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dgies9156

Excellent article today in the Chicago Tribune (www.chicagotribune.com) as to the process by which Mitch Trubisky was selected over DeShawn Watson. Probably the best documentation of a sports management breakdown I ever read.

Proves once again why the Bears suck and why the Bears will suck as long as the McCaskeys are involved.

You had two all-world quarterbacks available and you ended up with Mitch Trubisky. Sorta like the Packers trading for Brett Favre and keeping him on the bench in favor of Don Majikowski.

DUMB!!!!!!

MU82

Having SO much fun watching Panthers-Broncos game. Not only are the Panthers getting thumped by a bad Denver team, but they keep showing clips of the SB50 loss to Denver.

Ugh.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Who was that guy wearing the Trubisky uniform?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Mark Schlereth is very talkative. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

I think Stafford gets kept by the next regime.   There just aren't better options out there and Detroit is not going to draft early enough to get a franchise QB.   But if I am wrong, Stafford may have thrown his last pass as a Lion.   That was a nasty hit on that scramble.  Not dirty.   But an illustration as to why QBs slide.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Teddy Bridgewater is just good enough to keep bad teams in games but lose them ... and to "help" good teams go 9-7 or 10-6. He is a placeholder QB. He isn't bad, but the Panthers need better.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Today was a perfect example of Sean Payton's hubris. You may "trust" Hill more, or think his versatility is better for the offense, but by the second half, the Philly secondary was shattered and on life support. And he kept trotting out a QB who couldn't attack it. The strip sack on 4th down was a perfect Taysom Hill moment. Dude has terrible pocket presence and misses receivers with absurd regularity.  Even with the early deficit, the Saints comfortably come back and win that game with any decent QB

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on December 13, 2020, 07:12:46 PM
Today was a perfect example of Sean Payton's hubris. You may "trust" Hill more, or think his versatility is better for the offense, but by the second half, the Philly secondary was shattered and on life support. And he kept trotting out a QB who couldn't attack it. The strip sack on 4th down was a perfect Taysom Hill moment. Dude has terrible pocket presence and misses receivers with absurd regularity.  Even with the early deficit, the Saints comfortably come back and win that game with any decent QB

Is Winston that bad?

Anyway that was a nice surprise as a Packer fan. Now they have three outdoor games to end the season and hopefully clinch home field.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 13, 2020, 07:14:36 PM
Is Winston that bad?

Anyway that was a nice surprise as a Packer fan. Now they have three outdoor games to end the season and hopefully clinch home field.

One is against Tractorcito in the height of Tractorcito season, though.

cheebs09

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 13, 2020, 06:00:18 PM
Mark Schlereth is very talkative.

I remember being annoyed by him on ESPN NFL shows. Never thought broadcasting was in his future. I still feel like that assessment was right.

dgies9156

Brother Fluff is right. Nice day to be a Packers fan. They played well enough to win, but damn, the defensive penalties in the second half, especially defensive holding, was a bit much.

Aaron Rodgers is something else!

Heisenberg

Quote from: dgies9156 on December 13, 2020, 12:15:52 PM
Excellent article today in the Chicago Tribune (www.chicagotribune.com) as to the process by which Mitch Trubisky was selected over DeShawn Watson. Probably the best documentation of a sports management breakdown I ever read.

Proves once again why the Bears suck and why the Bears will suck as long as the McCaskeys are involved.

You had two all-world quarterbacks available and you ended up with Mitch Trubisky. Sorta like the Packers trading for Brett Favre and keeping him on the bench in favor of Don Majikowski.

DUMB!!!!!!

While I agree with the sentiment of this post, it is unfair to blame the bears for passing on Mahomes.  He was the 10th pick so nine teams passed on him. 

Actually, if anyone had any idea how good he was going to be, all 32 teams would have been mortgaging the farm to get him.  Fact is no one knew he would be this good.

Yes, the bears made a conscious decision to pass on Watson, blame them for that.


Heisenberg

NFL Ratings Drop Leaves Networks Scrambling to Make Advertisers Whole
TV networks are using ad inventory to make good on their earlier audience commitments
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nfl-ratings-drop-leaves-networks-scrambling-to-make-advertisers-whole-11607781600

But this year, NFL ratings have taken a hit as pandemic-related postponements have pushed some games to less desirable times and the coronavirus has sidelined some star players. Unexpected competition from other sports leagues whose seasons were delayed from earlier in the year also has taken a toll on ratings.

