NCAA to allow NIL?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

College basketball games please.

Wonder if the spirit shop will start selling jerseys with players names on them as well.

[Galway Eagle]

NCAA DI: 350 schools x avg. roster 14 = 4,900

NBA: 30 teams x roster max. 15 = 450

Agreed. they'd need to pay next to nothing given the NCAA overall revenue from BBall compared to the NBA's. Likely a handful of one and dined will be given a big check, a couple guys who were big that year like Howard Powell and Winston this year would be given some good money and most the rest a small check or percent of penny of sales.

[muguru]

NCAA DI: 350 schools x avg. roster 14 = 4,900

NBA: 30 teams x roster max. 15 = 450

Exactly this...and that's only for basketball. Think about the roster sizes in football and having to compensate every one of them.

[Galway Eagle]

Which I doubt helps us in the battle to show recruits that they will get paid more NIL at Marquette...maybe DePaul & SJU will stop sucking as much though

I think you might see some Milwaukee area businesses willing to fork over money toward the players to appeal to the large MU contingent. Compare that to the used car lot and mom and pop dinners in Lawrence. It'll be interesting to see if market size beyond people affiliated with the school makes a difference

[muguru]

Agreed. they'd need to pay next to nothing given the NCAA overall revenue from BBall compared to the NBA's. Likely a handful of one and dined will be given a big check, a couple guys who were big that year like Howard Powell and Winston this year would be given some good money and most the rest a small check or percent of penny of sales.

And what if that isn't good enough for them?? What if they want more?? leave them off the game?? Then how realistic is it?? And football...they have what?? 90 player rosters in college??

[Cheeks]

It hasn't stopped them in the pros so yes yes they will.

They deal with the players association.  It is a simple process.  No need to do a deal with each player, just one entity.

Of course those guys can be greedy bastards at times for things like photo usage, but that's another discussion.   

[wadesworld]

I don't think every NBA and NFL player is getting paid a check from EA.  Also, even if you do have to pay the walk on long snapper at Rutgers a penny a year for their NIL, the opportunity to have the draft class you just played a season with in NCAA Football 2020 be available for your Madden 2021 franchise's NFL Draft will make for a huge opportunity for EA.

I'll be looking into investing in EA shortly.

[Cheeks]

And here where you're going to have issues. The maker of the game is going to have to compensate every single one of those athletes in the game. Will they be willing to do that?? That would seriously hinder there profit margin.

It's easy in the pros, we do it all the time. A similar situation will need to be setup for the college players, essentially a players association.  To keep the greedy mitts off of it and avoid unionizing the student athletes, I'm guessing the NCAA will want to take on this role.

[Cheeks]

I don't see this happening.  My guess is that any benefit from NIL must be completely separate from their participation in athletics, and under no circumstances are schools allowed to license their trademarks for NIL. 

So if Markus wants to be a spokesman for Ernie von Schledorn and hawk some used cars, great.  But "Marquette," "Golden Eagles," "NCAA," "Big East," etc. can't be anywhere near that advertising.

It also means that any businesses paying an athlete for NIL cannot be owned/managed by a booster, under I'm sure what will be a soon-to-be-expanded definition of "booster."

If Val Ackerman and others trying to preserve the college model can do this...great.  She is trying.

If it goes how Rico and Sultan and MU82 want it to go, then absolutely smaller schools are fucked.

[#UnleashSean]

Surprised by how fast they folded.


Glad to see that 2k and ncaa football will hopefully be back.

[Benny B]

College basketball games please.

Wonder if the spirit shop will start selling jerseys with players names on them as well.

No.

The whole point of NIL is to lift a restriction on student-athletes that doesn't exist on all other students, full stop. 

What a lot of people don't get is that the schools won't - and can't - have any involvement with NIL, because it will raise issues of inequity (See: Title IX).  In other words, if a student-athlete wishes to pursue NIL benefit independently, they must do so on their own accord and without aid or assistance from the school.


In short, THE NCAA VIDEO GAMES AREN'T COMING BACK. 

[#UnleashSean]

And here where you're going to have issues. The maker of the game is going to have to compensate every single one of those athletes in the game. Will they be willing to do that?? That would seriously hinder there profit margin.

They already do it in all the other games?

