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Author Topic: Tennis  (Read 3132 times)

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Re: Tennis
« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2020, 03:36:06 PM »
9 more American Women wins Tuesday. 3 for the Men.

3 time Champion Kim Clijsters making a comeback fell in a tight 3 setter. Still hits great. Stomach muscle and lack of match fitness the difference. Let one slip away but credit her opponent who stepped up a lot.

There are 9 Women in the combined fields that are moms.

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« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2020, 06:15:50 PM »
Naomi Osaka, hoping to wear 7 different masks for 7 different matches to win the tournament, reveals mask #2 tonight:

Elijah McClain
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« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2020, 06:19:09 PM »
It’s being looked into as we speak. JJ Wolf from Cincinnati, Ohio, Ohio St. One of the former top Juniors and top college player, won his first round match at age 21 at the U.S. Open this year...

Several photos have emerged some alone, some with friends where he is either playing the Circle Game, or flashing White Power signs. Neither is a good look for him.

I can say a few of the American Men’s players have some outspoken extreme right wing views, including Sandgren, Harrison, even Isner.

The stereotype of tennis players would indicate that but I don't follow the sport to have known those things. 

Wolf popped into my feed because the last few years has seen a plethora of teen to twenties doing it and some are naive, some are willing, and doesn't seem to fade away.

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« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2020, 07:09:09 PM »
The stereotype of tennis players would indicate that but I don't follow the sport to have known those things. 

Wolf popped into my feed because the last few years has seen a plethora of teen to twenties doing it and some are naive, some are willing, and doesn't seem to fade away.

With regards to American Tennis Players, or tennis players in general, those few guys and a few more standout because it is actually very different from many others and their beliefs. Very.

The U.S. Open has gone way out of its way to make it clear they are 100% supportive of Black Lives. Billie Jean KIng, Martina Navratilova, Chrissie Evert, John McEnroe, Andre Agassi, Andy Roddick, on and on outspoken supporters, not to mention a growing long list of black players... historically and currently have been very progressive on these issues.  Agassi for example has raised several hundred million dollars and has helped open over 80 charter schools across the country for Black and Hispanic children. Many modern era current and recently retired players are very progressive on these issues. The bulk of Roger Federer's foundation does work in Africa. Some individual people are more outspoken than others. Others do more speaking with their actions. Andy Murray is one of the more insightful speakers on many of these issues. He's also a huge champion for Women and other issues.

Is the stereotype you have in your head wealthy White suburban Conservative American Country Club kids?

Professional tennis, and, even Junior tennis is way larger than that. Professional tennis is truly a Global sport, very diverse racially, socio-economically, etc...

But yes there is a small group of American Men's tennis players who's ideologies would raise some eyebrows, yes. But just about all of the American Men's players on tour are friends with each other regardless of those views. The American women players are on average very progressive. You may find a different isolated example here or there..

You will definitely find a some othere who just don't like to speak up/share their views publicly.

There are way more Black and Asian professional tennis players than in the oast. Those two segments stand out quite a bit racially for growth, which is good for the sport.

There's a podcast called "Behind The Racquet".... where professional tennis players speak in their own words. It's run by fledgling American professional tennis player and New Yorker Noah Rubin and a few others.... They also sell merchandise (Noah and his girlfriend) where 30% of every sale goes to NAMI NYC which is a great cause. Many issues are covered at various points. Worth checking out some time.








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« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2020, 11:07:00 AM »
So many great examples of modern day tennis and modern day American Tennis, at the U S. Open...A 2nd round match today features:

1) Just turned 16 year old Katrina Scott is into the 3rd round of the U.S. Open. Her mother, a ballet dancer from Iran, emigrates to the U.S. at age 17 to find breast cancer treatment for her mother, settles in L.A., marries, has Katrina who tried ballet and figure skating first but liked tennis. .....frequently wearing Black Lives Matter apparel....(her paternal grandmother is African American) recently training in Columbus, Ohio.

Her 2nd round opponent is Amanda Anisimova, just turned 19 last week...parents emigrated from Russia for a better life. Born in New Jersey, relocated to Florida, older sister played at UPenn. Coached by her dad until his tragic heart attack at a young age last year. Had moved up into the top 20's.

5 more American Women wins yesterday.  19 year old American male Brandon Nakashima falls to 5th seed Alexander Zverev but not before taking a set and pushing him a bit. From San Diego, finished his first year at UVA and turned pro.


