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MU82

Serena looks very rusty. Just dropped the first set to a dinker-and-dunker.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on June 28, 2022, 02:23:39 PM
Serena looks very rusty. Just dropped the first set to a dinker-and-dunker.

A dinker at Wimbledon?  That ain't working.  This isn't junior tennis. 

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 28, 2022, 03:17:57 PM
A dinker at Wimbledon?  That ain't working.  This isn't junior tennis.

It worked darn well in the first set, when Serena made a bazillion errors. Not well in the second, which Serena dominated.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on June 28, 2022, 03:27:30 PM
It worked darn well in the first set, when Serena made a bazillion errors. Not well in the second, which Serena dominated.

I actually loved playing dinkers .  I enjoyed annoying the hell out of them with moon balls, bringing them to the net, and then unloading on them with heavy lumber.  :)

MU82

Dinker/dunker beats the greatest ever.

Serena was totally gassed at the end. She made some great shots but had far too many mistakes and misses. She had to be rusty, and her opponent was resolute.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on June 28, 2022, 04:37:49 PM
Dinker/dunker beats the greatest ever.

Serena was totally gassed at the end. She made some great shots but had far too many mistakes and misses. She had to be rusty, and her opponent was resolute.

Whoops.  That's not a great loss although Serena is 40. 

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on June 28, 2022, 04:37:49 PM
Dinker/dunker beats the greatest ever.

Serena was totally gassed at the end. She made some great shots but had far too many mistakes and misses. She had to be rusty, and her opponent was resolute.

She had a quote in the presser leading up about how she expected to perform, and basically rolled her eyes for comedic effect with the implication that she always expects to win any tournament she enters.

But it had a lot of Tiger Woods-esque expectation to it.  The GOAT...but quite over the hill by age standards, coming off a long lay off, and hadn't won a major in half a decade.  Maybe didn't expect her to lose to an opponent outside of the top 100, but likely would have been easily handled by one of the seeded players she had coming up.

On the mens side, what a full Kyrgios experience.  I can't stand when he is a spoiled brat or doesn't try, but my god I love his game.  And for his many warts, I do appreciate his refusal to stand for any sort of racism in the sport, which he's experienced for his entire career, and will always shine a light on it.

The 5th set was vintage Kyrgios.  Coasting, up a break.  Then annoyed with himself that he chokes away a service game for the match, he proceeds to absent mindedly coast through the next 2 games.  Nearly gets broken again tied at 5-5 looking like he's going to punt it.  Then hits 2 lightning bolt serves from deuce.  Then slams the door shut to take it 7-5 and tells a fan to shove it.

"hes a loathsome offensive brute, yet I can't look away"

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on June 28, 2022, 07:24:48 PM
She had a quote in the presser leading up about how she expected to perform, and basically rolled her eyes for comedic effect with the implication that she always expects to win any tournament she enters.

But it had a lot of Tiger Woods-esque expectation to it.  The GOAT...but quite over the hill by age standards, coming off a long lay off, and hadn't won a major in half a decade.  Maybe didn't expect her to lose to an opponent outside of the top 100, but likely would have been easily handled by one of the seeded players she had coming up.

On the mens side, what a full Kyrgios experience.  I can't stand when he is a spoiled brat or doesn't try, but my god I love his game.  And for his many warts, I do appreciate his refusal to stand for any sort of racism in the sport, which he's experienced for his entire career, and will always shine a light on it.

The 5th set was vintage Kyrgios.  Coasting, up a break.  Then annoyed with himself that he chokes away a service game for the match, he proceeds to absent mindedly coast through the next 2 games.  Nearly gets broken again tied at 5-5 looking like he's going to punt it.  Then hits 2 lightning bolt serves from deuce.  Then slams the door shut to take it 7-5 and tells a fan to shove it.

"hes a loathsome offensive brute, yet I can't look away"

He's not my cup of tea, but he's got all the shots when he feels like playing hard. I didn't see his match.
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MuggsyB

Nice.  I see Isner is about to dispose of Andy Murray. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 29, 2022, 03:15:47 PM
Nice.  I see Isner is about to dispose of Andy Murray.

Good.  No one likes the British
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BM1090

Four American men into the round of 32. Seven more play tomorrow, with one assured to advance since Cressy and Sock play each other.

Would be cool if they could win three others and make up 25% of the last 32.

JWags85

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 29, 2022, 03:24:52 PM
Good.  No one likes the British

Including the Scottish...

Quote from: BM1090 on June 29, 2022, 03:37:26 PM
Four American men into the round of 32. Seven more play tomorrow, with one assured to advance since Cressy and Sock play each other.

Would be cool if they could win three others and make up 25% of the last 32.

