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What's in store for Markus on June 25th, 2020?

Lottery Pick. Can't deny him after he carried MU to a NC behind 35ppg in the tourney.
0 (0%)
1st Round. That deep NCAA run was sweeeet.
11 (6.9%)
Guaranteed Money (2nd Round). Worth a shot on the leading scorer All-American.
66 (41.3%)
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68 (42.5%)
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2020, 10:20:50 AM »
IMHO the team that is thinking seriously about drafting Markus will not be planning to use him in situations in which he would be closely guarded by long-armed defenders. Markus has to have the ball in his hands for us -- a lot. At the next level, I think he would primarily be used as a spot-up shooter -- the guy who stands outside the arc, with his hands in a ready-to-catch position, spreading the court for his team. If his defender leaves him to help on a driver, Markus could simply catch and shoot before the defender recovers to challenge him. I think that would be the plan, anyway.


I actually think he will be a back up point guard. 
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2020, 10:48:52 AM »
markus work ethic, character and shooting skills are all winners.  he works on his defense, he may be able to do very well $$ for himself-hey, $3-6 mil for a few years??
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2020, 10:58:59 AM »
The other thing is this.   What type of defender gives Markus the most trouble?    Long armed defenders who are as quick as he is.    What is nearly every single guard in the NBA?    A long armed defender who is as quick as he is.    I hope I am wrong.     He is an amazing player and an amazing representative of our university.   I just keep doing a mental check of sub 6' players in the NBA and compare them to Markus.      I hope his truly elite shooting skills are enough.

You could very well be right. Thinking of guys that are around MH's height - IT, Paddy Mills, Jose Berea - they were all super quick guys who were PGs. Markus is not as quick as any of those guys and he tends to lose the ball a lot when driving the lane. Markus' one elite level skill - shooting - is better than any of those guys, so who knows?
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2020, 11:01:48 AM »
If you're a real fan and a real competitor, you EXPECT him to be the number 1 pick. You never expect someone else to be drafted higher or you're just accepting mediocrity 
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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2020, 11:05:04 AM »
IMHO the team that is thinking seriously about drafting Markus will not be planning to use him in situations in which he would be closely guarded by long-armed defenders. Markus has to have the ball in his hands for us -- a lot. At the next level, I think he would primarily be used as a spot-up shooter -- the guy who stands outside the arc, with his hands in a ready-to-catch position, spreading the court for his team. If his defender leaves him to help on a driver, Markus could simply catch and shoot before the defender recovers to challenge him. I think that would be the plan, anyway.

Put him on the Bucks and let Giannis draw a crowd and dish to him.

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« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2020, 11:06:24 AM »
Usually when you post a poll, you don't include the scenarios that lead to each of the answers.

In short, you're not asking us to vote on where Markus is drafted, you're asking us whether we believe MU is going to win a Natty, deep tourney run, late season collapse, etc.

Why start a new thread?  Why not just dust off and update the pre-season predictions?
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« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2020, 11:22:39 AM »
If you're a real fan and a real competitor, you EXPECT him to be the number 1 pick. You never expect someone else to be drafted higher or you're just accepting mediocrity 

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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2020, 11:26:27 AM »
The obvious comp is Carsen Edwards (33rd overall last year)

Depending on post-season performance, I think he'll go +/- 10 picks of that

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« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2020, 11:28:00 AM »

I actually think he will be a back up point guard.

Maybe, though in the NBA a lot of teams (maybe even most) don't have the same kind of position designations many of us are accustomed to. Who plays PG for the Lakers and Bucks?

Markus' PG skills have improved but he is not a highly skilled PG, at least not yet. Maybe he can keep developing those skills and be decent enough at the NBA level to use them there. We know he is a hard worker and is highly intelligent.

The one thing Markus does better than most humans who walk this planet is shoot, and that is what I believe NBA GMs, scouts and coaches will value the most.

If you're a real fan and a real competitor, you EXPECT him to be the number 1 pick. You never expect someone else to be drafted higher or you're just accepting mediocrity

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« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2020, 11:29:53 AM »
Maybe, though in the NBA a lot of teams (maybe even most) don't have the same kind of position designations many of us are accustomed to. Who plays PG for the Lakers and Bucks?


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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2020, 11:32:21 AM »
Here's the other issue. Does anyone really think Markus is actually 5'11? I certainly don't.

Jae Crowder shrunk two inches from the time he left Marquette to the time he arrived at the NBA combine.

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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2020, 11:34:20 AM »
Here's the other issue. Does anyone really think Markus is actually 5'11? I certainly don't.

Jae Crowder shrunk two inches from the time he left Marquette to the time he arrived at the NBA combine.

So did Hayward. Yet Jimmy Butler gained one. Idk what the difference is in measuring is but it's weird
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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2020, 11:37:18 AM »


Cracked me up ... though teal was completely unnecessary.

I thought so too, but I figured I'd err on the side of caution
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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2020, 11:57:11 AM »
So did Hayward. Yet Jimmy Butler gained one. Idk what the difference is in measuring is but it's weird

The difference is Jimmy is a psycho (and I mean that in the best way possible, I love him) and looks for any conceivable perception that he is being slighted for motivation. That's my working hypothesis.

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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2020, 12:00:54 PM »


Undrafted and making his living by scamming guys in pickup basketball a la "White Men Can't Jump".

That's what happens when you never pass the ball.
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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2020, 12:03:18 PM »
Here's the other issue. Does anyone really think Markus is actually 5'11? I certainly don't.

Jae Crowder shrunk two inches from the time he left Marquette to the time he arrived at the NBA combine.

I'm guessing 5-9 1/2 to 5-10.

But if Draymond can play center at 6'5", I guess Markus can play guard at 5'10"

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« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2020, 12:13:05 PM »
The obvious comp is Carsen Edwards (33rd overall last year)

Depending on post-season performance, I think he'll go +/- 10 picks of that

Good call.

Another thing to add:  I suspect GM's there is a very small component of a GM's decision-making process to be able to defend their draft choices - as far as rationale for selection.  Would be hard to fault a GM for taking Markus late first/second round. 
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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2020, 12:13:23 PM »
The obvious comp is Carsen Edwards (33rd overall last year)

Here's the other issue. Does anyone really think Markus is actually 5'11? I certainly don't.

And, since we're comparing them, it's worth noting that Edwards shrunk two inches between Purdue and the Celtics.
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« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2020, 12:18:03 PM »
Late 2nd rounder.  I think he'll play spot minutes in the NBA for a while. 
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« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2020, 12:30:08 PM »
Is Jimmer Fredette a less obvious comp?

I feel like Markus will follow a similar path, professionally, to Jimmer.

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« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2020, 12:39:01 PM »
If you're a real fan and a real competitor, you EXPECT him to be the number 1 pick. You never expect someone else to be drafted higher or you're just accepting mediocrity 
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« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2020, 12:41:58 PM »
So did Hayward. Yet Jimmy Butler gained one. Idk what the difference is in measuring is but it's weird

I don't remember Jimmy being listed as 6'5" at Marquette.

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« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2020, 01:23:21 PM »
I don't remember Jimmy being listed as 6'5" at Marquette.

Gomarquette has 6'7 and I saw 6'8 when you google his name.
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« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2020, 01:25:06 PM »
If he was 6'3, he would be the next Curry and already in the league.
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« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2020, 02:53:18 PM »
Gomarquette has 6'7 and I saw 6'8 when you google his name.

I always thought he was listed at 6'7" at MU.

He measured 6' 6 1/4" at the NBA Combine.

 

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