2020-21 NFL Season

[CreightonWarrior]

Probably the most consistent performance by the packers this season. Good time to start peaking.

[MU82]

Just heard a stunning factoid: Panthers and Hornets won on the same day for the first time since October 2017.

[JWags85]

Just heard a stunning factoid: Panthers and Hornets won on the same day for the first time since October 2017.

NBA capped off a WEIRD sports day. Browns lose a near MUST win to the f-ing Jets. Chiefs sneak by a hapless Falcons team at home. Then you move to the NBA, Nets lose to the Hornets who were on a back to back. Bucks look HORRIFIC against a bad Knicks team who are also on a back to back. And the Celtics lose their second in a row, after beating the Bucks, to a Pacers team also on a back to back resting Oladipo. Pro sports can be bizarre

[MU82]

NBA capped off a WEIRD sports day. Browns lose a near MUST win to the f-ing Jets. Chiefs sneak by a hapless Falcons team at home. Then you move to the NBA, Nets lose to the Hornets who were on a back to back. Bucks look HORRIFIC against a bad Knicks team who are also on a back to back. And the Celtics lose their second in a row, after beating the Bucks, to a Pacers team also on a back to back resting Oladipo. Pro sports can be bizarre

We have some folks here who love betting on anything and everything, but your comment highlights why I pass on that activity. Sincere props for those good enough to make real money on those wagers.

[Jockey]

Hey, the Bears can sign Dwayne Haskins.

[MU82]

Hey, the Bears can sign Dwayne Haskins.

Talk about a dumpster fire. He was SOOOO bad yesterday against the Panthers, and he obviously has other issues, too.

There are coaches/OCs who believe they can "save" players like this, especially if they believe he really is talented. I mean, even Ryan Leaf got second and third chances.

[Dish]

If I were a Fins fan, I'd be both excited about my team's future, and going crazy at the "what if?". Considering where the Texans pick will end up, most likely third, it's fascinating to me if they would have drafted Herbert over Tua. If one assumes Herbert would have excelled in Miami like he is in LA, the Fins could (potentially) have gotten Sewell at 3 in 2021. They'd have a franchise QB and a franchise LT both on rookie deals. They'd still have their own first rounder, the Texans second rounder (pick 35 or 36) and their own second rounder. That's three other high end, extremely inexpensive starters. That's just the first two rounds, they can add depth or a potential starter or two from the rest of their picks.

Now they still have all that capital, and have a tough decision to make at three because Tua is still an unknown. I don't think they'd do it, but it'd be an interesting godfather offer to Jacksonville to offer Tua, both first rounders this year, and both second rounders this year for the #1 overall pick. That offer might even require next years first.

[Jockey]

I'm starting to see Josh Allen make throws I thought only ARod and Mahomes could make.

[BM1090]

I'm starting to see Josh Allen make throws I thought only ARod and Mahomes could make.

The talent is there. The consistency is not yet. Very high ceiling, obviously.

[Heisenberg]

I'm starting to see Josh Allen make throws I thought only ARod and Mahomes could make.

It seems something has clicked in his head and he put it together this year.

[Heisenberg]

A few years ago the NFL version is being sent to Siberia was Cleveland, Buffalo, and Kansas City.

How things have changed!

[MU82]

Panthers had been allowing 5000-6000 fans per game but not allowing any other than family members for season finale vs Saints. We aren't the worst COVID-19 state, but things aren't good here.

Saints would get No. 1 seed in the NFC with a win, a Packers loss and a Seahawks win, all of which are viable. Panthers are playing very hard and, at times, fairly well.

[tower912]

A few years ago the NFL version is being sent to Siberia was Cleveland, Buffalo, and Kansas City.

How things have changed!

But Detroit is eternal.   

[The Sultan]

A few years ago the NFL version is being sent to Siberia was Cleveland, Buffalo, and Kansas City.

How things have changed!

I don't think anyone ever considered Kansas City the NFL's "Siberia." 

[JWags85]

I don't think anyone ever considered Kansas City the NFL's "Siberia."

That was my thought. Beyond weather, the only time they've truly been "bad" was under Herm Edwards, and that was only a few years. Haley was bad, but they still won their division. Otherwise it was fairly regular playoff appearances going back 30 years to the start of the Schottenheimer era

[Heisenberg]

I don't think anyone ever considered Kansas City the NFL's "Siberia."

