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Author Topic: Campus Accident  (Read 1471 times)

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Campus Accident
« on: February 12, 2020, 09:07:23 AM »

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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 09:15:23 AM »
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 09:23:23 AM »
Terrible, terrible news. Condolences to Joe's family.

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 09:50:57 AM »
This is horrible news.  I never had Prof. Daniels in class, but there was one semester where our schedules had us walking into Straz at the same time just about every day.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 09:52:04 AM »
Had him as a professor my senior year, he was a really good and incredibly intelligent guy. Terrible news.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2020, 09:52:27 AM »
Horrible news. Prayers to his family.

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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2020, 10:14:02 AM »
Sad news. Sounded like by the story the driver had a green light, yet might have been drinking.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2020, 11:13:38 AM »
Sad news. Sounded like by the story the driver had a green light, yet might have been drinking.

The Milwaukee Police Department said Daniels was crossing the street at 10th St. and Wisconsin Ave. when a woman drove through a green light at a high speed and struck him, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The driver was arrested for suspicion of operating while intoxicated, according to the Journal Sentinel.

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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2020, 11:14:17 AM »
Poop.    Prayers up.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2020, 11:15:20 AM »
This is a gut punch.  Wonderful man.  Cancer survivor.  Kind, intelligent, fun man.  Life is precious.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2020, 11:27:12 AM »
The Milwaukee Police Department said Daniels was crossing the street at 10th St. and Wisconsin Ave. when a woman drove through a green light at a high speed and struck him, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The driver was arrested for suspicion of operating while intoxicated, according to the Journal Sentinel.

So, the driver had the green light is how I read that. Driver too fast and lost control I would guess. Sad, to hear.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2020, 12:06:33 PM »
His son was in my class at MU and MUHS and went to St. Mary’s Elm Grove with some of my close friends. Terrible.

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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2020, 12:09:50 PM »
Joe was one of my favorite people at Marquette.  He was such a nice guy, great professor, awesome mentor, and was there for me during a rough time.  This is a great tragedy for Marquette, and all of us, for losing such a wonderful person. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2020, 12:19:21 PM »
Got to know Joe in the last year thanks to my involvement with the business school alumni association. Great dean, even better human. I was so excited for the direction Joe was taking the college of business and this is just devastating for his family as well as the college who will miss his leadership and vision. Man, hold your family close.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2020, 12:39:18 PM »
Man, that really really sucks. I wish I had better words here, that's a heartbreaker.
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2020, 12:43:13 PM »
The only class I ever dropped was his - we had Micro in the Straz lecture hall, an arrangement he was against and never taught again. Retook him the next year in a small class setting. He was the one that inspired my wife to switch from Accounting to Finance. 

An absolute tragedy.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2020, 02:49:50 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2020, 02:56:10 PM »
So sad to hear of this loss to our Marquette family.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2020, 03:03:24 PM »
Tragic.  Prayers to his family and to the driver who is likely going through her own hell right now.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2020, 02:19:55 PM »
This is a gut punch.  Wonderful man.  Cancer survivor.  Kind, intelligent, fun man.  Life is precious.

I can’t say it any better than this.

I took a couple classes with him while he was battling cancer; he was still able to easily relay and build excitement for learning some really difficult concepts. Probably the best professor I had at Marquette. This is a huge loss for MU. 

Should probably retitle the thread so more understand that the accident took Dr Daniels’ life.

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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2020, 07:41:10 PM »
Tragic.  Prayers to his family and to the driver who is likely going through her own hell right now.

maybe this will be an unpopular opinion but I don't care about her. She drove under the influence and recklessly.  She caused a good man to lose his life and a family to lose their husband, father, uncle, etc.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2020, 07:47:06 PM »
maybe this will be an unpopular opinion but I don't care about her. She drove under the influence and recklessly.  She caused a good man to lose his life and a family to lose their husband, father, uncle, etc.

I'm with ya. I have very little sympathy for people who get drunk/high and decide to drive.

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2020, 08:53:12 PM »
I think it is appropriate to feel sympathy for all people involved regardless of their fault.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2020, 08:56:07 PM »
Everyone has made a terrible mistake in their life.  Some of those mistakes just have had their number called.  I call an Uber 99% of the time but there by the grace of God go I. 

Like Chicos I will also pray for this girl who I would assume is going through hell. 
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2020, 08:57:59 PM »
She’ll get the punishment she deserves through the justice system and having to live with the decision she made.

Not having any idea what her story is, I’m in no place to judge her. No matter what the situation was it was a devestatingly horrible decision and she will pay. But nobody knows what she had going on in her life. We all have our battles. Maybe the decision was related to one of hers, maybe it didn’t.