Much of the ratings drop is attributed to the 2020 presidential election coverage siphoning away viewers and the pandemic's wreaking havoc on the league. Aside from reschedulings and some sidelined stars, the league has faced a backlash from some fans over its social justice efforts, including its embrace of Black Lives Matter. These factors are compounded by the secular decline of traditional TV viewing, in which ratings have been eroded by the uptick in ad-free streaming services.

NBC was perhaps the hardest-hit this Thanksgiving, typically a big day for NFL viewership. The Ravens-Steelers game, which originally cost advertisers an average of $1 million for 30 seconds of commercial time, drew only 11 million viewers, almost a 50% decline from the audience for last year's Thanksgiving game on NBC.

Some Thanksgiving advertisers that appeared in the NBC game on Wednesday didn't pay at all, instead accepting the commercial time as a make-good for games earlier in the season that delivered disappointing ratings, according to people familiar with the matter.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

naginiF

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on December 14, 2020, 12:54:36 PM
While I agree with the sentiment of this post, it is unfair to blame the bears for passing on Mahomes.  He was the 10th pick so nine teams passed on him. 

Actually, if anyone had any idea how good he was going to be, all 32 teams would have been mortgaging the farm to get him. Fact is no one knew he would be this good.

Yes, the bears made a conscious decision to pass on Watson, blame them for that.
Chief's management would like to have a word -

wadesworld

Quote from: naginiF on December 14, 2020, 01:28:57 PM
Chief's management would like to have a word -

Exactly. Read up on what Ried thought about him after the Chiefs worked him out. Heck, Alex Smith had them at like 12-4 and was in the MVP discussion the first half of the year Mahomes's rookie year and they traded him away.

Also, while "all 32 teams didn't mortgage the farm," not all 32 teams traded picks to move up a single spot to take a guy who would've been there had they stayed where they were and who had started one year in college.

GB Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on December 13, 2020, 05:06:28 PM
Who was that guy wearing the Trubisky uniform?

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! to a 7 yr, 200M contract

The Sultan

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on December 14, 2020, 12:54:36 PM
While I agree with the sentiment of this post, it is unfair to blame the bears for passing on Mahomes.  He was the 10th pick so nine teams passed on him. 

Actually, if anyone had any idea how good he was going to be, all 32 teams would have been mortgaging the farm to get him.  Fact is no one knew he would be this good.

Yes, the bears made a conscious decision to pass on Watson, blame them for that.


:o :o :o  They made a "conscious decision" to pass on Mahomes as well.

They made a "conscious decision" to draft a bad quarterback.  It's happened before but let's not sugar coat it here.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Aaron Jones firing his agent is probably not a good sign as far as him signing a team-friendly extension goes.  He's a good back, but I don't like tying up running backs on big contracts, but it will be a shame if he leaves.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 14, 2020, 02:01:04 PM
Aaron Jones firing his agent is probably not a good sign as far as him signing a team-friendly extension goes.  He's a good back, but I don't like tying up running backs on big contracts, but it will be a shame if he leaves.


Yep. It would be nice if he stays, but the shelf life of a RB is too short to get worked up about it.

GB Warrior

Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 14, 2020, 02:06:04 PM

Yep. It would be nice if he stays, but the shelf life of a RB is too short to get worked up about it.

The Packers getting Kenny Clark and Bakhtiari under contract gives some flexibility. If the Packers are desperate, they can franchise him.

The Sultan

Quote from: GB Warrior on December 14, 2020, 02:13:38 PM
The Packers getting Kenny Clark and Bakhtiari under contract gives some flexibility. If the Packers are desperate, they can franchise him.


I think Linsley's going to be a higher priority than Jones.  Maybe even King too, although they are going to have to shell out for Jaire soon.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

If the Packers trot out AJ Dillon on 1st and 2nd down next year, and Tyler Ervin for 3rd down next year, we will be fine.  Weber can backup either role.

I'd hate to lose Jones and Jamaal, but this is a business where you don't pay RBs... unfortunately for them.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 14, 2020, 02:01:04 PM
Aaron Jones firing his agent is probably not a good sign as far as him signing a team-friendly extension goes.  He's a good back, but I don't like tying up running backs on big contracts, but it will be a shame if he leaves.

Pack dont use the poor guy. Hes gonna look elsewhere.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

The Sultan

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 14, 2020, 03:37:18 PM
Pack dont use the poor guy. Hes gonna look elsewhere.


???  He's their leading rusher and third leading receiver.  Unless you have Dalvin Cook or Derrick Henry, this is how you use a running back these days. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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