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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1600 on: February 05, 2020, 09:58:51 PM »
Fair enough. Based on how well Providence has played lately I wouldn't be remotely surprised to win but won't expect one. Considering how tough the conference is on the road why do you expect one?

I think we're the better team.

Whenever we have a realistic chance to win, I always "expect" it.

Even though I don't expect us to finish 8-0 - that's too big picture and too unlikely - I will go into each individual game expecting us to play well enough to win it.
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« Reply #1601 on: February 05, 2020, 10:19:28 PM »
Even though I don't expect us to finish 8-0 - that's too big picture and too unlikely - I will go into each individual game expecting us to play well enough to win it.

Guru would be proud of you.

I hope to win every game, think MU has a chance to win most, and expect to lose some games.

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« Reply #1602 on: February 05, 2020, 10:25:44 PM »
Guru would be proud of you.

I hope to win every game, think MU has a chance to win most, and expect to lose some games.

That sounds reasonable.

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« Reply #1603 on: February 05, 2020, 11:07:11 PM »
Guru would be proud of you.

I hope to win every game, think MU has a chance to win most, and expect to lose some games.

My buddy guru and I already have discussed this.
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Re: Big East Conference Results
« Reply #1604 on: February 06, 2020, 12:21:31 PM »
Kamar Baldwin... FR to Sr years... eFG%... 55.7%...49.4%..49.1%...45.2%...

Career sub 33% 3FG shooter

Hasn't been able to improve his FTrate over the years...

yuck
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« Reply #1605 on: February 06, 2020, 12:31:37 PM »
Providence doesn’t get enough respect. They’re a decent team who had an abysmal non conference schedule that really screwed the league.

If Providence & DePaul could form a non-con/con voltron they'd be like a 3 seed

MU82

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« Reply #1606 on: February 06, 2020, 12:59:13 PM »
Kamar Baldwin... FR to Sr years... eFG%... 55.7%...49.4%..49.1%...45.2%...

Career sub 33% 3FG shooter

Hasn't been able to improve his FTrate over the years...

yuck

If only we had made him look yucky instead of like the second coming of Jordan, West and Curry all rolled up into one.

Here's hoping Wojo has a plan to keep him from getting wherever he wants whenever he wants on NMD.
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« Reply #1607 on: February 06, 2020, 01:06:45 PM »
Kamar Baldwin... FR to Sr years... eFG%... 55.7%...49.4%..49.1%...45.2%...

Career sub 33% 3FG shooter

Hasn't been able to improve his FTrate over the years...

yuck

That could be the reason Wojo was content with letting Kamar try winning the game from 2pt range.
If he shoots anywhere near his normal percentage, Marquette probably wins that game.

Unfortunately Kamar went God Mode.

It happens.

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« Reply #1608 on: February 06, 2020, 01:07:58 PM »
That could be the reason Wojo was content with letting Kamar try winning the game from 2pt range.
If he shoots anywhere near his normal percentage, Marquette probably wins that game.

Unfortunately Kamar went God Mode.

It happens.
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« Reply #1609 on: February 06, 2020, 01:14:15 PM »
That could be the reason Wojo was content with letting Kamar try winning the game from 2pt range.
If he shoots anywhere near his normal percentage, Marquette probably wins that game.

Unfortunately Kamar went God Mode.

It happens.

Very astute!

However ...

While I can accept this reasoning for the first 2 or 3 times Baldwin scored from roughly the same spot while no attempt at all was made to get the ball out of his hands, I have a more difficult time accepting it for the next 5 or 6 times it happened.

Definition of insanity, and all of that.
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« Reply #1610 on: February 06, 2020, 01:36:54 PM »
Very astute!

However ...

While I can accept this reasoning for the first 2 or 3 times Baldwin scored from roughly the same spot while no attempt at all was made to get the ball out of his hands, I have a more difficult time accepting it for the next 5 or 6 times it happened.

Definition of insanity, and all of that.

Based on the comparative inefficiency of 2pt shots and the odds of Kamar hitting all of those shots, I would say it was a calculated move that in this particular instance failed.

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« Reply #1611 on: February 06, 2020, 01:54:41 PM »
If Providence & DePaul could form a non-con/con voltron they'd be like a 3 seed

I love this imagery.

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« Reply #1612 on: February 06, 2020, 02:00:28 PM »
Based on the comparative inefficiency of 2pt shots and the odds of Kamar hitting all of those shots, I would say it was a calculated move that in this particular instance failed.