If I put myself in that situation I can’t say for certain I would’ve had the courage to stay at the scene. She effectively ended two lives with a terrible decision. It’s okay to hope she pays for her decision while still having some empathy and/or sympathy for her. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2020, 10:26:23 PM »
maybe this will be an unpopular opinion but I don't care about her. She drove under the influence and recklessly.  She caused a good man to lose his life and a family to lose their husband, father, uncle, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I am furious it happened and life was snuffed out.  She has to be going through hell.  I would be a hypocrite if I were to say I have never driven under the influence.  I don't know what level I was at, certainly not crapfaced, but I have definitely driven buzzed in my life as I'm sure many people have.  She should pay a steep price for what she has done to this man's family, but I will pray for her because I imagine she is terribly burdened.

Now, if this was a multiple incidents for her....then my sympathy goes away.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2020, 08:14:27 AM »
Let's not argue about this people. Two families have been forever changed. I had a work colleague that was in the same position about 20 years ago. He and the victim's mom wept together and embraced at his uncontested trial.

I'm also going to strongly recommend a book entitled 'Half a Life' by Darren Strauss. It was required reading for the incoming Frosh class in 2012. Marquette awarded him his honorary doctorate that Fall at Convocation.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2020, 09:01:50 AM »
Everyone has made a terrible mistake in their life.  Some of those mistakes just have had their number called.  I call an Uber 99% of the time but there by the grace of God go I. 

Like Chicos I will also pray for this girl who I would assume is going through hell. 

The two big details we have about the incident is that the driver failed sobriety tests, but the car had the green light.   

It's unfortunate to write anything negative here, but unless I'm reading the reports wrong, Dr. Daniels was jaywalking.   A sober driver might have had the same result.  So yes, I can see having sympathy for the driver.


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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2020, 09:15:13 AM »
The two big details we have about the incident is that the driver failed sobriety tests, but the car had the green light.   

It's unfortunate to write anything negative here, but unless I'm reading the reports wrong, Dr. Daniels was jaywalking.   A sober driver might have had the same result.  So yes, I can see having sympathy for the driver.

Yes, he was jaywalking. The driver was under the influence and driving well above the posted speed limit.

Yes the accident could have been avoided with a sober driver with all else being equal but even if sober the driver would still have been going to fast.

Generally speaking, I think it's wise/reasonable to be empathetic to all involved while reserving sympathy for those that deserve it.
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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2020, 09:24:37 AM »
The two big details we have about the incident is that the driver failed sobriety tests, but the car had the green light.   

It's unfortunate to write anything negative here, but unless I'm reading the reports wrong, Dr. Daniels was jaywalking.   A sober driver might have had the same result.  So yes, I can see having sympathy for the driver.

This is good.

Jaywalkers have been killed under circumstances in which the driver reacted in all the appropriate ways. Can't pin the entirety of this incident on the driver.

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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2020, 09:46:38 AM »
How did they determine the driver's speed? this info was out with the 1st incident reports but I'm guessing from witness speculation? If her OBDII recorded this data during the crash would they have been able to read that so soon?

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Re: Campus Accident
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2020, 09:51:59 AM »
I think we're all dancing around the idea.  It might have been us. 

Since there are very few details of the actual incident, the summary *could* be "Texting pedestrian crosses on red, steps in front of car going 1 mph over the limit, killed."

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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2020, 10:01:05 AM »
I think we're all dancing around the idea.  It might have been us. 

Since there are very few details of the actual incident, the summary *could* be "Texting pedestrian crosses on red, steps in front of car going 1 mph over the limit, killed."

Wow... putting it right out there, eh?  It's good thing you're a mod.  That said, I am in no manner diminishing the validity of the message. 



Alcohol may not have materially contributed to the tragedy, but unfortunately, it certainly makes for a good story.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2020, 10:17:59 AM »
Wow... putting it right out there, eh?  It's good thing you're a mod.  That said, I am in no manner diminishing the validity of the message. 

Alcohol may not have materially contributed to the tragedy, but unfortunately, it certainly makes for a good story.

Yeah, I struggled with that post.  If this was on reddit, it would be downvoted to oblivion.

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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2020, 10:21:40 AM »
I am also in no position to judge. Now in my mid-30s, I am extremely careful when it comes to this sort of thing. But we all made regrettable decisions in our early 20s. Like another poster said, there but for the grace of God go I.

Given this person was 20 years old, she may even be a part of the Marquette community. I'm sure this is the hardest week of her young life. Prayers for all involved.

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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2020, 11:58:31 AM »
maybe this will be an unpopular opinion but I don't care about her. She drove under the influence and recklessly.  She caused a good man to lose his life and a family to lose their husband, father, uncle, etc.

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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2020, 03:09:02 PM »
Just received in my email inbox from MU: A nice celebration of Joe Daniels' life.

https://stories.marquette.edu/celebrating-the-life-of-dr-joe-daniels-d5fa68d03b83
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