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« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2020, 11:21:52 AM »
With regards to American Tennis Players, or tennis players in general, those few guys and a few more standout because it is actually very different from many others and their beliefs. Very.

The U.S. Open has gone way out of its way to make it clear they are 100% supportive of Black Lives. Billie Jean KIng, Martina Navratilova, Chrissie Evert, John McEnroe, Andre Agassi, Andy Roddick, on and on outspoken supporters, not to mention a growing long list of black players... historically and currently have been very progressive on these issues.  Agassi for example has raised several hundred million dollars and has helped open over 80 charter schools across the country for Black and Hispanic children. Many modern era current and recently retired players are very progressive on these issues. The bulk of Roger Federer's foundation does work in Africa. Some individual people are more outspoken than others. Others do more speaking with their actions. Andy Murray is one of the more insightful speakers on many of these issues. He's also a huge champion for Women and other issues.

Is the stereotype you have in your head wealthy White suburban Conservative American Country Club kids?

Professional tennis, and, even Junior tennis is way larger than that. Professional tennis is truly a Global sport, very diverse racially, socio-economically, etc...

But yes there is a small group of American Men's tennis players who's ideologies would raise some eyebrows, yes. But just about all of the American Men's players on tour are friends with each other regardless of those views. The American women players are on average very progressive. You may find a different isolated example here or there..

You will definitely find a some othere who just don't like to speak up/share their views publicly.

There are way more Black and Asian professional tennis players than in the oast. Those two segments stand out quite a bit racially for growth, which is good for the sport.

There's a podcast called "Behind The Racquet".... where professional tennis players speak in their own words. It's run by fledgling American professional tennis player and New Yorker Noah Rubin and a few others.... They also sell merchandise (Noah and his girlfriend) where 30% of every sale goes to NAMI NYC which is a great cause. Many issues are covered at various points. Worth checking out some time.

This is a good rundown. Thank you.

I suppose most of my stereotype is limited to American men's players. Certainly the big name international guys are known enough to have heard of their efforts and causes but since we've had a lull in top level title winning Americans over the last decade or so the news items tend to be negative which fills in the blanks for me. Happy to read there's a push to open up access as you never know where the next champion is living. 

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« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2020, 12:54:01 PM »
This is a good rundown. Thank you.

I suppose most of my stereotype is limited to American men's players. Certainly the big name international guys are known enough to have heard of their efforts and causes but since we've had a lull in top level title winning Americans over the last decade or so the news items tend to be negative which fills in the blanks for me. Happy to read there's a push to open up access as you never know where the next champion is living.

And, as I said, the viewpoints of individuals vary widely. Google James Blake and NYC Police sometime. He was waiting outside his hotel, when he was shockingly jumped and roughed up by NYC Police. (They had the wrong person. James is Black)  James speaks about this around the country. Former U.S. Player, went to Harvard, now Miami Tourney Director, as well as tv commentator. He’s doing this event for ESPN, also does others.

Another good 2nd round matchup today, was 2 seed American Sofia Kenin, she won Australia, vs Leylah Fernandez 17 year Canada phenom. Kenin’s parents are Russian, mother a nurse, she came to the U.S. as a baby. Fernandez’ dad was an Ecuadorian soccer player and mom of Filipino descent. They moved from Montreal to Florida.

For me, where do they train and when gives me a snapshot of their path. There are many paths and many ways of doing it. The USTA has long preferred junior players only train with them. This is a mistake in my opinion, and narrow minded thinking. Just like any other sport, there are many ways to be successful. Ans sometimes being a support system of secondary coaching os better. There have been some inconsistencies with how different players are treated and sponsored over the years.

Anyway, the previous two above trained at Kass Tennis and Nick Saviano separately. These few here did with Rick Macci, others.

Coco Gauff, American teen sensation last year, from Florida, parents were a hooper at Georgia St. and a track star at Florida St. Dad’s coach but also gets support from Mouratoglou Academy.   

Back to American Men, there is a pocket right now of some with those previously mentioned beliefs bit it is some not all, and many before and after them do not hold those views. But many are friendly with one another.

But the talent level and depth of American Women's tennis players is very, strong, especially in comparison to the Men. Many others, Robin . Montgomery who has trained with Frances Tiafoe, many others. As I believe I mentioned, the ten highest paid world athletes are tennis players. That doesn't hurt either.
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« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2020, 01:11:14 PM »
American Katrina Scott walked onto court with a Black Lives Matter shirt.

https://twitter.com/usopen/status/1301538758051860480?s=19

Playing a little later, Sloane Stephens with a No Justice No Peace mask.

