Joey applied for waiver

[TallTitan34]

I look forward to the reasoning behind this waiver.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

He got beat up

[🏀]

He got beat up

I really want to believe this.

[rocket surgeon]

   kinda related except jahvon's been in a few more beds than joey-ncaa rules no waiver to quinerly

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28060745/ncaa-give-alabama-jahvon-quinerly-waiver-play

[forgetful]

I look forward to the reasoning behind this waiver.

There aren't any good reasons that would constitute a mitigating circumstance. My guess, hopes and prayers.

[MuMark]

https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1194389212503646209?s=21

[Cheeks]

Article the other day says he loves MSU, going to football games, bigger campus, etc.

Different strokes for different folks.

[Billy Hoyle]

https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1194389212503646209?s=21

this never happens. The guy who tweeted "special treatment for elite programs" is on to something here IF the original tweet is accurate.

[🏀]

this never happens. The guy who tweeted "special treatment for elite programs" is on to something here IF the original tweet is accurate.

Micah Porter is also getting a hearing, so it's not just for 'elite programs'.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Micah Porter is also getting a hearing, so it's not just for 'elite programs'.

Thought it was a phone interview.

[CountryRoads]

Apologies if this was posted but Joey was officially denied his waiver today. Is it now time to appeal the appealed decision?

[Billy Hoyle]

Apologies if this was posted but Joey was officially denied his waiver today. Is it now time to appeal the appealed decision?

you only get one appeal. At least, that's how it's supposed to work, but maybe "elite" schools get a different set of rules on this.

That said, the correct decision was made - there was no reason for Joey to get a wavier.

[swoopem]

Apologies if this was posted but Joey was officially denied his waiver today.

Good

[brewcity77]

Izzo threw a fit and resigned from the NABC Board of Directors last night because of the decision. Good lord he's such a crybaby. I can't stand Tom Izzo.

[Uncle Rico]

Izzo threw a fit and resigned from the NABC Board of Directors last night because of the decision. Good lord he's such a crybaby. I can't stand Tom Izzo.

Tom Izzo is more upset about this than any of his many players that have committed sexual assaults and his university's response to Larry Nassar.  He's a garbage human being

[tower912]

Fascinating.    I would still love to see (A) Joey's rationale for asking for it, and (B) what caused the NCAA to deny it.   

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2019/11/21/michigan-state-basketball-joey-hauser-eligibility-ncaa-appeal/4259356002/

[The Sultan]

Too bad.  Should have been granted.

[genious expert]

Fascinating.    I would still love to see (A) Joey's rationale for asking for it, and (B) what caused the NCAA to deny it.   

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2019/11/21/michigan-state-basketball-joey-hauser-eligibility-ncaa-appeal/4259356002/

Here's a guess...
(A) Why the hell not
(B) No reason to grant him one

[MU82]

Joey Who?

[Billy Hoyle]

Fascinating.    I would still love to see (A) Joey's rationale for asking for it, and (B) what caused the NCAA to deny it.   

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2019/11/21/michigan-state-basketball-joey-hauser-eligibility-ncaa-appeal/4259356002/

the waivers are only granted if the transfer was caused by mitigating circumstances.  For example, being runoff, cancelation of the scholarship, something that happened at the previous institution that led the SA to feel he/she had to leave (e.g., a female SA was the victim of a sexual assault), or the need to transfer closer to home due to a family illness or personal hardship on the part of the SA (e.g., mental health). All of this must be documented.

As far as we know, Joey did not meet any of those criteria.  Markus not passing the ball and chucking 25 times a game isn't a mitigating circumstance and getting posterized by Ja Morant in the NCAA tourney didn't lead to mental issues that would rise to the level to be granted a waiver.

And I have no idea why Izzo is leaving the NABC, they have nothing to do with the decision. Probably a sense of entitlement for an elite program.

[war1980rior]

Joey Who?

Joey "Bag of Donuts."  Some guy.

I read the quick article and at the bottom, it said his family pushed it.  Nuff said.  He probably would have rather done a request that had a better chance of going through, but from my point of view, nothing special.  Probably easy to turn down.

[Pakuni]

Izzo threw a fit and resigned from the NABC Board of Directors last night because of the decision. Good lord he's such a crybaby. I can't stand Tom Izzo.

Izzo is a baby, and his being "devastated" by this (his word) is curious in light of his response to other things that have occurred in the MSU athletic dept.
That said, he's not entirely wrong. The NCAA has been arbitrary and has lacked any semblance of transparency when deciding these things.

[Cheeks]

Izzo is losses because of the inconsistency by the NCAA on this.  He wants everyone to sit out a year is his preference and I don't blame him.  This half pregnant stuff is crap.

Friends at the NCAA have told me that once the exceptions were made, Pandora's box was ripped open.  Suddenly everyone has a sob story or reason.  Some are legit, but some are complete bullshit and take the NCAA a lot of time and resources to track down.  Unfortunately human beings abuse the system in some cases and essentially making fraudulent claims or overselling the reasons.  (Not saying Hauser did this...General statement I am making).

Everyone sits for one year, be consistent, stop the nonsense and making the Grey area where everyone bitches. 

[Galway Eagle]

the waivers are only granted if the transfer was caused by mitigating circumstances.  For example, being runoff, cancelation of the scholarship, something that happened at the previous institution that led the SA to feel he/she had to leave (e.g., a female SA was the victim of a sexual assault), or the need to transfer closer to home due to a family illness or personal hardship on the part of the SA (e.g., mental health). All of this must be documented.

As far as we know, Joey did not meet any of those criteria.  Markus not passing the ball and chucking 25 times a game isn't a mitigating circumstance and getting posterized by Ja Morant in the NCAA tourney didn't lead to mental issues that would rise to the level to be granted a waiver.

And I have no idea why Izzo is leaving the NABC, they have nothing to do with the decision. Probably a sense of entitlement for an elite program.

Is it possible for him to claim that after the letter he was "runoff" or that playing for MU lead to depression?

[Billy Hoyle]

Is it possible for him to claim that after the letter he was "runoff" or that playing for MU lead to depression?

he could, but Bill Scholl and Wojo would have to confirm that and there would have to be contemporaneous medical documentation of depression at the time.