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[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

How many players actually came here because Wojo recruited them or did Stan actually recruit them?

Wojo's assistants are the lead recruiters. Wojo is the closer and recruits all of the players.

[muguru]

I mean if I had to "settle" for a guy...I might give Nate Oates a call before TJ. But I'd be really curious to see who MU could land if they paid 4-5 mill per year or more(which they could easily do).

[Lennys Tap]

There were having accreditation issues at the time and the transcripts were a mess. Additionally, a lot of his credits were not transferable(mostly the ones from Georgia South Tech) to MU at the time though a lot of that was waived.......

An example of some of the mess that Howard Junior College has gotten itself into over the last two decades
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/08/31/financial-sanctions-howard-university

Jae Crowder went to Howard University??

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I mean if I had to "settle" for a guy...I might give Nate Oates a call before TJ. But I'd be really curious to see who MU could land if they paid 4-5 mill per year or more(which they could easily do).

Why do you think that is something that MU can easily do?

[The Sultan]

I mean if I had to "settle" for a guy...I might give Nate Oates a call before TJ. But I'd be really curious to see who MU could land if they paid 4-5 mill per year or more(which they could easily do).

Why do you think the Marquette could "easily" pay a coach $4 to $5 million?  Based on what?

[GoldenWarrior11]

Why do you think that is something that MU can easily do?

And, on that point, is MU really going to pay, roughly, $8 million for Wojo's buyout (at $2 million annually, with a contract that runs through '24).  Very, very unlikely (especially since we are still projected safely into the tournament). 

So, we are looking at, minimum (not including assistant salaries), around $12-$13 million for an entire coaching change, no (assuming we would now be paying $4-$5 million?)? 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And, on that point, is MU really going to pay, roughly, $8 million for Wojo's buyout (at $2 million annually, with a contract that runs through '24).  Very, very unlikely (especially since we are still projected safely into the tournament). 

So, we are looking at, minimum (not including assistant salaries), around $12-$13 million for an entire coaching change, no (assuming we would now be paying $4-$5 million?)?

And that's only if we don't have to buyout the 4 or 5 million dollar coach.

[5DollarPitcher]

And, on that point, is MU really going to pay, roughly, $8 million for Wojo's buyout (at $2 million annually, with a contract that runs through '24).  Very, very unlikely (especially since we are still projected safely into the tournament). 

So, we are looking at, minimum (not including assistant salaries), around $12-$13 million for an entire coaching change, no (assuming we would now be paying $4-$5 million?)?

Exactly why we shouldn't have given him a contract extension for no reason.

[Silent Verbal]

And, on that point, is MU really going to pay, roughly, $8 million for Wojo's buyout (at $2 million annually, with a contract that runs through '24).  Very, very unlikely (especially since we are still projected safely into the tournament). 

So, we are looking at, minimum (not including assistant salaries), around $12-$13 million for an entire coaching change, no (assuming we would now be paying $4-$5 million?)?

Jesus, is that really what his buyout would be if we wanted to let him go?

[The Sultan]

Jesus, is that really what his buyout would be if we wanted to let him go?

Not necessarily.  As was mentioned when it was signed, it depends on the language in the contract.  Wojo may have sacrificed more years and the stability on the recruiting trail that comes with that, for a lower buyout.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Exactly why we shouldn't have given him a contract extension for no reason.

It wasn't for no reason. Universities typically keep coaches extend out at least 5 years so the coach can assure recruits that he will be there until they graduate.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Exactly why we shouldn't have given him a contract extension for no reason.

Unless someone reported differently, we have no idea what the buyout is--or for that matter that the contract extension increased or decreased the existing buyout in the old contract. 

[5DollarPitcher]

We honestly should have just let his contract run out.  Then changed the combination on the doors at the Al.

[🏀]

We honestly should have just let his contract run out.  Then changed the combination on the doors at the Al.

Some people just don't understand what they're being told.

[5DollarPitcher]

Some people just don't understand what they're being told.

No, I just don't care.  I don't care about Wojo's mythical unicorn big fish 5-start that just hasn't made it to campus yet.  I've seen this musical many times before and the ending is always the same.

[muguru]

Why do you think that is something that MU can easily do?

Buzz was making what?? 3 million or there a bouts?? I have talked to a few people that would know that have said coming up with $4-5 million for a Coach would be "not a problem".

[🏀]

No, I just don't care.  I don't care about Wojo's mythical unicorn big fish 5-start that just hasn't made it to campus yet.  I've seen this musical many times before and the ending is always the same.

Then it's just ignorance. Worse.

[5DollarPitcher]

Then it's just ignorance. Worse.

Facts = ignorance now? Interesting take but go for it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Buzz was making what?? 3 million or there a bouts?? I have talked to a few people that would know that have said coming up with $4-5 million for a Coach would be "not a problem".

I don't remember what buzz was making but let's say it was 3 million. That was after 5 years of success. He started a lot lower than that.

You want to pay a coach that hasn't done anything for MU 1 to 2 million more a year then the most successful MU coach in the past 40 years made at his peak?

And this is based on your friends telling you it would be no problem? When MU is currently slashing academic budgets and higher education as a whole is preparing for massive drops in enrollment due to changing demographics?

This excites me because the only way your friends would be right is if they are planning to personally pay for the new coach's salary out of their own pocket every year. Tell your friends thank you fur their generosity.

[mu03eng]

I don't remember what buzz was making but let's say it was 3 million. That was after 5 years of success. He started a lot lower than that.

You want to pay a coach that hasn't done anything for MU 1 to 2 million more a year then the most successful MU coach in the past 40 years made at his peak?

And this is based on your friends telling you it would be no problem? When MU is currently slashing academic budgets and higher education as a whole is preparing for massive drops in enrollment due to changing demographics?

This excites me because the only way your friends would be right is if they are planning to personally pay for the new coach's salary out of their own pocket every year. Tell your friends thank you fur their generosity.

You can explain it to him but you can't understand it for him.....that's the gap

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Tell your friends thank you fur (breakfast) their generosity.

[muguru]

You can explain it to him but you can't understand it for him.....that's the gap

Hmmm, okay so you're calling me a liar..I'm telling you they CAN pay $4-5 million a year for a Coach. Of course this wouldn't be for a guy like Wojo, this would be for a guy that has proven experience at the high major level.

[asdfasdf]

Hmmm, okay so you're calling me a liar..I'm telling you they CAN pay $4-5 million a year for a Coach. Of course this wouldn't be for a guy like Wojo, this would be for a guy that has proven experience at the high major level.

How would you define proven experience?

[🏀]

Facts = ignorance now? Interesting take but go for it.

What facts do you have that detail letting Wojo's contract run out would have been a net positive for Marquette?

[bilsu]

I have no faith that MU could hire a coach with division one success.