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« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2020, 08:55:37 PM »
The son of Diamond Mine workers in Sierra Leone, West Africa, ...who left civil war behind and emigrating to the U.S....from homelessness, to sleeping on fold up tables in a small back office as a kid, American, Frances Tiafoe, 22, has reached the round of 32 at the U. S. Open for the first time after surviving 5 sets over four hours.



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« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2020, 08:28:52 AM »
5 more American Women wins. Two more suspended mid match as heavy rains moved in the evening. Muguruza and Konta out.

2 American Men advance. Murray and Dmitrov out.

Opportunities today for Taylor Fritz, Ann Li, Jen Brady, Jessie Pegula.....as well as Vickery ans McNally.

Weekend popcorn matches, Serena Williams vs an in form Sloane Stephens, two past champions. Anisimova v Sakkari, Jabeur v Kenin, Keys v Cornet.....Fucsovics v Tiafoe, Wolf v Medvedev, all Saturday.






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« Reply #60 on: September 04, 2020, 11:35:24 AM »
In her quest for 7, Naomi Osaka's mask today is:

Ahmaud Arbery.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2020, 06:59:02 PM by shoothoops »

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« Reply #61 on: September 04, 2020, 12:57:19 PM »
With McNally's win today, 11 American Women have reached the Round of 32, the most in 31 years (1989). Combined with the 3 Men, it's the most combined in 18 years (2002)


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« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2020, 05:47:25 PM »
The Shapo-Fritz match was INSANE. What a comeback. Shapo looked dead to rights, figured even when he was up 40:15 with Fritz serving for the match that he’d fade like he had. But then he finished the game, got through a nervy service game to even it at 5-5, then blew Fritz away in the 5th after sneaking through the tiebreak. Rough for another young American talent but Shapo is one of my favorite guys to watch. His backhand is amazing and he plays with a surplus of emotion and energy

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« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2020, 06:34:23 PM »
The Shapo-Fritz match was INSANE. What a comeback. Shapo looked dead to rights, figured even when he was up 40:15 with Fritz serving for the match that he’d fade like he had. But then he finished the game, got through a nervy service game to even it at 5-5, then blew Fritz away in the 5th after sneaking through the tiebreak. Rough for another young American talent but Shapo is one of my favorite guys to watch. His backhand is amazing and he plays with a surplus of emotion and energy

So many chances for Fritz to close it out in the 4th ....and when he didn't, the air was out of the balloon. Good example where the NYC crowd would have been roaring for Fritz there. Definitely a factor. But you have to be able to win in front of 22k as well as in the back of a dark alley.

Great effort from Taylor. Shapovalov has a little bit more experience in those situations despite his youth an almost complete player. Elite talent, as is fellow Canadian Felix Auger Aliassime who also is still alive. All three, 22, 21, 20, are just getting started and turning the elite corner. Felix was lights out last night v Andy Murray. Dominant

Shapovalov coming in at 17 has been 13 and knocking on door of top 10. Taylor coming in at 24. He is clearly a top 20 caliber player and improving. He now has a go to backhand now to to with his service game. Felix sits at 21, and is a future top 10 player as well. Some of the best up and comers in North America for the Men.
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« Reply #64 on: September 05, 2020, 01:21:47 PM »
Promising aggressive 21 year old American JJ Wolf, one of the nation's best college player after his 3 seasons at Ohio St. had a nice run to the round of 33 until running into one ot the World's best, Daniil Medvedev.

Just 2 errors in 53 first set points for Medvedev (can't hit through him need angles and slice to reset points) set the tone.

Wolf learned perhaps a bigger off court lesson this week. This ws about recently surfaced past online photos with circle game hand gestures with friens that resemble modern White Power symbols. Ever learning, Wolf showed up for warm ups in a Black Lives Matter tee.




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« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2020, 08:59:21 AM »
For the first time ever, 3 Canadian Men are into the second week, Round of Sixteen at the U.S. Open. (The defending Women's Champion not entered due to injury is also Canadian) The Round of 16 is represented by 12 different countries. 22 year old Frances Tiafoe represents the U.S.

In the Women's Round of 16, 10 different countries are represented. The U.S. has the most at 4. And two others live have lived and trained in the U.S. since they were very young. Jen Brady, Shelby Rogers, Serena Williams, and Sofia Kenin represent the U.S.






