Cain and Elliot

[Don_Kojis]

Both Cain and Elliot can't dribble and chew gum.   I am really sick of watching Cain and Elliot try to drive and lose the ball.  I really think Lewis should start in front of Cain.   All Cain should do is shot from a spot. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Both Cain and Elliot can't dribble and chew gum.   I am really sick of watching Cain and Elliot try to drive and lose the ball.  I really think Lewis should start in front of Cain.   All Cain should do is shot from a spot.

Thoughts on O'Tule?

[avid1010]

Both Cain and Elliot can't dribble and chew gum.   I am really sick of watching Cain and Elliot try to drive and lose the ball.  I really think Lewis should start in front of Cain.   All Cain should do is shot from a spot.

Solid analysis...

[tower912]

The problem with starting Lewis was revealed last night.   Starting Lewis makes it more likely that there will be foul trouble with our

Solid analysis...

3 bigs.    Also, starting Lewis, Theo, and Garcia means two of them have to guard on the perimeter.    Leading to more fouls.     I will forever be opposed to this suggestion.   

I want Akanno to find himself.    Then we can talk about a line up change.   

[dw3dw3dw3]

Akanno needs to find the college basketball G league to figure out how to play. Just no awareness right now. Maybe it will come quickly, but it's not there right now. He's getting minutes, so he must be doing something in practice. He's above Perez and probably competing with Greg right now.

[tower912]

He needs his legs and wind.   And he needs the game to slow down for him.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Both Cain and Elliot can't dribble and chew gum.   I am really sick of watching Cain and Elliot try to drive and lose the ball.  I really think Lewis should start in front of Cain.   All Cain should do is shot from a spot.

Cain I get the dribbling comment. I think Elliott has had some good takes this season. In the past 5 games he has only 2 turnovers.

You can't start Lewis over Cain. We have only three men who can play the 5 and making that move would put all three on the floor at once. Too big of a risk for fouls and would negatively impact rotations. Plus, Cain is a better defender than Lewis at this point.

I could hear an argument for Lewis over Garcia.

[We R Final Four]

You should email them your thoughts.
#shotfromthespot

[Silent Verbal]

Strange time for this thread, considering Elliott played a pretty solid game last night.  24 minutes off the bench.

[21Jumpstreet]

Both are playing really well at the moment.

[mhendrick]

Always cringe whenever either of them puts the ball on the floor, but Cain is playing good defense
and is one of the better rebounders on the team. Did not get to watch the game last night, but Elliot
is usually a defensive liability. Still a step slow and very weak.

[avid1010]

Yeah...cain rebounds so well for his size.  Had to be hard for Wojo to keep Lewis on the bench at the end of the game.  Kid just makes things happen.

[The Sultan]

They are who they are. When they play within themselves, they're fine. Neither the s expected to be primary options.

[Don_Kojis]

When is the last time cain led a fast break and we scored?   Usually it is a turnover.   Elliot drives and either loses the ball or takes a bad hot.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

When is the last time cain led a fast break and we scored?   Usually it is a turnover.   Elliot drives and either loses the ball or takes a bad hot.

This is a strange hill to die on. Elliott had one turnover in 24 minutes last night. He was far from the culprit of MU's issues last night.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This is a strange hill to die on. Elliott had one turnover in 24 minutes last night. He was far from the culprit of MU's issues last night.

Plus he was 1/2 from inside the arc and the 1 was good drive to the bucket for a layup. The other one wasn't a good drive and he got stuffed....but he also drew two fouls on drives and got to the line, making 3/4. 5 points on 4 possessions where Elliott drove? His slashing offense was a net positive last night.

[MU82]

I've generally been pleased with both this season, but I don't have super-high expectations for them. I hope they can be solid role players and good teammates, and they have been just that.

If Cain is hot from outside, he can be our leading scorer on a given night, and he's a plus rebounder. Elliott can create some offense. Neither is an outstanding man-to-man defender.

And yes, Cain should rarely if ever dribble.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I think they've both performed well this year. Greg has been our best help defender. Neither is the focal point and they play as if they both understand that. I see Greg's minutes holding steady now from being single digits at the start of the season.

[1SE]

What I find amazing is that neither of them looks like they've put on a pound since arriving. I know we all love Todd Smith and some guys' bodies are never built for bulk, but they both still look like 18 year old boys out there.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What I find amazing is that neither of them looks like they've put on a pound since arriving. I know we all love Todd Smith and some guys' bodies are never built for bulk, but they both still look like 18 year old boys out there.

Cain arrived on campus 175 lbs, he is now 200 lbs. Elliott arrived on campus 165 lbs and is now 180 lbs.

They bulked up since being here but I'm not sure how much more muscle either could put on at this point. They both have very long lanky frames.

[Galway Eagle]

What I find amazing is that neither of them looks like they've put on a pound since arriving. I know we all love Todd Smith and some guys' bodies are never built for bulk, but they both still look like 18 year old boys out there.

I'm not sure part of this isn't on wojo. If he sat Todd down and explained what he wants the guys to focus on strength wise .because outside Morrow and Theo. Nobody has really bulked up like Buzz's guys used to.

[The Sultan]

I'm not sure part of this isn't on wojo. If he sat Todd down and explained what he wants the guys to focus on strength wise .because outside Morrow and Theo. Nobody has really bulked up like Buzz's guys used to.

I think this is a body type issue more than anything.  How much did Vander bulk up?  Jamil?   Even Jimmy was listed at 220 as a senior, which is just five pounds heavier than he was listed as when he first joined Marquette, and is lighter than Justin Lewis is now.

[Galway Eagle]

I think this is a body type issue more than anything.  How much did Vander bulk up?  Jamil?   Even Jimmy was listed at 220 as a senior, which is just five pounds heavier than he was listed as when he first joined Marquette, and is lighter than Justin Lewis is now.

I guess I was just thinking of DJO Crowder Otule and Lazar.

[Afroman]

I have no problems with Cain starting.

With that said, can anyone recall any other four-year players who were first-year starters like Jamal?

[The Sultan]

I have no problems with Cain starting.

With that said, can anyone recall any other four-year players who were first-year starters like Jamal?

Mo Acker.