's a weakness of his, but he is the most athletic PG they've had in many years so he does have some strengths that offset that. He had more blocked shots and dunks tonight than we've had combined at that position in over 10 years. I'll take our chances with DJ at the point this year.

[Dr. Blackheart]

There is a principle I have learned that you should always attack height. When MU did tonight, they were successful on offense, winning points in the paint. When they didn't, they struggled. When MU cleared the press, they didn't attack the advantage, they pulled it back out and reset the offense. The results showed it.

Coming into the game, MU was very good at free throw rate but they attempted just eight free throws tonight.  PIP went MU's way 26-20 tonight. PIP+ FTM went SH's way 35-34. MU didn't push that advantage enough and lost the war of attrition. And the frosh learned some lessons tonight about life in the BE.

Btw, good defensive game overall. 1.04 Deff.  Mamu did kill us out of the doubles with 7 assists, though.

[CountryRoads]

Frustrating result but I like this team. No quit.  Ball didn't go in the basket like it did against Creighton, but the Pirates don't give a team as many easy looks as the Blue Jays do.

I evidently watched the same game as Fluffy - but not the one seen by other Scoopers. Refs were actually good, let both teams play. Don't understand the hate for Seton Hall. They have one outstanding player and a bunch of lunch pail guys who bust their asses. Tough but not dirty.

The opposing team always seems more like punks and dirty when they have beaten you 5 straight times.