No foul up 3, again!

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Really? You've seen that described scenario a number of times?
That's crazy that you've seen it a number of times because it is extremely rare.
Not even OT....from down 3 and win it outright?
Wild.
Only time I can recall is Mason hitting the corner 3 and the foul.

Yep
Thx

[WhoaJoe2020]

That's some mighty fine insight, sir (or ma'am). Please keep sharing it with us.

Are you Goose's parrot now??

That's kinda funny actually.

A goose having a pet parrot.

Polly want a cracker??

[Windyplayer]

Have seen a number of times.... make first , miss the second , offensive team gets rebound and in the scramble/chaos makes the layup and gets foul. Makes ft... ball game!

Out of curiosity, what games specifically?

[MU82]

Are you Goose's parrot now??

That's kinda funny actually.

A goose having a pet parrot.

Polly want a cracker??

Well done, Parody Troll.

[fjm]

Holy F'N SHIZ!

Could you imagine if WOJO fouled up 3?

Could end up in the same situation as DUKE and UNC tonight.

[tower912]

I thought fouling up 3 was a panacea.   Now I have to accept that there are multiple variables involved and I just can't handle that.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Fouling by UNC was still the correct move.

[fjm]

WOJO DIDNT FOUL UP 3!! FIRE HIM.
Shiz happens both ways people. But you will all ignore this cause it doesn't fit the narrative. Providence 25% shooter hits a 3.

[fjm]

It was the right move by UNC. But it's doesn't always end the way we think.

[Cheeks]

It was the right move by UNC. But it's doesn't always end the way we think.

Correct

[Uncle Rico]

https://kenpom.com/blog/yet-another-study-about-fouling-when-up-3/

I'm good with coaches doing either.  Weird stuff happens either way.  Marquette's 3-point defense has been pretty good this year.  Some of that is luck driven

[MU82]

Just in the past week, we have seen several good coaches not foul up 3 and their teams won the games. Now comes the UNC-Duke game, when the coach fouled up 3 and it backfired. And yet some Scoopers are 100% certain that the one and only "right" strategy is to foul up 3.

Chambers didn't foul up 3. Pearl didn't foul up 3. Majerus never fouled up 3. Calipari does it sometimes and doesn't do it sometimes.

Morons 1, 2, 3 and 4, I guess.

[We R Final Four]

What those numbers tell me is the most important thing is not to foul or not, but to get the point in the game up 3 with 10 seconds left. That is more important that to foul or not.

[Billy Hoyle]

I thought fouling up 3 was a panacea.   Now I have to accept that there are multiple variables involved and I just can't handle that.

As I posted earlier in the thread, there are so many things that have to go right for it to backfire.  In the Duke/UNC situation, a well placed FT miss, a perfect bounce, a missed double dribble, and a lucky shot.

[We R Final Four]

Coach K is a MORON!!!

If fouling up 3 is not done by the great Pat Chambers, why in the world would he do it??!?!!

Doesn't Coach K know that Majerus never did it??!!!?!

What an idiot!!!!

[MU82]

Coach K is a MORON!!!

If fouling up 3 is not done by the great Pat Chambers, why in the world would he do it??!?!!

Doesn't Coach K know that Majerus never did it??!!!?!

What an idiot!!!!

Coach K did it. Chambers, Pearl and Calipari are morons. Don't they know that fouling up 3 is the ONLY acceptable strategy?

[We R Final Four]

You are the only one on here calling the HOF Coach Chambers a moron.

[MU82]

You are the only one on here calling the HOF Coach Chambers a moron.

The "moron" and "idiot" stuff is just me having some fun as I counter the argument that fouling up 3 is the one and only acceptable strategy. And I think you are smart enough to know that.

I really don't think coaches who ascend to the P6 level are morons or idiots, no matter which strategy they choose.

Just as Roy Williams employed a reasonable strategy - foul up 3 - only to have it backfire, I believe Wojo employed a reasonable strategy against Providence - don't foul up 3 - only to have it backfire.

Sadly, there really are some Scoopers who think Wojo screwed up royally because a 25% shooter who hadn't scored all night threw one in with Bailey's hand in his face.

[94Warrior]

Not fouling, up 3 increases your chance of going to OT.
As with most things, there are exceptions. 

I'm glad our coach is now on board with this sound strategy.

On the whole, Wojo's doing a great job.

[We R Final Four]

As a coach, when your team is up 3 points with 10 seconds remaining, you are trying to win the game...not get to overtime.
I understand that It's safer to defend and AT WORST go to OT. That can suck the life out of a team to lose in OT when game was in hand.
I'm glad Wojo is employing his foul strategy, even if that means a loss once in a blue moon.

Again, the best strategy is to be up by 3 points with 10 seconds left in the game. Teams in that position win in regulation almost 90%, regardless of fouling or not.

[MuMark]

Fouling up 3 with 12 seconds left almost cost  Maryland tonight.

Guy for Nebraska hits 2 free throws.....Maryland inbounds....immediate foul....Cowens misses front end ......Nebraska with plenty of time down 1 to win the game.....guy gets to the hoop and gets blocked at the rim by Jalen Smith.

So they survive......but fouling too early can be every bit as costly as not fouling at all.

Both announcers called it out right away as a mistake.....they got lucky.

[PGsHeroes32]

Not fouling, up 3 increases your chance of going to OT.
As with most things, there are exceptions. 

I'm glad our coach is now on board with this sound strategy.

On the whole, Wojo's doing a great job.

Hes always been on board with it.

Providence was not a botched opportunity. They started the possession with like 20 something seconds left. And the dude launched the prayer with like 12 seconds left.

It happened to go in.

[MuMark]

Hes always been on board with it.

Providence was not a botched opportunity. They started the possession with like 20 something seconds left. And the dude launched the prayer with like 12 seconds left.

It happened to go in.

Yep.......

[94Warrior]

Must have been the slowest shot in history.  It went through the net and the clock stopped at :04.

0:18      Brendan Bailey made Free Throw.   64 - 66   
0:18      Brendan Bailey made Free Throw.   64 - 67   
0:04      A.J. Reeves made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by David Duke.   67 - 67   
0:04      Marquette Timeout   67 - 67   
0:00      End of 2nd half   67 - 67   

Anyway, Wojo may have always been on board with the strategy, but judging by our execution in the PC and X games, we were not too committed to it.

It appears that has now been addressed.  Better late, than never.

[PGsHeroes32]

Must have been the slowest shot in history.  It went through the net and the clock stopped at :04.

0:18      Brendan Bailey made Free Throw.   64 - 66   
0:18      Brendan Bailey made Free Throw.   64 - 67   
0:04      A.J. Reeves made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by David Duke.   67 - 67   
0:04      Marquette Timeout   67 - 67   
0:00      End of 2nd half   67 - 67   

Anyway, Wojo may have always been on board with the strategy, but judging by our execution in the PC and X games, we were not too committed to it.

It appears that has now been addressed.  Better late, than never.

Yeah it was probably like 8 seconds. You never, ever should foul a dude catching and shooting with 8 seconds left especially when hes shooting 25%. And if you foul anyone before that......well thats simply bad strategy.

X it was called for, Symir just blew it. Wojo wanted it. Hes always wanted it, when the time calls for it. Providence didnt.