Tennis

[Shaka Shart]

I mean, to be fair, that could be 1000% true.  It doesn't mean that if he was at the top of his game he wouldn't still be greatly outclassed.  If people didn't dislike the guy, you could read that whole thing as being disappointed with himself for looking terrible in a cool opportunity.  It was also interesting that he played with Sock who is also retired and now trains to beat JayBee's ass in pickleball.

The highlights were amusing.  There was a point where Ackman actually hit a really nice
backhand slice volley running towards the net.  And then the very next point shown, he launched a half volley 20 feet over Tomic's head.

I generally like Roddick, but I'm pretty sure that there was already animosity because Ackman is a big financial support of the PTPA and the ATP/WTA hate it, and Roddick/Martina are part of the ATP/WTA PR machine.

Oh I don't disagree.  Hence why I focused on the last 2 years where he's really made a leap.

And Zverev has been a top 5 guy much longer than Fritz, but he's had the same issues for even longer.  So I'd def give Fritz the nod at this point too.

I dunno man I don't think we need to both sides this.

I think it's moreso the "I always play with college and retired pros" when the dude looks like a 3.5 player. That serve motion is JANKY. With his mechanics you're not all the sudden keeping pace with that level just when you're off camera.

His nice slices comes from the fact that he only hits slices. All his relatively flat shots/returns are gimmes that any normal doubles players would hit his feet or kill his partner with. They were humoring him.

 Their opponents were spraying balls all over because it's challenging to slow down the pace of the racquet to the point of eliminating the spin he would not be able to handle.


The point being, American men's tennis needs work. It already suffers from challenger level being extremely unforgiving monetarily to try and make/stay on the tour and it's a pretty bad look here that he's whining afterwards that he was nervous after clearly buying his way in.

Im guessing this gets some extra rules on partners for wild cards going forward. He should go play a charity Pro Am and stop being an indignant weirdo

[MuggsyB]

I dunno man I don't think we need to both sides this.

I think it's moreso the "I always play with college and retired pros" when the dude looks like a 3.5 player. That serve motion is JANKY. With his mechanics you're not all the sudden keeping pace with that level just when you're off camera.

His nice slices comes from the fact that he only hits slices. All his relatively flat shots/returns are gimmes that any normal doubles players would hit his feet or kill his partner with. They were humoring him.

 Their opponents were spraying balls all over because it's challenging to slow down the pace of the racquet to the point of eliminating the spin he would not be able to handle.


The point being, American men's tennis needs work. It already suffers from challenger level being extremely unforgiving monetarily to try and make/stay on the tour and it's a pretty bad look here that he's whining afterwards that he was nervous after clearly buying his way in.

Im guessing this gets some extra rules on partners for wild cards going forward. He should go play a charity Pro Am and stop being an indignant weirdo

I basically agree with Roddick.  This was a sanctioned tournament, not a pro-am.  And this guy saying "I play with college players and retired pros" is analogous to Stefan Djokovic saying he plays with a pro.  He's probably an above average plus 60 club player. 

[MuggsyB]

Having now watched the 4th set tiebreaker with Fritz/Alcaraz, Taylor got way too tentative on a few points.  When he served at 6-4, he hit his spot with a 134 mph laser on the line.  How Alcaraz got that back in play, with a one handed block backhand, may have caught Fritz off guard. 

[Uncle Rico]

Having now watched the 4th set tiebreaker with Fritz/Alcaraz, Taylor got way too tentative on a few points.  When he served at 6-4, he hit his spot with a 134 mph laser on the line.  How Alcaraz got that back in play, with a one handed block backhand, may have caught Fritz off guard. 

He's garbage

[MuggsyB]

He's garbage

Let's just calm down.  The guy has worked his ass off.  But beating Carlos or Jannik is extremely difficult. 

[Uncle Rico]

Let's just calm down.  The guy just worked his ass off.  But beating Carlos or Jannik is extremely difficult. 

He'd win if we treated our athletes with more contempt for losing.

[MuggsyB]

He'd win if we treated our athletes with more contempt for losing.

Contempt is for those that are evil or colossal jagoffs.  Frustration and analyzing everything is not contempt. 

[Uncle Rico]

Contempt is for those that are evil or colossal jagoffs.  Frustration and analyzing everything is not contempt. 

That's the problem.  We treat them too soft.  Say what you will about the Hussein boys but they knew how to handle athletes who didn't win

[MuggsyB]

That's the problem.  We treat them too soft.  Say what you will about the Hussein boys but they knew how to handle athletes who didn't win

And I know how to treat the Hussein Boys.  It rhymes with Farkness. 

[MuggsyB]

I really hope Amanda comes through today but Iga could be a problem.  Fantastic story if Anisimova wins. 

[tower912]

Agatha Harkness?

[Uncle Rico]

And I know how to treat the Hussein Boys.  It rhymes with Farkness. 

I'm disappointed in you.  You're way too soft and that's why we have American athletes embarrassing the troops across the world this week.  It's time we start introducing them to darkness if they don't shape up.

[MuggsyB]

Iga is really locked in.  She's absolutely ripping her forehead which she had been struggling with.  Amanda has to find a way to subjugate her early nerves. 

[MuggsyB]

I'm disappointed in you.  You're way too soft and that's why we have American athletes embarrassing the troops across the world this week.  It's time we start introducing them to darkness if they don't shape up.

I'm disappointed in you.  You're way too soft and that's why we have American athletes embarrassing the troops across the world this week.  It's time we start introducing them to darkness if they don't shape up.

I know when and when not to activate darkness.  Your hostility is a  bit high this morning. 

[MuggsyB]

Not good.  Amanda can't find her serve. 

[MuggsyB]

Yikes!!!