Opelka pissed away his chance to join them cause he cant, or refuses to, do anything but bomb aces.  I am also shocked to see him seeded top 20 in a major, and that he's ranked top 20, considering he's made it past the 3rd round of a major just once, and hasn't even done well in ATP 100 tournaments.

Watch a bit of his match this afternoon.  Was absolutely worthless returning serve and any meaningful return to one of his nukes left him absolutely flummoxed.

MuggsyB

Kyrgios is extremely dangerous on this surface.  Not a fan of the guy but good luck breaking his serve if he's popping them in at a decent percentage. 

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 30, 2022, 08:02:28 AM
Kyrgios is extremely dangerous on this surface.  Not a fan of the guy but good luck breaking his serve if he's popping them in at a decent percentage.

Meh. He'll face a little adversity -- as every player does in every competitive match -- and he'll start his antics. Underhand serves, delays, arguing with the umpire and/or linespeople, trash-talking to the crowd, etc. He'll lose his shyte and then he'll lose his match.

I'll believe another result is possible for him at a major as soon as he proves otherwise.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on June 30, 2022, 10:46:06 AM
Meh. He'll face a little adversity -- as every player does in every competitive match -- and he'll start his antics. Underhand serves, delays, arguing with the umpire and/or linespeople, trash-talking to the crowd, etc. He'll lose his shyte and then he'll lose his match.

I'll believe another result is possible for him at a major as soon as he proves otherwise.

I hope you're right and think that's probably what will happen.  But man.......if that dude just played tennis, and cut the other b-ass, he's exceedingly dangerous against anyone on this surface.  The ball is zipping off of his racket and it's just too fast on his serve and the grass.  We're talking MOAB's MU82, they're not returnable.  Hopefully though he has a typical self-inflicted meltdown.  :)

JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 30, 2022, 01:02:05 PM
I hope you're right and think that's probably what will happen.  But man.......if that dude just played tennis, and cut the other b-ass, he's exceedingly dangerous against anyone on this surface.  The ball is zipping off of his racket and it's just too fast on his serve and the grass.  We're talking MOAB's MU82, they're not returnable.  Hopefully though he has a typical self-inflicted meltdown.  :)

Tsitsipas is an interesting matchup for him, cause he's not someone who will slowly and patiently bait him.  Should be a fun banger.

Speaking of meltdown, the most frustrating talent on tour, second to only Kyrgios, Shapo did more of his nonsense today.  Absolutely handled by an inferior player when he could get absolutely nothing going.

MuggsyB

Tiafoe in a good match right now. 

MuggsyB

Great draw for TIafoe.  Would be huge if he can get to the Semis. 

BM1090

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 01, 2022, 08:08:45 AM
Great draw for TIafoe.  Would be huge if he can get to the Semis.

Fritz has a pretty open path to the QF, where he'd draw Rafa. Brooksby's draw gives him a shot at the QF too. Paul will be a sizable underdog vs. Norrie but that's not an unwinnable match.

JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 01, 2022, 08:08:45 AM
Great draw for TIafoe.  Would be huge if he can get to the Semis.

Happy to see his game coming into form.  I always forget how young he is.  I love the snap he has on his forward.  His follow through motion looks really cool and sharp.  Easily my favorite of the young Americans.

Quote from: BM1090 on July 01, 2022, 01:36:04 PM
Fritz has a pretty open path to the QF, where he'd draw Rafa. Brooksby's draw gives him a shot at the QF too. Paul will be a sizable underdog vs. Norrie but that's not an unwinnable match.

And then you have Brooksby, can't stand that lemon faced brat. 

Paul is playing really good tennis, I think he's got a definite shot.

MuggsyB

Look out for Alcaraz in the next few years.  He appears to be the real deal with the game tp play on all surfaces.  I really hope we see a Djoker/Alcaraz QF. 

JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 01, 2022, 03:28:04 PM
Look out for Alcaraz in the next few years.  He appears to be the real deal with the game tp play on all surfaces.  I really hope we see a Djoker/Alcaraz QF.

In the next few years?  More like now.  He's already won 2 tournaments in 2022 and has 2 major QFs basically before he was 19.  He's top 10 in the world for a reason.  He's arrived and a threat in anything he enters

MuggsyB

Quote from: JWags85 on July 01, 2022, 03:38:09 PM
In the next few years?  More like now.  He's already won 2 tournaments in 2022 and has 2 major QFs basically before he was 19.  He's top 10 in the world for a reason.  He's arrived and a threat in anything he enters

What I mean is he may be able to be the next dominant player and win a bunch of slams.

MuggsyB

Gaiff playing now on ESPN.  I said at the French I think grass will ultimately be her best surface and clay probably her worst.  We'll see what happens but I think her power game is suited for Wimbledon.

MuggsyB

Brooksby got Cooksbyed.

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