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« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2020, 12:25:32 PM »
25 year old American Jen Brady becomes the first former college tennis player (UCLA) to make the U.S. Open Women’s singles Quarterfinals since 1994, with a convincing 6-1,6-4 win over Former World Number 1 and 3 time Grand Slam Champion Angie Kerber. 

She took a chance and spent the off season in Germany with a new coach, new physio. Different player. Playing lights out tennis for some time. Big serve, added a kicker, big forehand, pace, depth, margin. Wins over Sharapova, Barty, Muguruza, Svitolina, Gauff, Garcia, Kerber, on and on this season.



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« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2020, 01:44:52 PM »
25 year old American Jen Brady becomes the first former college tennis player (UCLA) to make the U.S. Open Women’s singles Quarterfinals since 1994, with a convincing 6-1,6-4 win over Former World Number 1 and 3 time Grand Slam Champion Angie Kerber. 

She took a chance and spent the off season in Germany with a new coach, new physio. Different player. Playing lights out tennis for some time. Big serve, added a kicker, big forehand, pace, depth, margin. Wins over Sharapova, Barty, Muguruza, Svitolina, Gauff, Garcia, Kerber, on and on this season.

If she keeps advancing and eventually will face Williams, I can hear the pre-match interview already:

EVERT: "You are playing a great opponent next. What do you think of her?"

JEN BRADY: "Serena! Serena! Serena!"
“They are dying. That’s true. It is what it is.”

"It affects virtually nobody.”

“I’ll be right eventually.”

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« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2020, 03:44:56 PM »
Holy Shyte!

Djokovic out after hitting a linesman with the ball.

It was an accident that he hit her in the throat, but it still was a tennis ball struck out of anger and the rule is clear.

The only way Djokovic doesn't win this tournament is if he gets hurt or if he somehow implodes. Well, he somehow imploded.

2020 ... what an effen year!
“They are dying. That’s true. It is what it is.”

"It affects virtually nobody.”

“I’ll be right eventually.”

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« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2020, 04:23:52 PM »
The Djokovic DQ was the correct call. Intent doesn’t matter in this instance. He had zero intent of course. He already did something earlier in the same match. Hopefully the lines person is doing well.

Some of the 2020 chatter has been whether or not Novak’s COVID-19 behavior has been in the reckless or not responsible category. Here he is being held responsible for his “reckless” behavior.

Djokovic has won 17 Grand Slams. The remaining field? Zero. This was the first loss of 2020 for Djokovic.
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« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2020, 08:31:03 PM »
27 year old Charleston, SC native Shelby Rogers was ranked 174th in the World coming off of knee surgery in 2018. She trained hard, getting into the best shape of her life. She won an ITF event before the pandemic.

After a strong pandemic restart including her first ever win over Serena Williams in Kentucky, today, she gets the gutsy 3 set thriller win over 2 time Grand Slam winner Petra Kvitova (saved four match points) to move into her first ever U.S. Open quarterfinals. Very high level both players.



« Last Edit: September 06, 2020, 08:35:20 PM by shoothoops »

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« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2020, 10:07:18 PM »
In the quest for 7, tonight's Naomi Osaka mask is:

Trayvon Martin

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« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2020, 11:51:10 AM »
Americans Taylor Townsend and Asia Muhammad advance in dominant fashion to the U.S. Open Women's Doubles Semifinals. They are seeking their 12th title together, first Grand Slam title.


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« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2020, 08:26:40 PM »
Serena Williams is into the U.S. Open Women's Quarterfinals with a 3 set blinder over Greece's Maria Sakkari (who has really played some great tennis) avenging her Cincinnati loss.

Several moms making a run at the Open in both singles and doubles.

With the win the updated list here of Men and Women players with 100 wins at Arthur Ashe Stadium (opened 1997):

Serena Williams. That's the list.

Next closest?

Federer 77
Djokovic 74
Venus Williams 72



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« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2020, 01:18:26 PM »
If she keeps advancing and eventually will face Williams, I can hear the pre-match interview already:

EVERT: "You are playing a great opponent next. What do you think of her?"

JEN BRADY: "Serena! Serena! Serena!"

People will learn her name.

Jennifer, Jenny, Jen, Brady has advanced to the United States Open Tennis Semifinals for the first time.

3 Moms (not Brady) are in the Women’s Quarterfinals.

6 of the 8 Men’s Quarterfinalists are under age 25.

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