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[withoutbias]

So nice ta have an open mind, aina?🤣

Open mind on...what? We have 3.5 years of Trump in office...

[4everwarriors]

If not for the Chinese virus we'd all be living large, hey?

#GodBlessAmerica

[reinko]

If not for the Chinese virus we'd all be living large, hey?

#GodBlessAmerica

If grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa.

What's your point?

[4everwarriors]

Let's just lay the whole fookin' pandemic chit show on Trump's doorstep, hey?

[The Sultan]

Let's just lay the whole fookin' pandemic chit show on Trump's doorstep, hey?

No. But let's not pretend he handled it well either. Or is handling it well now.

[reinko]

Let's just lay the whole fookin' pandemic chit show on Trump's doorstep, hey?

Difference between blame, responsibility and accountability.  POTUS is not to blame for the virus, but as the leader of this nation he is responsible for our federal response, and the electorate can judge how accountable they will hold him and his administration.

[4everwarriors]

Were this not an election year, I'm guessing this would have been handled completely different from the beginning.

[The Sultan]

Were this not an election year, I'm guessing this would have been handled completely different from the beginning.

That's a pretty damning statement.

[Uncle Rico]

Were this not an election year, I'm guessing this would have been handled completely different from the beginning.

The buck stops here.

[reinko]

That's a pretty damning statement.

I'm confused, can you interpret?

Deep state sabotaging tin foil hat line of logic?

[Jockey]

Were this not an election year, I'm guessing this would have been handled completely different from the beginning.

Wow. That is the biggest condemnation of Trump that I have seen on this board. Never would have thought you would admit this.

[rocket surgeon]

be nice if we could get back to "scandal free" gubmint, eyna?

[4everwarriors]

Wow. That is the biggest condemnation of Trump that I have seen on this board. Never would have thought you would admit this.

Oh yeah I forgot that is a one sided issue. My apologies 

[Elonsmusk]

The country as a whole has been better under Clinton and Obama than it has under Bush or Trump. So I would be good with that.

Perhaps. Yet, the country was doing better than it had in most significant (economic) benchmarks in 50+ years since Trump's election - until the once in a 100 year pandemic struck.

Truly, for those who despise Trump, the pandemic was a God send. The longer lockdowns persist and the economy are shut down the more unrest it will cause and further increase the chances Trump doesn't get re-elected.

[withoutbias]

Were this not an election year, I'm guessing this would have been handled completely different from the beginning.

I agree wholeheartedly. The new phrase should really be "America first...unless it comes to Trump looking bad. Then eff the hundreds of thousands of Americans that will die. We have an election to win!"

MAGA.

[4everwarriors]

Pandemic saved Woj and may save Senile Joe, hey?

[withoutbias]

Perhaps. Yet, the country was doing better than it had in most significant (economic) benchmarks in 50+ years since Trump's election - until the once in a 100 year pandemic struck.

Truly, for those who despise Trump, the pandemic was a God send. The longer lockdowns persist and the economy are shut down the more unrest it will cause and further increase the chances Trump doesn't get re-elected.

Pandemic saved Woj and may save Senile Joe, hey?

That's the difference between "MAGAs" and "libs." I'd happily take 4 more years of Trump if he helped save the lives of Americans and saved the economy. Instead he worried about votes and sacrificed both. Just because you'd be celebrating deaths of humans and an economy to MAGA doesn't mean it works the other way.

[Elonsmusk]

Difference between blame, responsibility and accountability.  POTUS is not to blame for the virus, but as the leader of this nation he is responsible for our federal response, and the electorate can judge how accountable they will hold him and his administration.

And Joe would have welcomed more travelers from China. Pelosi urged more San Franciscans to go mingle on Chinatown and Cuomo mandate more nursing homes take on COViD patients - ALL AFTER THE RACIST TRUMP issued travel ban from China on Jan 31.

For real - it's easy to play armchair QB and criticize Trump Admin response, but when you have the leadership of the Dem party making boneheaded decisions and suggestions like the above as late at mid-late March?  Cmon Man.

There was zero playbook for a pandemic this large AND China was NOT forthcoming at all about the devastation, numbers, contagious nature. Yet half of this country is more angry at Trump than China. Pretty sad commentary as to where we are as a country.

[The Sultan]

I'm confused, can you interpret?

Deep state sabotaging tin foil hat line of logic?

I mean if Trump acted the way he did because it is an election year, that means he definitely put his own interests before the country's.

[GooooMarquette]

Were this not an election year, I'm guessing this would have been handled completely different from the beginning.

So...#trumpfirst, #americasecond?

[withoutbias]

And Joe would have welcomed more travelers from China. Pelosi urged more San Franciscans to go mingle on Chinatown and Cuomo mandate more nursing homes take on COViD patients - ALL AFTER THE RACIST TRUMP issued travel ban from China on Jan 31.

For real - it's easy to play armchair QB and criticize Trump Admin response, but when you have the leadership of the Dem party making boneheaded decisions and suggestions like the above as late at mid-late March?  Cmon Man.

There was zero playbook for a pandemic this large AND China was NOT forthcoming at all about the devastation, numbers, contagious nature. Yet half of this country is more angry at Trump than China. Pretty sad commentary as to where we are as a country.

The pandemic response team Trump cut would've certainly been useful, hey?

Also, hysterical you think the administration did the best they could with the information they had. They had much more information than what they acted on from their very own people, but President Xi did a great job so who did we trust, our own or the enemy China? Hmm. I agree. Very sad that we have a president who ignores his own intel to trust China's leadership. Absolutely wild.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

"Sleepy Joe" might be old and past his mental peak, but Trump isn't? I mean seriously, how does this guy get people to actually believe this stuff? The only difference in mental capacity between the two is one will put people in place who deserve to be there based on experience and ability to do a job and he will get out of their way and let them do it, while the other will put his rich white male friends in place and then overrule them and fire them when they try to do what is right vs. what Trump wants. And the second is a pathological liar.

Trump us the one sleeping through a pandemic

[The Sultan]

And Joe would have welcomed more travelers from China. Pelosi urged more San Franciscans to go mingle on Chinatown and Cuomo mandate more nursing homes take on COViD patients - ALL AFTER THE RACIST TRUMP issued travel ban from China on Jan 31.

For real - it's easy to play armchair QB and criticize Trump Admin response, but when you have the leadership of the Dem party making boneheaded decisions and suggestions like the above as late at mid-late March?  Cmon Man.

There was zero playbook for a pandemic this large AND China was NOT forthcoming at all about the devastation, numbers, contagious nature. Yet half of this country is more angry at Trump than China. Pretty sad commentary as to where we are as a country.

Yeah you are letting him off the hook. There were dozens of things he could have done better with but he chose to largely ignore the problem.

It's all been laid out here already so I'm not going repeat it. And it's not going to matter anyway. 

[Uncle Rico]

And Joe would have welcomed more travelers from China. Pelosi urged more San Franciscans to go mingle on Chinatown and Cuomo mandate more nursing homes take on COViD patients - ALL AFTER THE RACIST TRUMP issued travel ban from China on Jan 31.

For real - it's easy to play armchair QB and criticize Trump Admin response, but when you have the leadership of the Dem party making boneheaded decisions and suggestions like the above as late at mid-late March?  Cmon Man.

There was zero playbook for a pandemic this large AND China was NOT forthcoming at all about the devastation, numbers, contagious nature. Yet half of this country is more angry at Trump than China. Pretty sad commentary as to where we are as a country.

The buck stops here

[Jockey]

I don't take responsibility at all.