Yes, you have made another fantastic point.

It did, indeed, fail.

Eight times.
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« Reply #1613 on: February 06, 2020, 03:12:21 PM »
Very astute!

However ...

While I can accept this reasoning for the first 2 or 3 times Baldwin scored from roughly the same spot while no attempt at all was made to get the ball out of his hands, I have a more difficult time accepting it for the next 5 or 6 times it happened.

Definition of insanity, and all of that.

Agreed, we've seen Wojo switch up defensive looks with success this year, most recently vs. DePaul. I'm sure they've analyzed the film to a gut-wrenching degree and hopefully have learned from it. Next time that's happening, I'd very much like to see a different look thrown at a guy a few times down, even if you ultimately go back to your base D. Just get him out of his rhythm.

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« Reply #1614 on: February 06, 2020, 03:24:26 PM »
Yep. The Butler and Providence losses are extremely frustrating, especially Providence, but all you can do is learn from them at this point. If we can get 2 of the next 3 we are in great shape. Getting one would be disappointing but would still be a quality win added to the ledger.

Also, expecting to win when we play at Providence will be silly.

Butler one is more frustrating for me.

Woulda been a huge road win especially NET wise and we led basically the whole game.

At least the Providence game was more of a “not your night” game that was close throughout and down for most of it
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MU82

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« Reply #1615 on: February 06, 2020, 03:27:06 PM »
Agreed, we've seen Wojo switch up defensive looks with success this year, most recently vs. DePaul. I'm sure they've analyzed the film to a gut-wrenching degree and hopefully have learned from it. Next time that's happening, I'd very much like to see a different look thrown at a guy a few times down, even if you ultimately go back to your base D. Just get him out of his rhythm.

Here's hoping.

Butler one is more frustrating for me.

Woulda been a huge road win especially NET wise and we led basically the whole game.

At least the Providence game was more of a “not your night” game that was close throughout and down for most of it

Agreed.
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« Reply #1616 on: February 06, 2020, 03:32:24 PM »
Yes, you have made another fantastic point.

It did, indeed, fail.

Eight times.

You do realize there are two ends of the court right??

If Marquette had hit one more three in that stretch they would have won the game.

Based on Wojo's offensive philosophy, that was probably part of the calculation.

You think??

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« Reply #1617 on: February 06, 2020, 04:11:24 PM »
Butler one is more frustrating for me.

Woulda been a huge road win especially NET wise and we led basically the whole game.

At least the Providence game was more of a “not your night” game that was close throughout and down for most of it

Can't argue with that.  Butler would have been the better win and would have more than made up for the Providence loss.  For Butler is moreso how we lost than that we lost. 

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« Reply #1618 on: February 06, 2020, 04:11:44 PM »
You do realize there are two ends of the court right??

If Marquette had hit one more three in that stretch they would have won the game.

Based on Wojo's offensive philosophy, that was probably part of the calculation.

You think??

It's the ol' "Let 'em score whenever they want; we'll just hit another 3!" strategy employed by so many championship coaches over the decades. Never fails!

Thanks for educating the rest of us, fine sir (or madam or ?)
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« Reply #1619 on: February 06, 2020, 04:43:25 PM »
It's the ol' "Let 'em score whenever they want; we'll just hit another 3!" strategy employed by so many championship coaches over the decades. Never fails!

Thanks for educating the rest of us, fine sir (or madam or ?)

No, it's the ol' willing to live with your opponent taking contested low efficiency 2pt shots while relying on your teams usually consistent 3pt shooting within the offense to carry the day strategy.

It isn't a novel idea.
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« Reply #1620 on: February 06, 2020, 04:51:41 PM »
Thank you for your insight
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WhoaJoe2020

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« Reply #1621 on: February 06, 2020, 05:05:11 PM »
Thank you for your insight

I don't consider pointing out the obvious to someone who is clueless particularly insightful. It really shouldn't be necessary.


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« Reply #1623 on: February 06, 2020, 06:27:45 PM »
I don't consider pointing out the obvious to someone who is clueless particularly insightful. It really shouldn't be necessary.

Thank you for your kindness to the clueless.

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« Reply #1624 on: February 06, 2020, 06:31:10 PM »
No, it's the ol' willing to live with your opponent taking contested low efficiency 2pt shots while relying on your teams usually consistent 3pt shooting within the offense to carry the day strategy.

It isn't a novel idea.

Thank you for helping the rest of us better understand basketball.

 

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