who else can score?

[goldeneagle91114]

Congrats to Howard! Well deserved! However the point remains. This team will need a consistent second and third scoring option if this they're going to make any noise. It's only the first game, so it will be interesting to see how the first month of the season unfolds.

[Class71]

Up 44-15 at half. Markus Howard just tied the all time MU scoring record. And this is the thread we get.

God Bless MUScoop.

This is a very meaningful game for Markus and it is historic effort. It is not meaningful, however, for the MU team. It is great to have a national level shooter in Markus but I think some of us want a team effort which is necessary to beat top tier teams. If we beat Purdue there will be plenty of cheering from all, even if Markus scores 60 or 0. Our focus on team wins is first while individual accomplishments are a distant second. Experience shows teams win, not individuals.

[jonny09]

This is a very meaningful game for Markus and it is historic effort. It is not meaningful, however, for the MU team. It is great to have a national level shooter in Markus but I think some of us want a team effort which is necessary to beat top tier teams. If we beat Purdue there will be plenty of cheering from all, even if Markus scores 60 or 0. Our focus on team wins is first while individual accomplishments are a distant second. Experience shows teams win, not individuals.

Bingo!!   Well said. 

[wadesworld]

This is a very meaningful game for Markus and it is historic effort. It is not meaningful, however, for the MU team. It is great to have a national level shooter in Markus but I think some of us want a team effort which is necessary to beat top tier teams. If we beat Purdue there will be plenty of cheering from all, even if Markus scores 60 or 0. Our focus on team wins is first while individual accomplishments are a distant second. Experience shows teams win, not individuals.

Thankfully Markus is part of this team.

If Markus is cooking there's no better recipe for a win for Marquette than to have Markus shoot early and often.

[injuryBug]

This is a very meaningful game for Markus and it is historic effort. It is not meaningful, however, for the MU team. It is great to have a national level shooter in Markus but I think some of us want a team effort which is necessary to beat top tier teams. If we beat Purdue there will be plenty of cheering from all, even if Markus scores 60 or 0. Our focus on team wins is first while individual accomplishments are a distant second. Experience shows teams win, not individuals.

Exactly i will be the first to be all excited when markus goes for 50 in a win, but my entire point is he will not score 50 every game and in order to have a good year for the team we need others to step up

[wadesworld]

"The others" scored 52 points tonight. Markus averaged 25 last season. Even if he just holds steady there 77 points will win us most games.

The only wart from tonight was turnovers.

[Class71]

Thankfully Markus is part of this team.

If Markus is cooking there's no better recipe for a win for Marquette than to have Markus shoot early and often.

We will need more than Markus to beat top tier teams. It takes more than a one man show. Purdue will be the first test. Pistol Pete could not carry LSU against the top tier field of the day. Dean Meminger individually crushed the all time gun. I want more for/from our team and I expect the coach to work for that objective.

[Cheeks]

LOL.  In an effort to argue, Chicos quotes himself and attributes it to the other guy in order to prolong the argument.

??  Still waiting for investor link by the way

[Jay Bee]

We will need more than Markus to beat top tier teams. It takes more than a one man show. Purdue will be the first test. Pistol Pete could not carry LSU against the top tier field of the day. Dean Meminger individually crushed the all time gun. I want more for/from our team and I expect the coach to work for that objective.

Dude, he might average in the mid-20s.. not the 40's.

[MU82]

It's OK to think Markus is a great player and we're lucky to have him, and also to hope that others will be able to score when the better opponents inevitably make it difficult for Markus to score.

I was encouraged to see McEwen and Elliott make some 3s in the second half.

It was a little concerning how often one of our guards tried to break down his man and get into the lane only to lose the basketball. As wades said, too many TOs overall. Also out of position defensively and a step slow the first part of the second half. But it's the first game. A lot of butterflies, no doubt, for the likes of McEwen and Torrence. And even Elliott.

Wojo has a lot of good film to show -- big win with a lot of good stuff but also plenty to improve upon. Can't wait to see us take down Purdue.

We are Marquette!

[Class71]

Dude, he might average in the mid-20s.. not the 40's.

Exactly my point.

[TallTitan34]

A lot of the usual trolls in this thread.

Rarely seen after a 35 point win.

[Pakuni]

Scoop gonna Scooop.

[MuMark]

You'd think people might be pleased that we shot 60% from 3..... I mean Markus made 7 for 10 but the rest of the squad made 7 out of 13......from the new deeper distance too.......

It was the first game......it wasn't always pretty but we did win by over 30 with Markus taking pretty much the last 10 minutes off......rough spots for sure but to be expected.

Theo was pretty impressive.......big negatives were the turnovers from Sacar, Markus and Koby.......and the fouls in the 2nd half.....good to see Greg knock down some 3s and get sole good run after a long layoff.

[Herman Cain]

I was delighted to see Markus dominate and have such an effective game. 

[RubyWiscy]

Okay, I'm kinda amazed no one here picked up on the game plan. First half was all about Marcus getting the record. Every time down his teammates were looking to get him the ball and when he touched it, he shot it.

Once he hit 33 at the start of the 2nd half I told my friend he would only score about 6 more points in the game. Sure enough, he finished with 38.