I was thinking a few years ago

KC Record

2012    2-14-0   
2011    7-9-0
2010    10-6-0
2009    4-12-0
2008    2-14-0
2007    4-12-0
2006    9-7-0
2005    10-6-0
2004    7-9-0

[MU82]

I was thinking a few years ago

KC Record

2012    2-14-0   
2011    7-9-0
2010    10-6-0
2009    4-12-0
2008    2-14-0
2007    4-12-0
2006    9-7-0
2005    10-6-0
2004    7-9-0

In Cleveland, that stretch would have been known as "the good times"!

I'm not disputing what you really said, though. (Or at least what I thought you were saying.) The teams/areas that had been considered part of the NFL wasteland is suddenly at or near the top of the heap.

One of the things I love about sports is the cyclical nature of it. That's doubly true of the NFL. That the Patriots stayed at or near the top for so long was incredible.

[Billy Hoyle]

Talk about a dumpster fire. He was SOOOO bad yesterday against the Panthers, and he obviously has other issues, too.

There are coaches/OCs who believe they can "save" players like this, especially if they believe he really is talented. I mean, even Ryan Leaf got second and third chances.

On First Take this morning one the talking heads referred to Haskins being cut as "white privilege." WTF?

It's actually a case where Rivera overruled Snyder, the guy who drafted Haskins.

[MU82]

On First Take this morning one the talking heads referred to Haskins being cut as "white privilege." WTF?

It's actually a case where Rivera overruled Snyder, the guy who drafted Haskins.

I have never seen First Take and I'm not about to start now, so I can't comment on what they did or didn't say.

Haskins really, really sucked. That I can comment on.

[jficke13]

First Take has always been produced to create inane positions to make people react strongly. I sincerely doubt there's one person alive who thinks white privilege caused Haskins to get cut... including whoever said that this morning.

[GooooMarquette]

First Take has always been produced to create inane positions to make people react strongly. I sincerely doubt there's one person alive who thinks white privilege caused Haskins to get cut... including whoever said that this morning.

The definition of clickbait.

[JWags85]

First Take has always been produced to create inane positions to make people react strongly. I sincerely doubt there's one person alive who thinks white privilege caused Haskins to get cut... including whoever said that this morning.

Same as Jemele Hill and Cari Champion asking Jake Paul if it was racist to knock out Nate Robinson. Except that was so bad that they immediately tried to back track with "it's a joke!" And got lauded for "trolling"

Lowest common denominator nonsense

[CreightonWarrior]

Yikes, word out that Bakhtiari is out for the year on an injury, maybe torn ACL. Horrible timing for him and the team. Ugh.

Also probably means he'll miss pretty much all of next season. What a gut punch.

[Dish]

Yikes, word out that Bakhtiari is out for the year on an injury, maybe torn ACL. Horrible timing for him and the team. Ugh.

Also probably means he'll miss pretty much all of next season. What a gut punch.

That's brutal, and a gigantic loss for their playoff run. I'd imagine like you mentioned, his 2021 season is in peril.

For his sake, I'm glad he signed his new paper when he did.

[MUBurrow]

If I were a Fins fan... I'd be both excited about my team's future, and going crazy at the "what if?"...
I don't think they'd do it, but it'd be an interesting godfather offer to Jacksonville to offer Tua, both first rounders this year, and both second rounders this year for the #1 overall pick. That offer might even require next years first.

Pretty much.  I was all in on Tua over Herbert going into the draft, so was relieved how it turned out at the time. Maybe its just emotional sunk cost, but I'm still bullish enough on Tua that I don't lose sleep yet on Herbert's results. Herbert is a good player and will rack up stats, but you know Tua's teammates go to his birthday party and his college skills are all still in there somewhere. So while I'm also relieved that the luster is wearing off Fields (think that will get worse again tonight) because it saves one tough decision, the Lawrence question is very real.  The Dolphins are the only team with the draft capital to realistically make a run at getting him , and if you think there's a good chance he'll be a top 3 NFL QB in 2024, you have to do it. I still think I want to build around Tua, because even if he doesn't evolve to huck it like those other guys, he doesn't have the personality to go out there and lose you games. But if Jacksonville would be willing to deal, its something Miami has to at least consider.