[Galway Eagle]

And what if that isn't good enough for them?? What if they want more?? leave them off the game?? Then how realistic is it?? And football...they have what?? 90 player rosters in college??

You can track usage on these programs and then say "nobody gives a damn is you're there or not. So we'll just pay the school and make an AI generated player so you can either take it or leave it"

Bottom line is these games are primarily gonna be used for a handful of teams and primarily for those that get drafted or make the FF not for the Gramblings of the world and thankfully there's business analysts who track all that data for when people get greedy.

[Pakuni]

I don't think every NBA and NFL player is getting paid a check from EA. 

They are indirectly. The players' likenesses are licensed through their unions.

[Benny B]

Agreed. they'd need to pay next to nothing given the NCAA overall revenue from BBall compared to the NBA's. Likely a handful of one and dined will be given a big check, a couple guys who were big that year like Howard Powell and Winston this year would be given some good money and most the rest a small check or percent of penny of sales.

That's not going to happen unless they direct-license from the individual player.  And if they do, they won't be able to use the school's names, mascots, NCAA trademarks, etc.

Are you going to buy "University Basketball Tournament 2K20" featuring the top 100 players from this year and 4,800 generically-named walk-ons playing for such institutions as Wisconsin State University, Upper Peninsula A&M, South Central Bayou State University, and DePaul College?

[Cheeks]

I think you might see some Milwaukee area businesses willing to fork over money toward the players to appeal to the large MU contingent. Compare that to the used car lot and mom and pop dinners in Lawrence. It'll be interesting to see if market size beyond people affiliated with the school makes a difference

There are more UW alums in Milwaukee than MU has in the entire state of Wisconsin.  Small schools don't fair well in this unless Ackerman and committee can protect those entities.

[Cheeks]

Surprised by how fast they folded.


Glad to see that 2k and ncaa football will hopefully be back.

It's not a matter of folding, it's a matter of trying to control the outcome before the Rico's and Walkers of the world destroy it completely.

[Cheeks]

They are indirectly. The players' likenesses are licensed through their unions.

Correct, which is why I hope the NCAA takes on this role so there is no unionization.

[MU82]

Good first step. Way to go, Cali, for getting the ball rolling on this, as well as the dozens of other states that are planning similar.

I am interested to see where this all goes, how a plan is implemented, etc. Everybody's still throwing warmup pitches at this point -- it's not even the first inning.

I don't know how it will end, and neither does anybody else here. The one thing I would bet on is that it will not "ruin" college sports, just as Title IX and so many other groundbreaking changes did not. Life is all about change.

Dabo? Just another effen hypocrite using athletes to rake in bazillions for himself.

[Johnny B]

You'd think business would be looking pay bager plays way more often than MU guys. Just way more fans and recognition

[Galway Eagle]

That's not going to happen unless they direct-license from the individual player.  And if they do, they won't be able to use the school's names, mascots, NCAA trademarks, etc.

Are you going to buy "University Basketball Tournament 2K20" featuring the top 100 players from this year and 4,800 generically-named walk-ons playing for such institutions as Wisconsin State University, Upper Peninsula A&M, South Central Bayou State University, and DePaul College?

I don't play video games so I probably wouldn't buy it either way

[#UnleashSean]

It's not a matter of folding, it's a matter of trying to control the outcome before the Rico's and Walkers of the world destroy it completely.

Nah they folded because a bit of legislation did what the ncaa should have done years and years ago.

Before you go off on how this will ruin the ncaa tangent that I already know is coming... Just take a breath, relax, and know that without a doubt college basketball will live on and everyone will be just fine. Times are changing old man, change with it.

[brewcity77]

In related news, Barry Alvarez came out with a statement today that Wisconsin will not be playing against any teams involved in the NCAA. That includes the annual red/white scrimmages.

[oldwarrior81]

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/18/dabo-says-he-may-quit-college-football-if-players-get-paid/

Well Dabo?

Dabo could give each of his 85 scholarship players $100,000 a year and still be making around a million a year.

[Galway Eagle]

How's it hypocritical for Dabo? Unless he took payments when he was at Bama then he utilized the experience and connections offered by playing major college sports to land a degree and job then advance in said career. That's not hypocritical at all.