If we lose out, to we still get an NCAA bid?

[Silkk the Shaka]

If we get trounced by Seton Hall on Thursday, which is likely, I think this is a legitimate question. Numbers-wise we might be in, but anyone worth their weight in geldings knows this is barely an NIT team at this point. Mentally & physically soft with players that appear to have actively checked out on the coach.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

If we get trounced by Seton Hall on Thursday, which is likely, I think this is a legitimate question. Numbers-wise we might be in, but anyone worth their weight in geldings knows this is barely an NIT team at this point. Mentally & physically soft with players that appear to have actively checked out on the coach.

I don't think it looks like anyone has "checked out" at all.

[brewcity77]

I'm sick of watching this too, but a top-30 NET, 5 Q1 wins, 11 Q1+2 wins, and a winning Q1+2+3 record is not getting left out period.

Honestly, there's a part of me that wishes we could make the NIT because I want 4-5 more games of Markus and it's more likely to happen there, but the reality is we're still safely in. Even if we lose to SHU by 30 on Thursday.

I'm trying to be as nice as possible right now, but there is no way we miss out. Not with the changes that have been made to the selection process.

[WarriorPride68]

I'm sick of watching this too, but a top-30 NET, 5 Q1 wins, 11 Q1+2 wins, and a winning Q1+2+3 record is not getting left out period.

Honestly, there's a part of me that wishes we could make the NIT because I want 4-5 more games of Markus and it's more likely to happen there, but the reality is we're still safely in. Even if we lose to SHU by 30 on Thursday.

I'm trying to be as nice as possible right now, but there is no way we miss out. Not with the changes that have been made to the selection process.

If we lose Thursday, which would be 7 of 8. It wouldn't be shocking. This was from lunardi late last night which wasn't reflected in latest bracketology

[brewcity77]

If we lose Thursday, which would be 7 of 8. It wouldn't be shocking. This was from lunardi late last night which wasn't reflected in latest bracketology

Lunardi is well known, but isn't really good at brackets. Recency is not at all a factor considered and there just aren't enough bid thieves out there. I regularly keep an eye on Delphi, Harkins, and bracketville. Of those three, only bracketville has us in the last 8 and there are still 6 teams between us and the cut. The difference is we can't damage our resume further. Those teams behind us can and there's a big difference in resume quality between us and the first teams out.

[WarriorPride68]

Lunardi is well known, but isn't really good at brackets. Recency is not at all a factor considered and there just aren't enough bid thieves out there. I regularly keep an eye on Delphi, Harkins, and bracketville. Of those three, only bracketville has us in the last 8 and there are still 6 teams between us and the cut. The difference is we can't damage our resume further. Those teams behind us can and there's a big difference in resume quality between us and the first teams out.

Agreed on Lunardi, I believe he was ranked in the 50's on overall accuracy in recent years amongst various outlets.

But if bid stealers come out in swarms when tournaments start this week it'will be interesting next Sunday

[WarriorPride68]

Another interesting comparison, Purdue for example who universally is considered out of the field:



Net
26 MU
33 Purdue

Kenpom
23 Purdue
30 Marquette

Sagarin
23 Purdue
40 Marquette

KPI
34 MU
56 Purdue

BPI
19 Purdue
30 Marquette

Another loss Thursday, some bid stealers in conference tournaments & bubble teams advancing in tourny's could make for an entertaining selection show

[bilsu]

I'm sick of watching this too, but a top-30 NET, 5 Q1 wins, 11 Q1+2 wins, and a winning Q1+2+3 record is not getting left out period.

Honestly, there's a part of me that wishes we could make the NIT because I want 4-5 more games of Markus and it's more likely to happen there, but the reality is we're still safely in. Even if we lose to SHU by 30 on Thursday.

I'm trying to be as nice as possible right now, but there is no way we miss out. Not with the changes that have been made to the selection process.

This is the way I also feel. the only thing I had to root for lately was Markus scoring. There will be no need to go to games next year.

I think we will be in the play in game, if we lose to Seton Hall, which might give Markus one extra game.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Who gives a unnatural carnal knowledge about the NIT. You guys are nuts for wanting NIT over NCAA for any reason. Give me an ncaa bid over an NIT championship all day.

[muguru]

Who gives a unnatural carnal knowledge about the NIT. You guys are nuts for wanting NIT over NCAA for any reason. Give me an ncaa bid over an NIT championship all day.

Hey! Don't knock the NIT! Chicos frequently uses it as a "feather" in Wojo's Coaching cap.

[brewcity77]

Who gives a unnatural carnal knowledge about the NIT. You guys are nuts for wanting NIT over NCAA for any reason. Give me an ncaa bid over an NIT championship all day.

I don't want the NIT. But I want as much Markus as I can get. That's the only thing left to watch for.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I don't want the NIT. But I want as much Markus as I can get. That's the only thing left to watch for.

I want ncaa tournament wins. It's unlikely, but I'm looking forward to playing someone that hasn't already played us. Probably won't go well, but Markus plenty good to shoot this team to 2nd weekend if yesterday's Sacar shows and we can get basically anything from the rest of the team.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Are they really putting 7 from the Pac12 in the tournament?

[brewcity77]

Are they really putting 7 from the Pac12 in the tournament?

Wouldn't surprise me. If anything is indicative of how bad the bubble is, that's it.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Are they really putting 7 from the Pac12 in the tournament?

I am biased, but don't see how ASU, Stanford and UCLA can be ahead of Xavier in the pecking roder

[Johnny B]

I almost feel like its embarrassing for a major program to hang an NIT championship banner up lol. Screw the NIT. Rather get an ncca bid as a 16 seed than an nit championship. Markus has zero interest in anything besides one final shot at an ncca run at this point. Zero

[Silent Verbal]

I don't want the NIT. But I want as much Markus as I can get. That's the only thing left to watch for.

Markus has been here for 4 years.  I've seen enough of him, or at least enough where I have no desire to watch him score 120 points in three meaningless NIT games.  I'll take the excitement of one Tourney game any time.

[CountryRoads]

Don't forget we may also get to see Markus playing somewhat affiliated ball with MU in TBT. Him and Rowsey would be fun to watch again in that event. Have no interest in the NIT, especially this year.

[bilsu]

I don't want the NIT. But I want as much Markus as I can get. That's the only thing left to watch for.

+1000

[bilsu]

I almost feel like its embarrassing for a major program to hang an NIT championship banner up lol. Screw the NIT. Rather get an ncca bid as a 16 seed than an nit championship. Markus has zero interest in anything besides one final shot at an ncca run at this point. Zero

If this is true, than the team can get valuable experience playing without him in the NIT.

[Silent Verbal]

If this is true, than the team can get valuable experience playing without him in the NIT.

How "valuable" was the 2018 NIT for us when we choked down the stretch last year?

[WI inferiority Complexes]

I'll take the excitement of one Tourney game any time.

I agree with you, but then remember Ja killing us last year, and at least consider the benefits of a NIT run.

[bilsu]

Don't forget we may also get to see Markus playing somewhat affiliated ball with MU in TBT. Him and Rowsey would be fun to watch again in that event. Have no interest in the NIT, especially this year.

I can understand being disappointed to be in NIT.

However, I will be going to any NIT game at the Al to cheer on my team.

The team can do without entitled fans like you.

[Silent Verbal]

I agree with you, but then remember Ja killing us last year, and at least consider the benefits of a NIT run.

There are zero benefits to an NIT run.  2018 showed that. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Guys, Marquette isn't going to the NIT.