[Its DJOver]

Okay, I'm kinda amazed no one here picked up on the game plan. First half was all about Marcus getting the record. Every time down his teammates were looking to get him the ball and when he touched it, he shot it.

Once he hit 33 at the start of the 2nd half I told my friend he would only score about 6 more points in the game. Sure enough, he finished with 38.

Yea I'm about 99% sure that this is exactly what happened.  By my unofficial count he took three shots in the 10ish minutes after he broke the record.  One was a missed layup where he was fouled (so technically doesn't count as a shot), one was a three point play, and and one was a missed mid range.  He also had (by my unofficial count) 2 boards, one steal and two dimes, and at least one should have been assist if it hadn't been fumbled out of bounds.  Get all of the "record" stuff out of the way as quickly as possible, don't want to have it in the back of your mind during Purdue.  Just my opinion, but I think he will look a lot more like scrimmage and exhibition Markus than 1st half Loyola Markus the rest of the year.

[MU82]

Yea I'm about 99% sure that this is exactly what happened.  By my unofficial count he took three shots in the 10ish minutes after he broke the record.  One was a missed layup where he was fouled (so technically doesn't count as a shot), one was a three point play, and and one was a missed mid range.  He also had (by my unofficial count) 2 boards, one steal and two dimes, and at least one should have been assist if it hadn't been fumbled out of bounds.  Get all of the "record" stuff out of the way as quickly as possible, don't want to have it in the back of your mind during Purdue.  Just my opinion, but I think he will look a lot more like scrimmage and exhibition Markus than 1st half Loyola Markus the rest of the year.

I like this theory, and it makes a lot of sense.

[RubyWiscy]

Listening to his postgame comments also lend at least partially to this theory/observation.

[jsglow]

You'd think people might be pleased that we shot 60% from 3..... I mean Markus made 7 for 10 but the rest of the squad made 7 out of 13......from the new deeper distance too.......

It was the first game......it wasn't always pretty but we did win by over 30 with Markus taking pretty much the last 10 minutes off......rough spots for sure but to be expected.

Theo was pretty impressive.......big negatives were the turnovers from Sacar, Markus and Koby.......and the fouls in the 2nd half.....good to see Greg knock down some 3s and get sole good run after a long layoff.

This.  The shooting was absolutely fine.  The turnovers and some shoddy second half D, not so much.

[brewcity77]

Theo was pretty impressive.......big negatives were the turnovers from Sacar, Markus and Koby.......and the fouls in the 2nd half.....good to see Greg knock down some 3s and get sole good run after a long layoff.

Some credit to the opponent as well, LUM was 7th in the country in steal percentage last year. Their steals accounted for half the turnovers. The Greyhounds certainly didn't perform very well (though they were better in the second half) but turning teams over is a strength of theirs, and probably something good for us to face early.

Also...Golden Dike looked like a man. Much bigger than I expected. He will be very good for them, and if Santi Aldama is the better of the two recruits, they might have something special as the season goes on.

[willie warrior]

yep we will see next week when purdue has athletes that can stay with MH and bump him or force him to give it up.  This should be a great game for him to work on getting others involved and building confidence.  I want to see what happens when teams force him to give it up like they did down the stretch last year

We already know the answer from last year when we crapped the bed down the stretch. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[The Sultan]

Yea I'm about 99% sure that this is exactly what happened.  By my unofficial count he took three shots in the 10ish minutes after he broke the record.  One was a missed layup where he was fouled (so technically doesn't count as a shot), one was a three point play, and and one was a missed mid range.  He also had (by my unofficial count) 2 boards, one steal and two dimes, and at least one should have been assist if it hadn't been fumbled out of bounds.  Get all of the "record" stuff out of the way as quickly as possible, don't want to have it in the back of your mind during Purdue.  Just my opinion, but I think he will look a lot more like scrimmage and exhibition Markus than 1st half Loyola Markus the rest of the year.

I'm not exactly sure what was wrong with first half Markus anyway.  When he's not hitting his shots, I get why you don't want him to bomb away.  But when he's hot, why wouldn't you want him shooting?  They scored 44 points and were up by nearly 30 at half.

[The Sultan]

This is a very meaningful game for Markus and it is historic effort. It is not meaningful, however, for the MU team. It is great to have a national level shooter in Markus but I think some of us want a team effort which is necessary to beat top tier teams. If we beat Purdue there will be plenty of cheering from all, even if Markus scores 60 or 0. Our focus on team wins is first while individual accomplishments are a distant second. Experience shows teams win, not individuals.

I completely agree.  I have no idea what this has to do with last night's game though. 

[1SE]

I'm not exactly sure what was wrong with first half Markus anyway.  When he's not hitting his shots, I get why you don't want him to bomb away.  But when he's hot, why wouldn't you want him shooting?  They scored 44 points and were up by nearly 30 at half.

Yeah, this is a funny discussion. I get it's loyola-MD, but he made a lot of well-contested shots last night. When Markus is in god-mode (and he will be some nights) no one else should touch the ball.  But we already knew that.

The big question mark is what happens when he's "ordinary". Can the other guys step up? Will Markus share it with them? That's why the Hauser's left and what will determine the course of the season. We didn't learn anything more about that last night, but we probably will soon.