Ncaa Net Rankings debut today

[Cheeks]

For those that care, they are released today. 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2019-12-11/what-we-might-see-first-net-rankings-2019-20-season

[wadesworld]

Too early to be as valuable as they are later in the season.

[Cheeks]

Too early to be as valuable as they are later in the season.

The question was whether it would be you, Lenny or someone else.  I had my money on you.

From the article I linked from the NCAA... "A larger sample size generally leads to more accurate analysis, so the extra two-plus weeks of data will presumably lead to less-apparent variance in the first edition of the NET rankings."


So yes, less valuable today then they will be in a few weeks.

[wadesworld]

The question was whether it would be you, Lenny or someone else.  I had my money on you.

From the article I linked from the NCAA... "A larger sample size generally leads to more accurate analysis, so the extra two-plus weeks of data will presumably lead to less-apparent variance in the first edition of the NET rankings."


So yes, less valuable today then they will be in a few weeks.

You nailed it.  I'll get you some free Wifi, Six Flags tickets for you, the wife, and kids, and Miller High Life the next time you're in Milwaukee.

[brewcity77]

Marquette checks in at 53. Two behind 5-5 Wisconsin.

[cheebs09]

Looks like we are number 53. 0-2 in Q1 games and 3-0 in Q2 games.

https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Nitty%20Gritty%20-%20Dec.%2015,%202019.pdf

[Pakuni]

Duquesne, whose best win is over KenPom #118 Indiana State, checks in at #20. Next best win over #144 Radford.
NET is very dumb.

[MU82]

When Duquesne is in the Final Four, we'll laugh as we look back and fondly recall how valuable this NET ranking was.

[Pakuni]

Stanford, whose best win is over KenPom #50 Oklahoma, ranked 9th.
Again, the NET is very dumb.

[UWW2MU]

The NET was pretty wild with the rankings in December last year as well.  I thought it worked out fairly decent by the end, other than seemingly (to my eyes) favoring slower tempo teams.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Duquesne, whose best win is over KenPom #118 Indiana State, checks in at #20. Next best win over #144 Radford.
NET is very dumb.

I assume Magic Dawson has returned to #19 Liberty.

[UWW2MU]

So we're 53 in NET.  That makes us a Q2a home game for our opponents.   Yet, WI team sheet has us listed as a Q3 win.   

Or am I missing something here?

[Tha Hound]

What the hell is this garbage

[LloydsLegs]

Big east with 9 teams in top 71.

Providence at 146.  Oooof. 

[cheebs09]

I believe Buzz's Texas A&M Team is the lowest major conference team at 281.

[MuMark]

NET isn't dumb....it's just dumb at the beginning of the year.....by the end of the season it will be a useful tool.....much better then the RPI was.......

[shoothoops]

NM

[Coleman]

Wish they would wait until mid-January for the initial NET rankings, rather than mid-December.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I believe Buzz's Texas A&M Team is the lowest major conference team at 281.

LOL nice

[Cheeks]

Duquesne, whose best win is over KenPom #118 Indiana State, checks in at #20. Next best win over #144 Radford.
NET is very dumb.

It's early and that is why it isn't that valuable at the moment.  It will normalize with more data as more games are played.

In effect it is very dumb (less valuable) this time of year, but beware saying that as it irks some here.

[SaveOD238]

Marquette checks in at 53. Two behind 5-5 Wisconsin.

This I do not understand.  Sure, Bucky beat us head-to-head, but their stats otherwise suck.

Wisconsin: 5-5, Q1 0-3, Q2 2-2, Q3 0-0, Q4 3-0
Marquette: 7-2, Q1 0-2, Q2 3-0, Q3 1-0, Q4 3-0

The only advantage Wisco has is in the average opponent rank.  Theirs is 12th best, but ours is "only" 36th best.

[GB Warrior]

Net Rankings before conference schedules are in full swing no matta. Intriguing data point and we get to all guffaw over being behind UW and DePaul. But at this point, it is as useful as which way the wind is blowing.

[Cheeks]

I believe Buzz's Texas A&M Team is the lowest major conference team at 281.

Correct, if we are talking P6 teams.

I believe they are the only P6 school even in the 200's and they are almost at 300.

The next worse school I think is Northwestern at 174.  I may have missed one, however.

[Jay Bee]

Correct, if we are talking P6 teams.

I believe they are the only P6 school even in the 200's and they are almost at 300.

The next worse school I think is Northwestern at 174.  I may have missed one, however.

Cal, @ina?

[Cheeks]

Cal, @ina?

Good call Jay Bee, I want out of this state so badly I didn't even see it on the list.  Cal slightly worse than Northwestern at 182.